Tales of You (Abyss Neighborhood)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DEAD

1 LordBusiness - Roleblocker with possibility of re-entry into the game
2 Mac - Paranoid Bodyguard that also rolestops target

3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha) - Janitored, scumread for me

4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK) - Bulletproof Re-incarnated god

Town (Strongest->Weakest)

:

1 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn) - Cannot be scum despite flip.
2 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dane) - There is no way Tammy as scum continues to push BRO's post and aggravates it. I want to think she's a better person than that and anything about it came genuinely because of their lack of activity in thread.
3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) - Impossible to be scum

** Would bank the game on these reads **

Null reads:
4 Breakfast With Stalin (Ffery + Beli)
5 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience)
6 Nachomamma8
7 PeregrineV
8 Cupcake Panda
9 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV)
10 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

Scum (Strongest->Weakest)

:

11 AngryPidgeon - GUARANTEED SCUM
12 Penguin_alien - VERY LIKELY SCUM

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Did Nacho just scumslip about Rancid's janitor flip (or deliberately rub it in?)

Maybe it is he who is tied to Rancid and if one of them die, they are janitored until the other dies as well.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

AngryPidgeon, Nachomamma8, Penguin_Alien, Breakfast with Stalin.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

HOLY SHIT, I just realized. AP/Nacho hydra - they decided to do this in the scum QT.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Bork is not a terribad scum player anyways. He survived a won a game with Ffery and Penguin in it as town.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Tammy is town for calling him out. She's wrong about JSU but right about Kagura and possibly Magenta but I don't know.

[pieguyn]

LOL WHAT DO I DO NOW

[pieguyn]

I wanted to drop a reads list off in thread but it was locked when I woke up. fuck my ass

3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane)
10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16)
12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado)
^all obvtown. as in it would be worldview altering if any of them ended up flipping scum

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) <- bork seemed town and posting from Nacho seems genuine and passionate
8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) <- posting where she snapped at mastin read town as fuck. I'm fine writing them off based on just that

2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) <- every time I try to see them as scum I look and DV and it calms my mind.
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) <- mostly gut

4 orcinus_theoriginal
14 Cupcake Panda
15 PeregrineV
16 Clyton

9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) <- I don't like anything he did at all recently + I feel like sheeping mastin's read

I need to figure out wtf is going on here

[pieguyn]

the fuck where'd you get nacho from

did I miss something

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

AP has to be scum. There's no ifs or buts around it. It is impossible for him to be town.

Who is the second scum? It could be Nacho. Would he really fuel all the emotions to drive a mislynch. That's not the Nacho I know and something would have had to happen to make him truly evil.

Same with Tammy. I keep fantasizing about a scumteam with Tammy but in every iteration of it, the fantasy Tammy is more evil than the Tammy I know in reality.

What about Penguin? She has to be scum. Her interactions with AP fit as scum-scum. AP's interactions with Nacho fit as scum-scum. Nacho's interactions with Orc fit as scum-scum. Did Mastin really call the scumteam entirely?

Or could we replace RG with Penguin?

AP/Nacho/Penguin/Magenta

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So, you are sure Nacho is town?

I dunno. AP and Nacho saying they would hydra in thread felt weird - like they planned it in the scum QT. But that's reaching the same level of crazy as Tammy's theory about Prohawk and Nacho in tales of vesperia so.

[pieguyn]

Nacho could be scum. but like

the way he's pushing lynches here seems genuine. if scum Nacho was pushing mislynches he'd go after low hanging fruit instead of completely blowing the thread out of the water like he did here I think

this is definitely not what I think of when I think of scum Nacho. I know he's been somewhat on tilt recently (<3) so I don't wanna be like "herp derp he led a lynch on town must be scum"

[pieguyn]

penguin is prob scum

fox and hound makes a lot of sense as 3rd scum but DV

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Yeah, that was weird as hell though, wasn't it?

I wanted Penguin to be town because she is an amazing town player but look at her play:

1) Clyton's policy lynch proposal was shit.
2) His watcher claim was weird as fuck.
3) Bodyguard + Watcher in a game seems like a lot of power.
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4) Penguin "caught up" with the game to lead a lynch on Mastin with a massive amount of conviction? It feels like she's playing to me. We sort of talked about her game and she knows that I would expect the way she pushes lynches to differ as town and scum but this seems rather overdone.
5) Did you see just how much she hedged on BRO? It was ridiculous.

I misread her first post because I wanted her to be town. I really, really did. But fuck it. She's the second scum. I am near certain about it because of the five points I listed above.

So, Pidgeon, Penguin. Who else?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

NACHO, WHO ARE THE SCUM NOW?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I almost have a weird feeling that Fox and RG could be scum together and be the remaining scum.

Or it could be Nacho and Magenta like Tammy said. Nacho could be bussing Orc. Why the fuck did he lead a lynch D1 on a D1 only governor? That makes it a hell of a co-incidence.

[pieguyn]

wait orc's governor was D1 only?

what the fuck. I need to read D2 end better cause I totally skimmed through it

[pieguyn]

ok I can't find which posts you're talking about link plz

I'm like ultra tired and only searched the last 5 pages tho

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5864372

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Two posts after that.

[pieguyn]

btw I know how people get when they get on tilt or are having an off game because the same happened to me in xenosaga. you basically take it out in the form "i'm town, you KNOW xx and yy about my play, you all must be fucking scum for not seeing that" and then from an outside POV it comes across really off and is often incorrect. so I don't wanna necessarily sheep mastin's read on Nacho here

[pieguyn]

what the actual fuck

[pieguyn]

where were the posts where Nacho supposedly slipped about RBD's janitor

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p5864659

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

btw I know how people get when they get on tilt or are having an off game because the same happened to me in xenosaga. you basically take it out in the form "i'm town, you KNOW xx and yy about my play, you all must be fucking scum for not seeing that" and then from an outside POV it comes across really off and is often incorrect. so I don't wanna necessarily sheep mastin's read on Nacho here

I dunno about Nacho. But I 100% want to sheep his read on AP. Nacho, we'll have to talk about later.

AP is scum. Penguin is scum. That much I am certain about.