Tales of You (Endgame)

[Just Sheep Us]

because you seem to be having so much trouble, that means

angrypidgeon is confirmed town

. no matter what mental gymnastics you try to perform or boogeymen you try to conjure

[Katsuki]

LALALALA

[Katsuki]

Its just like how you have nacho read as town rofl

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I'm waiting to see how you explain tomorrow its gonna be fun

You seem awfully sure you're going to be today's lynch and not Cupcake.

And hey, I'm onboard with towncho too, so it's not one player being insane, it's multiple players agreeing on a read that bloody well makes sense.

[Katsuki]

And you guys are probably wrong about it so meh? Sorry if I dont put much weight on the collective read of towns that have yet to lynch scum.

Honestly though if I were in the situation AP was in as a scumteam, I would've claimed something like what JUS claimed so. Players are just so willing to believe innocent results like that (go read Encore Mafia).

[AngryPidgeon]

am with you but unless we can figure out why/how JSU is confirming AP

By claiming a role.

That doesnt work

On scum

That tracked me.

To Stalin.

Waht the

Actual fuck.

Do you think

they are just lying or something as town?

I dont

I just dont.

[CarbonFiber]

What are you frustrated about? Katsuki is about to get lynched. You are getting what you want regardless of my doubts about your affiliation.

[Katsuki]

He's gotta continue with his act.

He's getting back at me for Anything Goes anyways.

[The Fox and the Hound]

DV that's a pretty disappointing catch-up

- What did you think about magenta's suggestion for a partial flavor claim?

- What did you think about two players reporting being blocked?

-Thank you

-I have reason to believe they don't know what they're talking about. I'm considering pushing for an explanation of why they think what they think, but that will come later if I decide on it.

-I think that two players reported being blocked. I don't suspect either of these players nor townread either of these players because of their report. Is there a reason why you think it's important?

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CF, my outstanding issue is you acting all high and mighty on the JSU read (the two brain cells quote) when Tammy was an even stronger read the day previously which you were going back on at the time. I don't understand how one can claim that only stupidity could lead to not townreading a certain player after legitimately having an experience such as that with someone who was previously your strongest townread.

Im pretty concerned that neither you nor DV bothered to listen to my point about mastin's play in that game compared to here. I'd probably say its scummy of you 2, but I know you are confirmed so whatever I guess. Still extremely annoyed that no one gave a shit about me waiting to out this.

I still need to ISO you of course, but I don't really remember you trying very hard to prevent mastin getting lynched (a lot of talk about policy lynching comes to mind), so I don't understand why you can be pissy with me, especially when I think my thoughts on the subject were pretty reasonable.

FOX HOUND WHAT IS YOUR GAME FLAVOR TIA

Why do you want to know?

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AP, is there anything about you that makes certain characters' abilities not work on you?

I know that this should be common sense and already have been answered, but it's amazing how often this kind of thing doesn't happen, to be followed by several 'doh!' moments!

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If you think I would've aborted LURK2VICTORY as scum and risk my head fakeclaiming as scum then you're smoking some serious stuff

Do you legitimately think lurk2victory would have worked as scum? Because I don't.

I am not sure why Cupcake would fake a guilty on AP at this point. With Mastin telling us to lynch AP with his dying breath and some of us suspicious of him, if AP was town, scum could get the mislynch without any loss.

I am not buying Cupcake as scum.

I'm obviously only up to here, but I feel that if scum, Cupcake's position was such that he wasn't going to last long, and I actually don't think an AP mislynch would have been that assured. I am not surprised at all by the apparent number of roleblocking scenarios and so it's possible Cupcake as scum could have believed he'd have gotten away with it due to that. Of course, this also means it's possible that Cupcake is town and his ability legitimately did not work. I haven't made a decision on how likely each is yet, and expect that I won't until i'm caught up.

Unless scum have blocks and misdirections galore

I think this is actually possible.

Yeah but do we really believe that scum have more than one role blocker anyway?

I believe that there is more than one roleblocking role, whether town or scum I'm not sure, but I think there's no harm in my saying the following:

Our role implies heavily that there is more than one role with the potential to use a roleblock ability. Do with that what you will.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THERE BE A ROLE THAT'S STRONGER THAN COP ANYWAYS?! THINK ABOUT IT, IT ESSENTIALLY GIVES ALIGNMENT RESULT + ROLE CONFIRMATION OF TOWNIES

With the amount of roleblocking abilities that I suspect there are, I think that the result merely failing on scum, gives the potential for a lot of false positives.

The Fox and the Hound - read is stale as fuck and I am not all that happy with where they've placed their attention on day 3, and am very not happy with the lack of attention on day 2.

Why are you using degree of attention to read me?

That leaves three more scum among RG, Fox, Magenta, and Nacho. I'm not entirely sure if the game makes sense that way. Sure, Nacho could be bussing Orc, and Cupcake is scum with them leaving the last scum to be Fox/RG. That is not entirely implausible actually.

Scum are probably among penguin/RG/Fox/Cupcake/Magenta.
I think Penguin currently looks the towniest out of that entire group.

Tell DV that maybe he should actually follow through with his promises.
Or actually do something today!

So yeah I get that I'm being bad, but what does that have to do with reading me? Considering you've actually argued in previous games that, if anything, more posts = scum DV, I don't get it. And it's not like I haven't provided enough posts for someone to get a read on me.

DV: I don't think your avatar is all that cute and I don't think you're a very nice person.

Thank you.

I don't. I think I haven't had a halfway decent suspect since I decided to rethink Mastin. Other than Cupcake I have essentially no idea who the scum are. I half feel like it's an all town block + Cupcake scum team or something just running the game, because right now nothing actually makes sense to me. I feel like the mockery I call reads are total shit and I might as well ask random.org what to do.

Ok, so I just got to this, and while it's a Ceph post I think it highlights exactly what I feel is wrong with how reads on us have been progressing this game. We haven't been very good town lately sure, and we haven't been contributing much, but that doesn't mean we haven't been town. It's not like we have so few posts that they're not able to read us, and it's not like we have been deliberately cagey or closed the whole game. It should be up to them to read us, and with sheer content being so unrelated to alignment for most players (and especially for me), being completely frank here the thought that 'I haven't been very good town here therefore I'm not very town' is ridiculous and defeatist. I feel bad that I have probably been the opposite of a strong town player here know that I've been really town this game, and it confuses me greatly that players such as ffery (who has suspected me wrongly for similar reasons in the past) and Nacho (who would probably be the best player on MS at reading me despite how much I joke about it) are using the fact that I/we haven't been posting much content as reasons why we aren't town.

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Practically finished catch-up. Will finish off and work out what I think should happen today tonight (a decision will def be made tonight, I'll stay up all night if I need to). I know I've taken a really long time with this and I just don't know what to say about that without sounding like I'm making excuses.

Also as always a question may be out of date now, if it is just move on. I can't be bothered going back and changing things.

[CarbonFiber]

CF, my outstanding issue is you acting all high and mighty on the JSU read (the two brain cells quote) when Tammy was an even stronger read the day previously which you were going back on at the time. I don't understand how one can claim that only stupidity could lead to not townreading a certain player after legitimately having an experience such as that with someone who was previously your strongest townread.

This is something I already explained a ton of times. I didn't literally mean most of what I initially wrote early D3 and I certainly don't think not townreading JSU is stupid. If you caught up like you say you did, you'd realize that because I explained about a dozen times that I reacted irrationally because I was stressed at that time irl and was also making up scumteam possibilities in the neighborhood.

[The Fox and the Hound]

I didn't think that you weren't serious about people being stupid for not townreading JSU, and I'm sorry if you made this clear and I missed it.

[CupcakePanda]

If you think I would've aborted LURK2VICTORY as scum and risk my head fakeclaiming as scum then you're smoking some serious stuff

Do you legitimately think lurk2victory would have worked as scum? Because I don't.

With this playerbase? Would've worked easily with 3 scumbuddies backing me up.

I am not sure why Cupcake would fake a guilty on AP at this point. With Mastin telling us to lynch AP with his dying breath and some of us suspicious of him, if AP was town, scum could get the mislynch without any loss.

I am not buying Cupcake as scum.

I'm obviously only up to here, but I feel that if scum, Cupcake's position was such that he wasn't going to last long, and I actually don't think an AP mislynch would have been that assured. I am not surprised at all by the apparent number of roleblocking scenarios and so it's possible Cupcake as scum could have believed he'd have gotten away with it due to that. Of course, this also means it's possible that Cupcake is town and his ability legitimately did not work. I haven't made a decision on how likely each is yet, and expect that I won't until i'm caught up.
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That's stupid I was not getting lynched any time soon.

Pretty much the basis of today and my lynch has been that I'm a terrible scum player, and that I have 0 idea how to play as scum and would play as suboptimally as humanly possible.
Which is how I wrecked APBROS in anything goes I suppose?

[CupcakePanda]

Also there's 12p alive. I wouldve saved my claim for tomorrow if I was going to ever fakeclaim.

This is a situation where it made 0 sense to.

If you want to look at my recent history of fakeclaiming...
Nvm typed it all up was glorious but pointless to give insight to my play but yeah.

[penguin_alien]

I am really paranoid about the "unfiltered thoughts" and the

pointing out things about me she doesn't like.

Reminds me of how sure everyone was of Ghatokaca-town in Wicked based on the neighborhood.

It feels like she is saying all these things in secret and the rest of us can't see what it is.

Re: the bolded, that's...kind of how neighborhoods work? Useful relevant stuff is showing up here, things that I want to watch for or think Tammy should watch for if I die are staying there.

And are you surprised you were a hot topic of discussion for us, given the start of the day? I realize it probably feels like it's middle school and we're gossiping about you behind your back, but really...

OK. Thirteen pages, and what did we learn. Most people's roles. Well done.

Sorry, head reeling. More convinced than ever that Cupcake is the scum between {JSU, AP}. Before it was more my town read on JSU and the guaranteed payoff of getting one more dead scum than town; now I want a Cupcake lynch because his behavior here is scummy as hell and AP is looking damn town.

I have no problem hammering this lynch within a couple days, but I'd like to make sure anything else that has to be said is said. CF, are you planning to make another neighborhood?

I'll mull this over, but at this point either Katsuki is scum and we have a great jumping off point for reeling in the scum team or a town-Katsuki means the scum team got narrowed down right quick.

Elsewhere PV mostly feels town, I want more on record from RG, Fox and Hound are walling and I keep forgetting what they say, and I need to get a real read on orcinus-Mara pronto. The dissent I see among everyone re: the towniness of their cagefight is notable.

[AngryPidgeon]

So yeah I get that I'm being bad, but what does that have to do with reading me? Considering you've actually argued in previous games that, if anything, more posts = scum DV, I don't get it. And it's not like I haven't provided enough posts for someone to get a read on me.

Is your motivation in this game to catch scum or to "provide enough posts for people to get a read on you"?

I still need to ISO you of course, but I don't really remember you trying very hard to prevent mastin getting lynched (a lot of talk about policy lynching comes to mind),

so I don't understand why you can be pissy with me

, especially when I think my thoughts on the subject were pretty reasonable.

You just discarded my point to prevent mastin getting lynched and went back to doing your own thing. And I had to put up with mastin howling about thinking Im scum all day which made me fairly apathetic about defending her, but I fucking tried. Dont tell me I didnt.

[CarbonFiber]

Penguin, no two non-AP players have claimed to be in the same neighborhood so I probably won't activate one. But it is compulsive and I have to pick a title each day so I'll probably pick a random one that AP isn't in.

You said in your post before the previous one that you wanted to talk to me. What did you want to discuss?

[CarbonFiber]

Penguin, no two non-AP players have claimed to be in the same neighborhood so I probably won't activate one. But it is compulsive and I have to pick a title each day so I'll probably pick a random one that AP isn't in.

You said in your post before the previous one that you wanted to talk to me. What did you want to discuss?

[AngryPidgeon]

Are you just being petty now?

[CarbonFiber]

No, just don't want to give you the chance to manipulate people in neighborhoods.

[penguin_alien]

Penguin, no two non-AP players have claimed to be in the same neighborhood so I probably won't activate one. But it is compulsive and I have to pick a title each day so I'll probably pick a random one that AP isn't in.

You said in your post before the previous one that you wanted to talk to me. What did you want to discuss?

Don't remember. Will say so if/when I remember. I missed Tammy in neighborhood, so.

[CupcakePanda]

PAs posts give me dreadful feelings.

[Cabd]

I know this is more than a single bump or two

[Cabd]

But I'm about to crash

[Cabd]

And I value giving pagetop'd vote counts

[Cabd]

for some crazy reason