Tales of You (Endgame)

[AngryPidgeon]

On a total sidenote though: If CF is scum, maybe he -can- access other neighborhoods somehow and just hasnt claimed it?

[Titan]

You are going to have to explain that one for me carefully. All I see id you and CF hamming up the thread. And CF pushing you looks rather OMGUSy at the core, regardless of his alignment.

I dont think Stalin ever called you scummy, they've had you as a moderate townread all game for the most part?

And Stalin is confirmed town, by the by.

They weren't talking about me; I misunderstood.

Yeah, I know Stalin is confirmed town. It doesn't change the fact that they've been the only touchstone I've had in this game.

[Titan]

On a total sidenote though: If CF is scum, maybe he -can- access other neighborhoods somehow and just hasnt claimed it?

That's why I asked him if he could see the neighborhoods he sets up.

[Titan]

I feel like when you were scum in attack on Titan you came after me with some bullshit reasoning for what you think I should do/get as town. You were off there and you're off here.

If you mean I shouldn't totally trust penguin, she knows I'm paranoid of her.

So then why are you having her read on me hold any water when you:

1) Don't trust her fully.

2) Know that even if she is town, her ability to read me isn't particularly strong.

I have some reason to trust her, though lol cabd game so not completely.

Because even if she's scum, she's calling you town possibly for town cred in which case you're still town. I never said it made my read change completely, I said it quelled some of my bloodthirst for your slot meaning I was coming in with an open mind.

Though wait. What did Pie flip?

[AngryPidgeon]

Also, someone is being ridiculously dead-pan about events in the thread and I think they are skyrocketing to my favorite lynch rather quickly.

I kind of expected someone to bite on this or at least play 20 questions with me.

Buuuuut no one has, so I'll say that these posts have stuck out like a sore thumb:

Hi

Team

Was Yggdra actually a scum nightkill?

i want to do a flavor mass claim

Its like Magenta became a robot over the night phase.

Did anybody use a robot-izer on Magenta or are they just scum?

[Titan]

Your pushes this whole game have been absolute shit Tammy. (And yes Mastin, Muffin, Nati I know this applies to me as well)

I posted a long ass wall explaining to you why BRO and Desp were town. You ignored it completely and continuous pushed them even though their alignment is obvious as fuck to anyone with two brain cells.

You kept pushing PV because he used old meta on you. Bullshit. You didn't stop for one second to consider why the fuck scum-PV would even bother pushing you.

You pushed Pie when he was the towniest he has ever been in his entire life of playing mafia.

Now you are voting me and the way you are attacking me still feels like you are not even trying to figure me out but just trying to justify your push and make yourself look good.

You "lean town" on Penguin which is absolute bullshit. Penguin has been scum, scum, scum. I analyzed her posts in the neihghborhood. Her push on Mastin was fake. Her role is not fucking town. There is not a bodyguard, bulletproof, commuter, and watcher in the same game. Her role if fake. Her push is fake. Her interactions with me fit scum-Penguin to a T.

You ignored her, you claim you can't get a read on AP. And you tunnel PV? and BRO-Desp and me? You are a better player than this as town.

I didn't ignore it. I read it. I worried you were being manipulated but didn't want to push it. I also worried you were scum doing the same thing for Bro as you did for Penguin in Wicked. I chose to try not to get overly paranoid about it. You have no understanding of my scum game if you think I, as scum, would ignore something like that. I, as town, get paranoid. I, as town, set things aside until I can make sense of them. I, as town, don't always address everything in thread.

PV's use of old meta when he had a perfectly good recent game to look at was and is bullshit. I didn't keep pushing PV, in fact, I even pointed out a reason I thought he was town. Did you ignore that?

Part of my read on Penguin comes from ffery declaring her town when she replaced in. I'm paranoid of Penguin and she knows I am. She's not a watcher though. What makes you think I'd recognize scum!Penguin anyway?

I ignored who? I don't know what to think about AP. Do you know how to get a clear read on AP? I don't. I didn't tunnel PV. I haven't tunneled anyone this damn game because I've been so freaking lost I don't know what's going on. I have one read I feel good about ONE. And that ONE just got confirmed so yay me the one thing I felt good about was right. I'm AWESOME!

But thank you very much for trashing my town game. I may not be on point this game but I couldn't be more town. I am trying to figure you out but it's kinda difficult when you're declaring a very town me is SCUMOHIKNEWITKNEWITKNEWITKNEWIT WHEN I'M FUCKING NOT.

[Titan]

UNVOTE:

I'm going to step away from this argument. I kinda don't think a scum!falcon would trash me the way he has.

[Titan]

But then I gave desperado a pass in the Reckoning for tunneling on mollie when I didn't think he'd do that.

But, I don't know if he'd actually say some of those things if he were scum. IDK

[Katsuki]

WTF WHATS WITH ALL THESE PAGES I THOUGHT DAY JUST STARTED

ON A SIDE NOTE

THERE WILL BE BLOOD ONCE I LOG IN PROPERLY (AKA WHEN I GET OFF WORK)
SOMEONE SCUM IS DYING

[Titan]

Penguins pretty much going to bat for bro being town, depending on how he plays it today I guess, but she's talking me down fro
M my des/bro bloodthirst so it's up t you boys. Do something!

BRO - I'd like you to address this and then the crap you pulled on me. I clearly said she's going to bat for you and talking me down, and then I say it's up to you do something. Which clearly should mean that I was trying to have an open mind with regards to you.

[Titan]

I KNEW IT. YOU WERE SETTING ME UP WITH MASTIN BEIONG TIWN OI CANT PTYUEPOE ATGF AT FTYPE PROPERLYT

How was I setting you up for Mastin being town again?

Also are you really calling me scum because I didn't rush in here and ask if you're all right? Didn't Pie use this accusation against Mastin already. He didn't appropriately respond to Bro's meltdown and therefore was scum.

Also, in the next post you repeatedly say "fuck you". You should go read the Reckoning and see how well I respond to people going fuck you when I haven't even done anything. I'm pretty sure that when mollie said she needed a break because of something, I told her fat chance for the way she'd talked to me, so yeah.

[Titan]

I want to explain why Titan is scum but I don;t hgave it in me. I can't do it. I thought I coulsd calm down in a bit but my heart is racing. I am in a computer lab right now eagerly awaitun for the game to start.

I talked in the neighborhood about how I thought the scum was PA/AP/NAcho/Tammy.

I told Nacho to bring it. I told him to tell Tammy in the scum QT to attack me (As a jkoke). I did not expect that at all. I reeally didn't

I messed shit up this game so badly. I let TAmy set me up forgfettng lynched after pushing so hard on Mastin and Rancid.

Mffin is probably laighing in the scum QT.

Nati as well. They warned me over and over not to collaborate with Tammy so mucj,.

I just went to restroom and tried to calm down and think of all the things why I thought Titan was scum but my mingf id blank I can't thing ruight now.

You are literally going from Tammy is my A+ town read will throw my laptop out the window if I'm wrong to I'm scum over night and you can't for one second understand that I might be paranoid about you when I've been talking about me being paranoid about you. You even responded to ffery yesterday that I had reason to not call you 100% town, so I really don't get this at all.

You think that Nacho told me to attack you in our scum qt and I did. Are you serious?

Like this doesn't even make sense and doesn't even flow with how I play scum. If you're mind is a blank on why i'm scum it's probably because I'm not.

[Titan]

Pere told you?

Penguin told me. I mistyped.

[Titan]

I KNEW YOU WERE SCUM AND I WAS TELLING EVERYONE IN THGE NEUIGHTBORHOOS ABOYUT UT

I told Nacho he was scum with yo.

This is fucking bullshit by the way.

And I do believe you'd set me up. I watched what you did to Mina in wicked. a REMEMBER?

You also watched him experiencing a ton of trepidation and me being like "it's okay, she's not actually that town"? Why do you think all of his meta cases landed on him not being sure about her alignment?

But he pushed her, mocked her and attacked her playstyle.

[AngryPidgeon]

I feel like I'm at a costume party without a costume.

[Titan]

He said maybe we were scum together and we were going to blow our cover and mislynch him today

Yes yes because I typically try to lynch people who call me A+ town their strongest town read when I'm scum. Right Right. And I also decide to do exactly what something thinks I'm going to do because I'm crafty.

FEAR ME RAWR!!!

[magenta_thegreat]

Ugh

never getting caught up. Ever

[Titan]

I can't imagine how happy zMuffin and Nati are to see this. I feel so sorry and feel like crap for pushing them.

I can't imagine they're actually happy to see the town driving themselves into a hole because people are making irrational pushes. I'm sure pie's pissed that you're making an irrational push on Tammy and Tammy's making an irrational push on you. I'm sure Mastin isn't happy that you're repeating old mistakes. I'm sure even LORD BUSINESS doesn't want to see this happening for the third day in a row.

NO, they are happy because they wanted to see me punished in some way for pushing the crap out of them. They don't want town to win anymore because of me.

I know they were right all along. Nati called Tammy scum. Muffin called AP scum.

I KNEW Tammy was scum all along at some deep level and was partly kidding myself into townreading her because I didn't want to scumread anyone I like playing with. I never want to scumread you, and I never want to scumread Tammy.

Like this was the first game ever that I came into the game being unsure of Tammy as opposed to calling her obvtown. That's when I should have known. That was the differentiator between her town and scum games.

I spent HOURS reading every page of Stacking the Deck front to back and back to front. I read every word she wrote in the game. I didn't even ISO. I read it in context.

I watched as you took Syr down and how she went on to win the game. Her scumgame parallels yours and is truly spectacular to watch.

I'm pretty damn town though and was from the start? You say you KNEW I was scum all along but then in an earlier post you say that us misreading each other is a scum claim.

Are you sure you want to stand by me being scum?

Thank you for the compliment on my scum game. I don't think it's spectacular at all, but I appreciate it. But, if you have paid attention to my scum game, you should see that when I'm at my best I'm actually trying to get town cred. A scum me would have loved to keep Mastin around. A scum me would have had a solid read on that. You only have to look at Red Wedding to see how a scum me championed Metal Sonic against my partner Generic. The noise was delicious, I took a side, and tried to get my partner lynched in the process because I would have had metal sonic on my side and would have looked good while doing it. That's how I treat noise and a volatile situation as scum. Maybe I wouldn't always bus my partner, but it would be easy to take a stand instead of waffle about the player for 200 fucking pages. And since town reads are what typically come easiest to me it wouldn't even be out of the ordinary for me to town read him. And I mean geeze how you can't see I was conflicted about his and rancid's alignment is just astounding.

[magenta_thegreat]

I want everyone to claim child/adult

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Why do you want that?

[magenta_thegreat]

Because [redacted]

[Breakfast With Sandy]

and you think the info couldn't possibly benefit scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

That's probably the point tbh.

[magenta_thegreat]

Not really, no. The reason is largely selfish, but I've no doubt there are townspeople with age limitations to their PR's. Also assuming all the scum have age limitations to their roles, they already have at most, 8 people in this game who they know are adult/child while those who are town have at most, two

[Titan]

I'm not the running around calling Cassandra on him.

Is it wrong I'm feeling slightly amused that someone is declaring KNOWLEDGE I'm scum when I'm as town as I've ever been.

I mean for someone so attuned to my meta, it seems extraordinarily unlikely I'd get paranoid about someone over night. Shit how many times have I paranoid voted someone, then talked it out. For someone who knows I get paranoid?

Point out a game where you non-RVS voted me ever before?

I don't know if I've ever nonRVS voted you before, but I'm not sure why that matters. I've non RVS voted Tierce before. I've non RVS voted Empire before, I think. I've non RVS voted people at Westeros on paranoia, one I can read better than anyone I can read on this site. In Tales of Vesperia, I literally double checked with cabd a couple times during the game that my mod-confirmed mason partner was definitely confirmed to me and it wasn't a secretly bastard game.

OH MY GODS did you read the dead thread of Pick Your Poison where I worried you were scum. Sure, fine, I'm usually able to contain some of my paranoia but not always.

You knew that I was worried about you before the day started. I didn't make a case against you or call out the pitchforks. You got my back up with something I didn't expect from you.