Alright.
Cupcake is pretty much on any scumteam I can fathom at this time. If they are town, then they must have been blocked last night. That means that there are 3 roleblocks (at least 2 being anti-town) in the game (or 2 roleblocks (antitown ones) and RG is just a lying scumfuck). Stalin was almost definitely roleblocked by scum. For the record, Im going off of the assumption that nobody's role failed for the hell of it against their knowledge. Multiple people have reported KNOWING that their role interacts oddly with certain types of flavor, so I believe that if RG or Stalin had role-related reasons for their failure contained in their own roles, we would know about it. THAT SAID, there must be 3 roleblocks in the game (or 2 and RG is lying about being blocked). If cupcake is somehow actually town (and not fakeclaiming) here then I think Rg is basically conf-scum. Katsuki and Stalin would have to both be scum roleblocks on N2 and unless someone wants to claim that they blocked RG as town..
RG could easily be scum regardless though. I want to elaborate a little but but ~nope~ in one department. But Brian has felt pretty damn disjoint from this and I do sympathize with him for his hydra buddy flaking (*shakes fist in a non-suggestive manner*) but his content has felt largely uninspired this game. I can't honestly remember a singular thing he has done that looks like scumhunting to me or anything townmotivated in general really. I see him popping in at semi regular intervals to buddy up to people sentiments about mastin posting too much by QQing about it, and asking a bunch of questions that he never really follows up on or seems genuinely vested in pursuing. I've seen Brian as town and I know he tends to quote-strip in this fashion, but Ive been able to track his interest in his towngames even if its taken me a while to see it. I just dont see anything from him here that looks like compelling. I realize that not beiung vested in the game is not a scumtell on its own, but everything he has done just looks like hes faking interest as he goes if that makes sense.
I think Im seeing Cupcake/RG as plausible on damn near any hypothetical team in my head.
....So..moving forward.
PV.......PV??? WTF PV.
You never answered my question about the RBD flip. You claim that you wanted to wait and see RBDs flip before shooting. Why? the game is in evens right now, a vig shot is WORTH to take to bring the game back to odds. Even if you dont hit right, shooting someone that is on everyone's shortlist is probably a good play. And RBD -DID- flip before the end of N2, so did you just not see the flip before the end of the night phase? I find that slightly hard to believe. And if you knew the flip was coming on that night anyways (which you've implied), why would you hold off on shooting anyways? How would your reads have changed notably that not shooting was the correct play? And of course now PV has claimed Vig and will likely not actually shoot anybody else for the rest of the game. If there really are 9001 roleblocks flying around, I expect one of them to be parked on PV for the rest of the game if hes town. Basically your roleclaim looks town on the surface...but thats just it. Im leaning a little closer and smelling the flowers, but they dont really smell like flowers that want to win with the town.
On top of that, I dont see why you dont want to lynch Panda today. Are they an extremely strong townread for you? Do you think somebody is setting them up or this entire situation up - who? Are you going to ignore the elephant in the room for the rest of the game? Further, you writing Tammy off as town because 'all the cool kids are doing it' doesn't really sit well with me with respect to your trajectory this game and it I can easily see that being an opportunistic scum decision to try and reintegrate with the townblock at this point. Which seems to be the only thing your roleclaim seriously accomplished.
Panda/RG/PV/(CF.....Fox/Nacho?) - Plausible. I could see PV trying to steer the lynch away from the Panda and into the pool of people that are mislynches in this case. In particular, the "I wanna lynch Magenta" makes me think Pv/Magenta are not on the same team. I could see a few people in that last slot. foxhound is possible, maybe Nacho. I sort of expect at least SOMEONE is bussing cupcake right now and JSU seems like the least likely to be doing it*. Not ruling that out.
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Mmmm. If my paranoia about PV is actually totally unjustified. I can see some similar variant of that with CF on and probably one of Nacho/Fox still. Panda/RG/CF/{Nacho/Fox}. I kind of want to hear more about RG from Cf and vice-versa. I can't really recall much of what they've said about each other. IIRC RG is on CF's shortlist, but as far as actual content on RG goes, CF has been quiet. I could be misremembering this, but I dont think I am. So this actually seems really plausbile to me.
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If Panda is actually town, I will just
cry myself to sleep
retire from mafia
shout expletives in the thread until everyone hurries up and MLs me
headdesk for a solid 5 minutes and then probably demand that we start chucking Ultra Balls at Red Gary.
God. I cant even think of who might be on a scumteam if Panda is town. RG..and probably not CF? I have a hard time seeing CF waffling so hard on this situation unless he knows Panda is town and is REALLY REALLY trying to appeat apathetic about it until panda is mislynched at which point he can go "ah-ha, I knew ap was the scummzorz" and ML me in what would be Mylo at that point. So I guess I can see that actually, he does genuinely seem to not understand why scum-Kat and scum-me would engage in our current behavior which could just be scum being honest about things and letting the show carry on, on its own while he postures on other people. Ok. RG/CF/......I dunno. Foxhound seemed genuinely smug about being right about Panda, I tend to doubt a situation where they are scum if Panda is town. So I'll write them off of this hypothetical. RG/CF/{JSU/Nacho}/????(TAMMY?/PV?)
