MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 2, VC 21

Venmar - (3):

Cerulean,

Nero Cain

, Untrod Tripod

Tim Howard - (1):

kanyeknowsbest

Untrod Tripod - (2):

Tim Howard, Plum

kanyeknowsbest - (2):

Plessiez, Zdenek

Nero Cain - (5):

chamber, Shadoweh, Venmar, Lady Lambdadelta, xRECKONERx

Not voting - (2):

Flipping Awesome, Nobody Special

With

15

alive it takes

8

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

11th of May at 8:10pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-05-11 15:10:00)

No one is V/la.[/area]

[Zdenek]

I had her role - the no lynch thing in Nexus' WWE game so is she making the no lynch thing up? Its plausible that Minaday could deviate from the role so...idk.

What motivated this?

I just had a similar role and felt the need to share but LLD is scum now so I mean...

I see.
Your role there was quite different.

[Nero Cain]

Other then the nl part what was different?

not counting out alignments.

[Zdenek]

LLD chooses the lynch on her own.

There aren't votes after she uses her ability.

[Untrod Tripod]

beetlereck beetlereck beetlereck

[xRECKONERx]

hi

[xRECKONERx]

I kinda jumped on the kanye train for reasons I don't want to make public.

I feel like it's time that I want to here this explicitly.

I thought I was picking up on a cop breadcrumb or softclaim w/ a guilty on kanye.

[Nero Cain]

So when did you stop thinking this?

[kanyeknowsbest]

hello, can the people who were voting timt howard but then decided they ddint awnt to vote him anymore once his claim came please explain the rationale that made that ability shift him from scum please kill him to town guess were not killing him on2 the next 1. you know who you are ty.

[xRECKONERx]

So when did you stop thinking this?

When his wagon didn't pick up momentum or died or w/e and no cop claim came out?

[Shadoweh]

Our roles suck and as long as he's going to give them to townies (which as a day effect he can't oops they went to dead people) there's a reward in keeping him alive. to put it simply anyways.

[Cerulean]

im a bit hung over and still not interested in moving zzzzzz

I'm right there with you on the hungover part!

[chamber]

at 9:15????

[Cerulean]

Someone asked for venmar meta. My medicine is kicking in so I'm not coordinated to find it and link it but I remembered earlier today that I played with him in red wedding. I thought it had just been chef mafia but red wedding too.

Have you read Xenosaga, Tammy?

Because I was sort of agreeing that town!Venmar in the Red Wedding doesn't sound much like Venmar does in this game, but I looked for another town!Venmar game and Xenosaga feels much more like Venmar's posts here.

How convinced is Empire about Venmar being scum? Does he have any reasons to add beyond the day 1 stuff?

No, I haven't read that game, but I'll take a look at it tonight.

I asked empire this question yesterday, and he said that a lot of it was still the day one stuff but beyond that he's not really scumhunting today and what little he does do is extremely shallow. But really that's all I got out of him before he left and he's out of town pretty much every weekend now so I probably won't get a chance to really talk to him before deadline. Last night he reiterated that he's fine moving to kanye if venmar won't work cuz Poe and lack of engagement, I'm just not sure I feel super comfortable with that, so I need to think about it. I am concerned my hesitation comes from what carp I'll feel like mislynching him, but this was part of what kept me from hammering him in wizards and he ended up winning. I was hoping to have more interaction with him though last night but I got distracted on Skype and vodka so I didn't pursue what I was going for. I was hoping I'd get a sense of the way he interacted with me in wizards as he pretty actively manipulated me there, but he did say during that game that we needed to work on my paranoia and then afterwards that he probably wouldn't let me live close to endgame again because he couldn't trust me to do what he wanted, so he could be changing his tactic? IDK. It's hard to get a handle there.

[Cerulean]

at 9:15????

8:15

Headache has subsided for the most part but still tired.

[Tim Howard]

ISO'd Nero Cain. I don't like lynching him, seems town. Commencing reading up on the last few pages I missed now!

Not surprised NC doesn't have a reference to the doublevote in his role; it's Venmar's role, not his. (not alignment relevant)

We chose our targets according to who we thought was town.

kanye, my buddying on you in fire and ice was because I think you are a pretty damn good player, hence my scumread on you in this game for being super-useless

How many times have you seen me get that frustrated as scum?

Dunno? Not really an alignment thing, like I said, you just seem easily frustrated.


UT wagon is clearly not happening today, which is
VOTE: kanye
would vote venmar if that wagon gets bigger soon. will vote nero if I absolutely must to get a lynch today.

[Shadoweh]

We chose our targets according to who we thought was town.

>_> That's kind of obvious. Flipping said 'Card received'. Did you give him the card immediately when you claimed?

[Tim Howard]

That's pretty much the entirety of the reasoning? And we had given the card prior to the claim, but it gets sent through the mods, so timing/delays/etc

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 2, VC 22

Venmar - (3):

Cerulean,

Nero Cain

, Untrod Tripod

Tim Howard - (1):

kanyeknowsbest

Untrod Tripod - (1):

Plum

kanyeknowsbest - (3):

Plessiez, Zdenek, Tim Howard

Nero Cain - (5):

chamber, Shadoweh, Venmar, Lady Lambdadelta, xRECKONERx

Not voting - (2):

Flipping Awesome, Nobody Special

With

15

alive it takes

8

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

11th of May at 8:10pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-05-11 15:10:00)

No one is V/la.[/area]

Less than 24 hours remaining!

[Flipping Awesome]

What we were debating was to whether to vote Venmar or Kanye. I would vote either over Nero Cain or UT.

[Untrod Tripod]

might I suggest Venmar?

that double vote of his sure would be mighty good to get rid of yessir

[Cerulean]

Hmm does Thor really die early a lot? Interesting. I don't know how to take neros it's all right if I'm lynched thing. It's been awhile since we've played together except charmed but I didn't follow along after I died. I just always think of him having more of a fight in him, so this is confusing. Though he is kinda reminding me of American revolution when he saw another tracker flip and expected to get lynched that day, but I think there was more of a fight? IDK I'd have to check. He fooled me in marketplace three by giving the town attitude I expect, but I've still leant town here. I'll only vote here to avoid a no lynch or to keep a stronger town read from dying.

Speaking of which plum I get your suspicion on reck I really do, but I really think you're wrong here. For your shadoweh comment, I was in the reckoning with UT, and he's right about how hostile that game was. We all pretty much fought the entire game, and they were not pretty fights at all, and the fact that we somehow were able to pull off a perfect town win is a miracle. I can totally see why he would be playing peacemake here after that game. That game along with other tense/hostile games is where I've felt particularly on edge and needing a break from mafia. In fact, his lightheartedness is part of where I'm reading him as strongly town. Those logical jumps you noticed where a really big reason why people wanted to lynch him in the reckoning and Mina was trying to explain how that was actually a town tell for him. As scum he has this weird kind of aggression and tries to fake humor in a way that doesn't come out right, but as town jumps around and throws out gut reads and makes illogical jumps. I helped mislynch him in yoloville for a very similar thing, and I think it's why he was so mislynch able in the reckoning until we weak neighborized him, but like he was scum reading us until then but I don't think he even pushed us or voted us because I was town reading him so strongly and "buddied" him. I think you're case on him makes you look rather town as your "look at this guy" just feels so real and not what I remember from on the boat but I'd have to go back and check to make sure that I'm remembering your tone right. Anyway, I realize the wagon on it won't take off today, but he's one of my stronger town reads and I want to make sure this is out there.

[Cerulean]

What we were debating was to whether to vote Venmar or Kanye. I would vote either over Nero Cain or UT.

Guh?

[Cerulean]

What we were debating was to whether to vote Venmar or Kanye. I would vote either over Nero Cain or UT.

Guh?

Misread, never mind. Tired.

[chamber]

I'm sad that no card went my way .