Tales of You (Abyss Neighborhood)

[pieguyn]

"I agree you didn't kill him. I can see your team janitoring the flip if someone shot him since Rancid-scum's a massive inconvenience to you, and having the confidence that you can janitor the first one of you two's flip means that you're not afraid to buddy to shit like you did D1. But you're correct, you didn't kill him."

is it this or am I missing smth? I'm ultra tired atm and I don't get how this is a slip. isn't "you two" referring to rbd and mastin

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I guess "slip" is an overstatement.

I just wondered how he came to that conclusion. Actually now that I think of it, it is not conclusive at all.

I don't know. I WANT Nacho to be town and I hope he is.

But why did he completely ignore Pidgeon yesterday and tunnelfuck Mastin?

Also, Pidgeon is know to fake-claim guilties on people so his cop claim is the sort of thing that I'd expect from him as scum.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Subject: Tales of You (Day 2)

A shudder runs throughout the miasma. Bones, thought to be lost forever, rise back to the surface. Even in defeat, sword dancer had the last laugh.

The corpse of Rancid Broderick Drake, formerly veiled, is revealed to be Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker*

*A modified gladiator

FML, I fucking suck, suck, suck at this game.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DEAD

1 LordBusiness - Roleblocker with possibility of re-entry into the game
2 Mac - Paranoid Bodyguard that also rolestops target
3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha) - Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker* *A modified gladiator
4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK) - Bulletproof Re-incarnated god

Town (Strongest->Weakest)

:

1 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn) - Cannot be scum despite flip.
2 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) - Impossible to be scum
3 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dane) - I told Cabd in sitechat "If Tammy is scum, I will cry." Then I'll scream "how could you do this" as loudly as I can.

** Would bank the game on these three reads **

Null reads:
4 Breakfast With Stalin (Ffery + Beli)
5 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience)
6 Nachomamma8
7 PeregrineV
8 Cupcake Panda
9 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV)
10 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

Scum (Strongest->Weakest)

:

11 AngryPidgeon - GUARANTEED SCUM
12 Penguin_alien - VERY LIKELY SCUM

[pieguyn]

lmaoooooooo

the problem I'm having is if there's a vig and he shoots wrong tonight tomorrow ends up being MYLO on D3. but like at the same time we're in a really good spot to find and or lynch scum tomorrow since mastin is fking gone -> way less noise and adhoms

I'm going on record and saying this mastin lynch benefits town a lot anyway. it was literally impossible to get anything done with her spamming every other post

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

In some ways, I am glad Rancid flipped town. This way at least, Ffery and Mac can look at the neighborhood posting and figure out that I am a moron as opposed to an insufferable a-hole who always needs to be right. So, better this way.

[pieguyn]

this game

[pieguyn]

I'm trying to figure out if ffery could be scum because it would make so much sense if she was. atm I don't thnk she is though

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

What about Tammy, Pie?

[pieguyn]

you think scum tammy goes so far as to fake a replace out?

there were also some things that seemed like righteous indignation but I forgot exactly where they were. overall there's a lot of the genuine town Tammy emotion out there and it doesn't feel faked on a gut level

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

What do you think of Desp's accusation that she might be setting them (and possibly me) up?

She did quickhammer Mastin after waffling for days and days and days (If you are town Tammy, sorry for this crazy paranoia when you see the neighborhood at endgame).

She doesn't see what I see. In my past experience with her, it always felt like we saw eye to eye with everything. We think similarly even if our playstyles are vastly different. That's how we are able to work together. But so far, I don't even know what to say.

[pieguyn]

btw, I don't wanna put anyone down as scum bc "they're not working with me like they usually do". this game has had a really fucking taxing way of making town get pissed off at each other when they otherwise wouldn't be. I think Tammy's frustration about our neighborhood and shit seems genuine and agree with your point that it makes a lot of sense from a town model after wingate

tl;dr: my read is the same as yours minus paranoia

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

For example, look at D1 of NY169. We both suspected Maraca and were on the same page completely. Look at any other game we played together. Z-Mafia, PYP, and the older ones like Swagtown, Rarefaction II, Black Flag (although we didn't talk much in Black Flag).

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Okay. I'll trust you for now.

I feel like I could make an actual case against her and that's why it bugs me.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

If the vig shoots town tonight, we have one more mislynch before it is LYLO. If not, we have one mislynch before MYLO.

It sucks. Scum have a lot of mislynch targets as well.

And what the fuck is Tammy going after PV for. It is like I can't follow ANY of her suspicions for shit.

[pieguyn]

if scum is setting us up in any way I'd prefer to let them do it and get the fuck out of them once htey expose themselves doing it. I'm not worried about that right now

also you have to keep in mind we were pushing a theory that was ultimately wrong. I think a lot of her thoughts are coming from a town place regardless of whether I agree or not

Okay. I'll trust you for now.

I feel like I could make an actual case against her and that's why it bugs me.

holy shit really? I'd be interested in seeing it

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

You really want to see it. There are SO many things that bug me.

She's still not a priority though. AP is a hard lynch and I don't want anyone to be distracted from that. If Tammy or Penguin are town, pushing them would be such a massive fucking distraction, it would ruin the town.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DESPITE being wrong, I am more certain than ever before that AP is scum here. That should our focus tomorrow.

[pieguyn]

you know her way better than I do so if you feel like you can make a case I'd wanna see it in case I'm missing smth. idk if it'd change my read but I'd like having it up for the sake of completeness. I agree it's probably better to keep our cofus on AP tho

[pieguyn]

if AP is somehow town then this will literally be the town I've seen that has been the least effective at working together and or collaborating and I really wanna hope that's not the case

tbh I think this happens all the time when you get too many ppl in a game. the same shit happened in too many heads

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Tammy replacing out isn't alignment indicative.

She would never FAKE a replace out. But a real replace out as scum is not out of question.

Hey, can you do me a favor and see her late interactions with Generic in Too Many Heads and give me your thoughts about that.

It is not something that is unfakeable for her.

But yeah, AP should be the focus.

If scum get a mislynch today, we are fucked and he is the only one I am sure is not going to be a mislynch.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Read this post. Then click on her ISO and continue reading the next few ISO posts and talk to me about what you see: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5638170

Also, it is fantastic having you as a pseudo hydra partner when my real one flaked out btw.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5651308

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

This post as well: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5652004

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

WOW, I am an idiot. Tammy-scum doesn't make sense at all.

Magenta the great's role conflicts with Rancid, ergo scum. Nacho pushed a lynch on them D1 ergo scum. Mastin and Tammy both caught it.

AP is scum. Penguin is scum. RG and Fox are distant fifth and sixth suspects.

But seriously, it has to be AP/Penguin/Nacho/Magenta. It makes perfect sense as a scumteam.

And LOL at me saying that Rancid are insulting Tammy's and my analytical posts if Tammy's actually scum, they were right all along so meh.