Tales of You (Dead zone)

[zMuffinMan]

omg

F16 pulled up 1216

[zMuffinMan]

that post came before xenosaga ended but i was actually using cephrir's play in xenosaga to influence my read here

/ongoing-game-meta-but-not-admitting-it

[pieguyn]

we should totally hydra

I'd love to finally play a game for once where I don't get paranoid as fuck about you and have to figure you out and end up scumreading you as town

I'm still so butthurt that mastin killed me N2 the only time I ever had a strong townread on you =.=

maybe!

but it's easy to tell when i'm town! see flowchart i created: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5705332

rofl

as much as I'd love to follow that it keeps failing me

[pieguyn]

latest guess
AP/JSU/2 of {PV, penguin_alien, fox and hound}
I still can't figure out which so I'll leave it at that

[pieguyn]

I would have been damn sure of Nacho town the whole game if it weren't for the possibility that he was specifically targeting me a la Mara, Sakura in NY169

IME I've never had scum do that before. nor would I care for it

[zMuffinMan]

i think i've only ever played against nacho-scum once and he killed me off when i started putting effort into the game and had him as scum :<

[zMuffinMan]

ive also only played scum against nacho twice? maybe. once in a multiscum game where i got killed off N1 and then gif's touhou game

hmm

we're the same alignment a lot

[zMuffinMan]

i think i've been the same alignment as you twice or something pieguy, and never scum with you

[pieguyn]

oh right I forgot F-16 did that to me in AOT and it worked lolol. but fortunately it didn't have much of an effect considering he got himself replaced and everyone had him/mastin as scum anyway (plus mastin went and killed me N2 even though my reads were all wrong)

I've played against Nacho scum I think 3 times now and you were scum with him every single time. I think I've read him right in every game so far 0.0

don't get any ideas

[zMuffinMan]

wait no 3 times if FEA is included i think. aot, xenosaga and FEA

other than that i've been scum against you or you've been scum against me in every game

[pieguyn]

we've had 7 games and you were scum against me in 4 of them. What the actual fuck

I was scum vs. you in touhou upick and we were both town in AOT and xenosaga

we were both town in FEA but I keep forgetting about that bc the game ended right after I replaced in \o/

[pieguyn]

also I have a notorious history of rolling scum with ppl I know

one day we'll both roll scum and I'll try my hardest to actually get motivated as scum for once

[zMuffinMan]

i think i measured my scum role PM rate at some point at like over 40% (this was during 169)

i roll scum a ridiculously large amount of times but small sample size (i think 20-25) so *shrug*

[pieguyn]

actually scratch that I'll just let you bus the shit out of me

also I've had 3 scumgames:

fast and furious - I was just coming off a game where I hammered Grimgroove as town in 5p LYLO for the loss. we rolled scum with each other and ended up winning and earning our redemption :>

touhou upick - I know both GIF and dakedekaane (the other scum)

viscon crossroads - I rolled scum with Brian Skies. he and I have played together a lot

[pieguyn]

so in every single game, if I roll scum, it's with someone I know in some way

that can only mean we'll both roll scum the next game we play with each other o-o

[zMuffinMan]

since i started playing again i've been scum/3rd party in:

death's diner
LOTR
Marketplace III
Imperishable Night (1515)
Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy
Open519
Open525
NY169

and town in:

Touhou Upick
Cash Cabd (1496)
Fruit Basket (1486)
N's Large
Xenogears
NY166
FEA
Viscon (1523)
AOT (1537)
Natirasha's On Parole (1543)
Paranoia (1552)
Open511 <- was abandoned by mod
Open526
Open541
Xenosaga

so only 8/22 atm which is less than i thought (only 36%)

it's gone down recently due to a few town games (like paranoia, nati's game, RBD games and xenosaga)

hopefully it levels out at some point and goes below expected values

[zMuffinMan]

i think on D1 of GIF's touhou game mollie said i looked like scum who was sick of rolling scum role PMs

which was kinda true

i think my rate at that point was close to 45%

i was literally antitown in almost half my games

[zMuffinMan]

it reminds me of me when I have gotten just 1 too many scum role pms in a row and am fatigued. <--- that is how he is acting

this one

[pieguyn]

I just realized how few games I actually play. I only have like 15 completed games or so

I'm only in like a few games atm and I probably can't play many more for the next month or 2 or so

btw I still haven't got over IN. I tried to look in there to study the role PM format for the mini theme I'm doing and I literally started having what I think was a mild case of PTSD. I'm not even making this up

[pieguyn]

I just wanna forget that entire game ever happened

I was on vacation for most of it and had no time/motivation for mafia. so I ended up getting really lazy ._.

I feel so bad for Katarina and bubbajack8. both of them played p strong games but no one listened to them

[zMuffinMan]

that is the story of a lot of games that end up in mafia wins

it's pretty rare for a scum team to completely dominate a large game

[zMuffinMan]

i think the closest i've ever come to having a game that could be regarded as complete domination by mafia was marketplace III where i mean some people were right in *some* aspects of the game but most people were so far off it wasn't funny

i mean the one scum lynch that happened that game was a mercy lynch, and then the other scum lynch that was going to happen was governed twice lololol

[zMuffinMan]

a mercy bus*

because nacho was like "FUCK IT, BUS TIME"

but other than that most scum lists included a couple scum but were way off for most of it (which i guess is to be expected when 2 scum are in the agreed upon 6 most town-looking players, and the 2 most town-looking players outside of that were scum

[pieguyn]

that game was a nightmare

I felt like I was wandering around in circles the whole time and right when I got close to doing anything I just got lost again

I almost managed to do smth D5 of that game though. like that was probably the closest anyone got to doing anything that game and I'm at least somewhat proud of it. also I read your scum QT from that game and I feel like I broke inside

[Natirasha]

That game was mechanically broken in scum favor though. Magua needed to consider psychological factors to the game.

Also governor is an abomination.