Tales of You (Endgame)

[Nachomamma8]

They are curently sitting in the lolcabdgame bin.

This isn't an excuse.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Though IMO I took plenty of public stands on players despite having mush at the bottom of my PoE list.

and unfortunately most of those stances were in direct opposition to mine so i didn't want to hear it

Are we aligning better now?

[Nachomamma8]

As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"

[Nachomamma8]

But BOTH flipping town and telling us to get AP dead? That only increased my suspicion rather than throw me off.

It increased YOUR suspicion.
And also the suspicion of your last major scumread.
Which you're holding onto despite of everything pointing to a different conclusion because "lolcabdgame".

[Just Sheep Us]

Are we aligning better now?

yes. is magenta really beli's top town?

[CarbonFiber]

As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"

But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town. That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"

[Titan]

Also, my point is after two wait three games where you were scum and I had you as town at certain points, and then you're in here behaving very similarly to your scum games, and saying you're behaving that way in the neighborhood, why wouldn't you recognize why I would be suspicious of you? Why is it oh she's setting me up? Why isn't it oh I'm behaving similarly to my scum game she's probably picking up those vibes?

because i had my head stuck in the sand

Bah this sounds town

Maybe I did too.

[Just Sheep Us]

@ falcon: do you even know ap

[Nachomamma8]

As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"

But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town.

That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"

"But it's a really strong read!"

[Just Sheep Us]

ap
stalin
falcon
nacho
titan
peregrinev

i really believe that if the 6 of us realize that we're all town this game is solved

[Nachomamma8]

[PeregrineV]

Then it seems Nacho should really claim at this point if he hasn't already.

Why, exactly?

According to Tammy, you can be roleblocked.

According to AP, he targeted you night1 and failed.

According to Stalin, he went no where night1.

According to you, you understand why he failed.

Let's start with these reasons.

None of this adds up to a reason why I should claim.

This is true. Maybe you could explain, like Stalin, why it in not in the Town's best interest for you to claim.

[Just Sheep Us]

7* #slip

[Titan]

I think it's stupid to go "oh, Katsuki wouldn't fakeclaim like this" when you have DesBro OR AP needing to be liars in order to call Katsuki town and one of those possibilities is out of play due to being extremely town and the other possibility is out of play because of a clear (that's not just a cop clear or a no result = town) and having night actions corroborated by two separate people on two separate occasions.

I'm not stupid

Just extra cautious.

And a little crazy.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Are we aligning better now?

yes. is magenta really beli's top town?

I don't know if he's top of Beli's list, but Beli feels very strongly that the role has to be town despite cabd game paranoia.

My townread is based on how he used the role.

[CarbonFiber]

@ Tammy, still want to hear what those niggles on your meta are about.

[CarbonFiber]

As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"

But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town.

That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"

"But it's a really strong read!"

But it is so unlikely Mastin was wrong.

[AngryPidgeon]

Desperado, why are you townreading F16? I'm willing to listen. I mean I know I'm based on this but I just can't believe someone is capable of being this hypocritical and self assured. Plus the emotion at the beginning of today was sso out of place.

Phone post

[Titan]

@ Tammy, still want to hear what those niggles on your meta are about.

Oh I don't want to tell you.

>_<

>_>

<_<

You got the tonal things right though! And that there are things I wouldn't have said as scum!

@ Tammy, still want to hear what those niggles on your meta are about.

[AngryPidgeon]

Stop using mastin as a crutch. She even admitted to not having an actual reason for her read on me.

[Just Sheep Us]

I don't know if he's top of Beli's list, but Beli feels very strongly that the role has to be town despite cabd game paranoia.

does beli feel strongly that multiple gladiating roles must be town?

i think at the time his choice for the cagefight seemed ok but i thought business was town before and i think there were better choices. or he could have just put up two scummy people like us and rancid and let that resolve itself d1 rather than festering over into d2.

[PeregrineV]

As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"

But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town.

That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"

"But it's a really strong read!"

But it is so unlikely Mastin was wrong.

Mastin was town.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

ap
stalin
falcon
nacho
titan
peregrinev

i really believe that if the 6 of us realize that we're all town this game is solved

I can roll with this for now.

[Nachomamma8]

This is true. Maybe you could explain, like Stalin, why it in not in the Town's best interest for you to claim.

I can explain a few possibilities for our role.

1) Triggered Untargetable: Nonkilling roles target us, we become untargetable by any other actions.
2) Commuter (limited or full)
3) Ascetic
4) One-Shot Commuter, other goodies elsewhere

All of these mean that scum have to deal with our role differently. It's obviously useless for them to burn rolecop/roleblocker on me if I'm a full commuter or Ascetic, might be a consideration for a kill based on other goodies, etc. etc. etc.

[Just Sheep Us]

Desperado, why are you townreading F16? I'm willing to listen. I mean I know I'm based on this but I just can't believe someone is capable of being this hypocritical and self assured. Plus the emotion at the beginning of today was sso out of place.

if you have time read big brother and don't spoil yourself. then come back at lylo and tell us who you would put up for eviction.

falcon has been insanely transparent all game in thread and in the neighborhood and the way he claimed miller was really town (mostly a bro point)