I felt like God gave me the sincerest hug God could ever give a mere mortal when I saw Desperado's reads list.In post 5895, CarbonFiber wrote:WANT NACHO READS LIST NOW
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This is where I am at today. I'm willing to put all of that group off the table. And I'm going to also put magenta off the table because that's one of our bet the farm reads. And I'm going to look at the other 5 and figure out which ones I am willing to lynch today.In post 5899, AngryPidgeon wrote:Convince me? Seriously, convince me. Stalin is confirmed. PV is claiming vig so he gets a get out of lynch free card for the time being. Titan I buy. Falcon I really really need to be sold on. Nacho I really want to believe is town because everything hes saying matches my feelings, but I dont feel amazing about writing him off just yet.
I'll start over on day 4 if I'm around for it.
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Is this Beli or Ffery? I thought ffery had doubts about more than one person in that list.In post 5872, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
I can roll with this for now.In post 5859, Just Sheep Us wrote:i really believe that if the 6 of us realize that we're all town this game is solved
Wait, are you reading MAgenta as town over their D1 role usage mostly? Because, if so, these points aren't really passing QA.In post 5879, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:He could have put two nulls null/scum in the ring but part of his reason for doing it the way he did was that he thought he'd be able to discuss stuff with the players he gladiated during the cagematch. He stated as much beforehand.
Magenta put you up as a lynchbecause he thought he could talk to you. Uhhh. Given that he was lurking hardcore D1, I tend to find the town motivation in him wanting to talk to you during the match to be kind of...not apparent? Also its 100% plausible that scum lied about understanding this part of the role. I find it a little weird that he could misunderstand something that should be obvious in his role PM..or not bother to confirm with the mod at all before chanting "ramming speed!!" and putting a strong townread of his into a gladiate situation.
Wait wait wait.In post 5880, PeregrineV wrote:If JustSheep is confirming AP targeted Breakfast, and Breakfast is confirmed non-Replica and confirmed message sending whatever, then unless scum is AP/Carbon/JSU/Breakfast , they are all town.
How did you get that Carbon is town out of this? All he did is claim the Amnesiac Follower result (nothing). Why does that make him town via role speculation?
Ok, well your "gosh I wish the townblock would just realize its all town" would be a lot more sincere if you would actually put one iota of effort forward for selling me CF-town.In post 5888, Just Sheep Us wrote:/shrug, i didn't say it would be earth shattering. i don't think f-16 is capable of playing the way he's played as scum.- CarbonFiber
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I still don't see you calling anyone scum or giving any reasons why they are. For instance, why is Fox, or RG scum? You say Cupcake is scum and you seem to think Magenta is scum as well. With Penguin a potential fifth suspect if one of your scumreads are wrong.In post 5901, Nachomamma8 wrote:I felt like if Desperado's reads list was a woman (or a man), I would leave the life I have completely and elope with it.- AngryPidgeon
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I would probably swap Nacho for Penguin.In post 5902, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Who would you add to that list today? What strong town read of yours is missing?- CarbonFiber
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I don't think we're going to lynch anyone other than Cupcake or AP today. Why would we?In post 5902, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
This is where I am at today. I'm willing to put all of that group off the table. And I'm going to also put magenta off the table because that's one of our bet the farm reads. And I'm going to look at the other 5 and figure out which ones I am willing to lynch today.In post 5899, AngryPidgeon wrote:Convince me? Seriously, convince me. Stalin is confirmed. PV is claiming vig so he gets a get out of lynch free card for the time being. Titan I buy. Falcon I really really need to be sold on. Nacho I really want to believe is town because everything hes saying matches my feelings, but I dont feel amazing about writing him off just yet.
I'll start over on day 4 if I'm around for it.
Who would you add to that list today? What strong town read of yours is missing?
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Lack of towniness.In post 5905, CarbonFiber wrote:
I still don't see you calling anyone scum or giving any reasons why they are. For instance, why is Fox, or RG scum? You say Cupcake is scum and you seem to think Magenta is scum as well. With Penguin a potential fifth suspect if one of your scumreads are wrong.In post 5901, Nachomamma8 wrote:I felt like if Desperado's reads list was a woman (or a man), I would leave the life I have completely and elope with it."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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And obviously I dont really trust CF, buuuuuut hes practically unlynchable atm so I dunno. I feel like Im just being a voice lost in the wind about him.In post 5906, AngryPidgeon wrote:
I would probably swap Nacho for Penguin.In post 5902, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Who would you add to that list today? What strong town read of yours is missing?- The Fox and the Hound
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I've never known you to be this non-careful about reading me.In post 5909, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Lack of towniness.In post 5905, CarbonFiber wrote:
I still don't see you calling anyone scum or giving any reasons why they are. For instance, why is Fox, or RG scum? You say Cupcake is scum and you seem to think Magenta is scum as well. With Penguin a potential fifth suspect if one of your scumreads are wrong.In post 5901, Nachomamma8 wrote:I felt like if Desperado's reads list was a woman (or a man), I would leave the life I have completely and elope with it.- CarbonFiber
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In post 5908, Nachomamma8 wrote:We're not lynching AP today, sorry Falcon.
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I get that we probably won't lynch him over Cupcake considering Desp-BRO seemingly confirming him.
I am talking more about the fact that no one besides AP/Cupcake is going to be lynched today - at all. I find it unlikely this day will end in anything other than Cupcake being lynched.- AngryPidgeon
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"I dont see you calling anyone scum"In post 5905, CarbonFiber wrote:I still don't see you calling anyone scum or giving any reasons why they are. For instance, why is Fox, or RG scum? You say Cupcake is scum and you seem to think Magenta is scum as well. With Penguin a potential fifth suspect if one of your scumreads are wrong.
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It's also not a lack of caution: you're getting POE'd out pretty strongly at this point of time. If you haven't seen that happen to people before, well."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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If you truly believe this, then for the love of god, why are you spending so much effort making connection cases to me on Nacho, PA, Fox(, did I miss one?). Why are you spending so much effort posing hypotheticals on something that is going to end up obvious shortly. You've spent as much time talking about Penguin and trying to rolefish her today than actually talking about Panda other than "I dont see the scum motivation for Kats faking this guilty" and "I dont see the scum motivation for AP faking this innocent result"In post 5907, CarbonFiber wrote:I don't think we're going to lynch anyone other than Cupcake or AP today. Why would we?- Breakfast With Sandy
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This is ffery. Key phrase has been bolded. There's only one player in that list who is below my maybe-town line and that is mostly paranoia based and the read has been on the rise of late. I haveIn post 5904, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Is this Beli or Ffery? I thought ffery had doubts about more than one person in that list.In post 5872, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
I can roll with thisIn post 5859, Just Sheep Us wrote:i really believe that if the 6 of us realize that we're all town this game is solved
for now.doubtsabout every player on the list. I have stronger doubts about every player NOT on the list with one exception.
Partly. And partly due to a gut reaction to the way orcinus asked me if I would be ok with being one of the gladiate-ees. Once in a while I get a <handclasp level of offered trust> sense from a post, just a really strong sense that we're on the same team. Doesn't happen often.
Wait, are you reading MAgenta as town over their D1 role usage mostly? Because, if so, these points aren't really passing QA.In post 5879, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:He could have put two nulls null/scum in the ring but part of his reason for doing it the way he did was that he thought he'd be able to discuss stuff with the players he gladiated during the cagematch. He stated as much beforehand.
That's great and all. I'm not expecting you or anyone else to townread orcinus because I am or for the reasons I am.Magenta put you up as a lynchbecause he thought he could talk to you. Uhhh. Given that he was lurking hardcore D1, I tend to find the town motivation in him wanting to talk to you during the match to be kind of...not apparent? Also its 100% plausible that scum lied about understanding this part of the role. I find it a little weird that he could misunderstand something that should be obvious in his role PM..or not bother to confirm with the mod at all before chanting "ramming speed!!" and putting a strong townread of his into a gladiate situation.Hydra of fferylt and Belisarius; clever signature line to be decided laterUser formerly known as Sc*mf*ck.- CarbonFiber
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I am trying to figure out Penguin's alignment as well as yours and Kats. If I find anything groundbreaking, sure the direction of the day will change.In post 5917, AngryPidgeon wrote:
If you truly believe this, then for the love of god, why are you spending so much effort making connection cases to me on Nacho, PA, Fox(, did I miss one?). Why are you spending so much effort posing hypotheticals on something that is going to end up obvious shortly. You've spent as much time talking about Penguin and trying to rolefish her today than actually talking about Panda other than "I dont see the scum motivation for Kats faking this guilty" and "I dont see the scum motivation for AP faking this innocent result"In post 5907, CarbonFiber wrote:I don't think we're going to lynch anyone other than Cupcake or AP today. Why would we?
I was just curious about Ffery pulling up a POE list and trying to figure out who to lynch when that question of who to lynch has already been decided.
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welcome to feryland. I can contemplate the possibility that they are both town. It's notIn post 5907, CarbonFiber wrote:
I don't think we're going to lynch anyone other than Cupcake or AP today. Why would we?In post 5902, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
This is where I am at today. I'm willing to put all of that group off the table. And I'm going to also put magenta off the table because that's one of our bet the farm reads. And I'm going to look at the other 5 and figure out which ones I am willing to lynch today.In post 5899, AngryPidgeon wrote:Convince me? Seriously, convince me. Stalin is confirmed. PV is claiming vig so he gets a get out of lynch free card for the time being. Titan I buy. Falcon I really really need to be sold on. Nacho I really want to believe is town because everything hes saying matches my feelings, but I dont feel amazing about writing him off just yet.
I'll start over on day 4 if I'm around for it.
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And this is something you need to resolve if you are going to keep posturing about my scumcard in literally every post and case you make.In post 5912, CarbonFiber wrote:Desp-BRO seemingly confirming him.
DespBRO did not SEEMINGLY confirm me. Its not like "Oh Ya we can confirm that AP visited Stalin". Its not "Ya we followed AP and he used an investigative role"
The are ACTUALLY confirming me as town in their claim. Its not even like "we got a not-replica on AP, he could be a GF". Its even deeper because they are claiming that their role FAILS on replicas. Like. I dont know, maybe since Ive never been in a Cabd game before I dont understand the paranoia of some bizarre gamebreakingly godlike scum role existing, but REALLY. From my perspective, I just read the posts trying to speculate on how I could be scum despite all the neon signs around me indicating that I am town and that my night actions 100% match what everyone would expect.
Yet you just kinda ignore all that and paint an absurd role on me that could maybe justify like several different things indicating that Im town to match what your agenda of pushing me as scum and making endless connection cases on other people to me despite me being confirmed town by someone who you are SUPER CONFIDENT about being town. I just..."seemingly? SEEMINGLY? Get out.- CarbonFiber
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Bolded is the problem. Cabd had a GF type role that could choose what results it wants to give out to investigators.In post 5921, AngryPidgeon wrote:
And this is something you need to resolve if you are going to keep posturing about my scumcard in literally every post and case you make.In post 5912, CarbonFiber wrote:Desp-BRO seemingly confirming him.
DespBRO did not SEEMINGLY confirm me. Its not like "Oh Ya we can confirm that AP visited Stalin". Its not "Ya we followed AP and he used an investigative role"
The are ACTUALLY confirming me as town in their claim. Its not even like "we got a not-replica on AP, he could be a GF". Its even deeper because they are claiming that their role FAILS on replicas. Like. I dont know, maybe sinceIve never been in a Cabd game beforeI dont understand the paranoia of some bizarre gamebreakingly godlike scum role existing, but REALLY. From my perspective, I just read the posts trying to speculate on how I could be scum despite all the neon signs around me indicating that I am town and that my night actions 100% match what everyone would expect.
Yet you just kinda ignore all that and paint an absurd role on me that could maybe justify like several different things indicating that Im town to match what your agenda of pushing me as scum and making endless connection cases on other people to me despite me being confirmed town by someone who you are SUPER CONFIDENT about being town. I just..."seemingly? SEEMINGLY? Get out.- AngryPidgeon
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What is there to be found out? You have been talking about how people are scum with me all day Today and making cases on people. You even just acknowledged that Panda/AP is a dichotomy Today that is getting resolved. What possible revelations are there going to be to steer the direction elsewhere today? Everyone is already tripping over themselves to massclaim today which is +1 point to AP for predicting that drawing the Day out would only be anti-town.In post 5919, CarbonFiber wrote:If I find anything groundbreaking, sure the direction of the day will change.- Katsuki
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