Mini 1566: Lunar Silver Star Story Complete (Game Over)

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 3.8

[2] Mac (Antihero, Aegor)
[1] Aegor (Kdub)
[1] Hello Kitty Creampuff (Squirrel Girl)
[1] Jake From State Farm (Hello Kitty Creampuff)
[1] Kdub (Mac)
[1] Squirrel Girl (zMuffinMan)
[1] zMuffinMan (Jake From State Farm)

[1] Not Voting (BROseidon)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-05-16 17:00:00)

[Aegor]

HKC, vote Jake in your next post, otherwise I am not voting him again today.

Frankly, I want him gone regardless of alignment because his continued presence is detrimental to town, but w/e.

[Hello Kitty Creampuff]

My vote is already on him, though

[Jake from State Farm]

I'll respond to that huge wall when I get back to my PC

and while I'm at it, I could also very easily quote out why we should be town by play, alone and how jakes claim that we are being survivalistic is false

please do this to I can point out why it doesn't make you town like you think.

(also notice that the focus isn't even the SMP bus, that you think I'm using as the main fuel against jake) yeah, it's a reason for why I think he's scum, but it's more on how upset he is over not getting the "credit he deserves" re that.

That's a natural reaction. When you lead a lynch and then people try to downplay it. My reaction makes me 100% town since I single handidly outed smp as scum

[Aegor]

VOTE: Jake

[Aegor]

Jake, if you fucking mention your "single-handed" handing-over of SMP again, I will votepark you.

[Aegor]

Did you come to this conclusion based on our last exchange? Explain please.

Feels like you are trying to set up another lynch if one of us flips town

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Yes.

[Hello Kitty Creampuff]

Not interested in your analysis of my cases, jake

[Jake from State Farm]

jakes annoyance at us seems to make us think he knows we r town

I get annoyed people in general regardless of their alignment. Your accusation falls in line with the one time I was trying to get majiffy lynched and I said something to the effect "he always leads us astray" and people interpreted that as me knowing he was town. I didn't, turns out I was town and jiffy was scum. When you play with me you play with a person who thinks eveyone is scum but treats them like I could be wrong.

bottom line this is a non issue for me.

so that being said your follow up quote of 322 is rendered obsolete and so is 328

while jake is calling us scum, his story to why we are scum continually changes and still gives a contradictory message to what is actually going on..

I already addressed this one, my story didn't change it evolved. It started with one thing and I added more things to it. The earlier things addressed still applied. Evolving reads is 100% town.

actually, the second could be an addition to the first accusation, though the policy lynch thing and the summary given don't match up with your arguments against us at all

not sure what you are trying to get at with this one

appeal to fear when you only had two votes on you?

this just isn't true and we discussed this, bringing it up again when it's factually false is just mudslinging

jake's panicky "omgerz im a PR" claim looks fake as hell

Given the scum role, actually my claim is proven legit as a motherfucker

except, I don't think he's panic claiming... not really, and even if he was even the most experienced are prone to such a thing. I still think he's trying to get people scared of lynching him.

this is wrong and you really grasping at straws

and, believe it or not, this head isn't trolling and is playing seriously regardless of not knowing of this game existence to begin with

besides, if you were town, you wouldn't even be upset with us in the first place because, in your mind we are playing to our win-con

1. you were/are trolling
2. tbh I have no idea why i let you get to me but I did.

I've stated that I think you're fear mongering

and I stated i wasn't

appealing to fear

using scare tactics

trying to make people scared of you

I do not think that you, yourself is scared. I think you are trying to scare other people.

None of this actually happened, more mud slinging

I've stated that at least twice, and you are twisting it into me saying I think you are scared when I'm not, why?

cause that is how i interpreted your actions.

You, in the heat of the converstation, and you outside of it are two completely different things, you are completely ignoring any attempt I've done to actually try and sort you AND you are trying to hide the fact that you're omgusing which, I guess make sense since you think that OMGUS is a scum trait when it fucking ist

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wasn't ignoring anything and I certainly wasn't omgusing you since we voted you first. Obviously you don't know the definition of omgus

and you can't even call me fucking scum even when I'm intoxicatred, and thus have my ability to do stuff, stunted

yes I can because faking being drunk is scummy, posting if you are actually drunk is also scummy

and I am going back to

you shouldn't even be mad at us in the first place, since we are doing what we are supposed to be doing in your mind.... considering how strongly you "Scumread" us

I am not allowed to be mad at scum trying to mislynch me?

no really do you honestly believe that?

because there is no way town-you would be alive at this point in time, no way town-you would have been alive yesterday over Dan and all the "stuff" you have done isn't any better than what I have done, and I at the very least tried to get people sorted while you just sat there calling everybody scum. You wasn't even the main pusher on the SMP wagon, Ffery was which is pretty weird considering you "knew" SMP was scum. You back down on your push on me several times during D1, especially when it has been proven that I would be fuck-hard to get lynched, and started leading it against my "scum-buddy" instead

already addressed this. This is newbie mafia shit. leaving a PR alive so you can cast doubt against them for not being dead. If you are actually town pushing this theory you really should be ashamed of yourself. Fuck even if you are scum attempting to do this you should be ashamed of yourself. That is so old school

and, holy shit, the bussing for town-cred thing is pretty ingenious especially since you seem to be egocentric enough to believe you can carry an entire game on your own, as scum

yeah cause I would hard bus a scum PR as scum... gtfoh

and by this logic, through play if I was scum it would make total sense for me to just kill you because you're a PR anyway. If I am mafia, you would be a threat to me by play so...

Except for the fact that nobody is going to ever lynch you so I am not a threat to you. You have done a good job trying to discredit me that now people won't even listen to me.

you? all you have done is discredit people left and right, and have not yet made an actual case against anybody while I have made several cases over, and over D1 and D2. If I was scum, I would be pretty intent to just tunnel fuck all my way through D1, not take a break and consider other scumoption outside of you all just to try and appease ffery/cho.

asking us to replace out is pretty funny, because it seems like you are trying to get rid of the people who is the biggest threat to you, a threat you can't really kill because it would just point to you. Yeah, we're pretty apathetic, I have been since gamestart, but so is every other person in this game for the most part.

I don't think I have really discredited people, unless people are trying to say I am scum then I am defending myself and showing why they are wrong. If someone does something I perceive as scummy i am calling them out. Also I am not trying to get rid of the biggest threat to me cause you are no threat to me. Though I feel like if I am wrong about you and you are town you are playing against your win condition because if you are town you actually are playing against your win condition.


None of those quotes is any sort of case btw, it is a wall full of lies and misreps

[Jake from State Farm]

Wil the people voting the person who single handidly caught the only scum in the game please remove their votes and vote muffin. Please.

Thank you

[Aegor]

You know you want this dead. Vote Jake, people.

[Jake from State Farm]

A vote for jake is a vote for town MVP. Why would you want to lynch the town MVP?

[zMuffinMan]

tbh, while from a theory point of view a jake lynch is the best possible lynch (because it will result in either a scum flip or killing someone who is a liability at lylo and will 100% lose town the game) i do not actually think he's scum atm and would prefer lynching actual scum (like sg)

[zMuffinMan]

I mean it's really fucking tempting to policy lynch the fuck out of him to increase town win chance, but if we lynch actual scum and avoid lylo, we don't have to worry about jake losing the game for us

[zMuffinMan]

I mean, he could be scum and I'm giving his sheet naïveté too much leeway here but he's prob just town who would make a great policy lynch

[Jake from State Farm]

The only people who should be policy lynched is you and aegor for violating the mods rules and warnings. I'm pretty pissed at the mod for not punishing aegor but policy lynching me is a fucking riot.

I correctly identified scum before anyone else. I made a great case on smp before anyone else. Sure I had doubts at times like I do with every lynch, but ultimately I was right. I'm not going to be a liability at lylo. You, aegor, and hkc are the fucking liability cause the 3 of you combined did less than I have done this game when it comes to finding scum. Sure aegor wants to claim he was partly responsible for smp but he fucking sheeped me day 1 and didn't do dick til day 2 when he sheeped sangres.

So you 3 can go take a long walk off a short pier cause I'm the only one who made a case for smp scum. Anti gets partial credit for role blocking him and catching him in a lie, but nobody else gets credit for being sheep.


A vote for me is anti-town. The only thing you can even remotely hang your hat on is that maybe I bussed and while that is a remote possibility, I certainly wouldn't go to a other site and meta my scum buddy to get him lynched, especially since his role is probably the most important scum role.

Also when you factor that scum could find roles, a self watcher makes a great counter to that role. To think I'm scum with smp you would have to think we planned all this together which is laughable cause 1. I don't plan shit and 2. I never fake claim as scum (at least I'm 99% sure I never have ) cause I'm too afraid to. I'm a horrible liar.

So I'm sorry if you guys have hurt feelings or bruised egos but the facts of the game point to me being the closest to confirmed town next to antihero and even he isn't confirmed town cause it could be a tricky scum move ( not likely but possible)

The person who had the biggest ? Mark and should not be alive at lylo is muffin for the example I already posted. Smp knowing he was blocked had to either guess lucky or try and clear a partner. It's really 50/50 and SMART play is eliminate him first for reasons I already provided with my example.

Mac is a good lynch too but IMO muffin is the technically smarter play.

[zMuffinMan]

technically i've done more than you to find scum because i haven't pushed any mislynches and you have

but yes, you are a liability at lylo. you are never going to be night killed because scum will want to keep you around to wreck the town (or you're scum and i'm just giving you too much leeway by ignoring how awful your reads actually are and assuming you are just naive town who is very, very wrong). i'm guessing you rarely get night killed and you often make it to lylo when you're town. i'm guessing you don't understand why this happens and it must be because scum was PR hunting or something?

i have no violated any rules or warnings. i have not thrown insults at you, all i've actually done is given an accurate assessment of your skill level, which is, quite frankly, lacking. the fact that you keep going on and on about how you handed town scum only makes me think it's such a rarity for you to ever find scum that you're really giddy about getting something right for once. and given how bad your read on me is, and how bad i think your other reads are, i'm going to call you the liability you are for as long as you continue being a liability.

[zMuffinMan]

i mean, i imagine if you're town, you're right about one of aegor/HKC, but that's about it. so you're maybe right about 1/3 of those suspicions, and that would make you 2/5 overall because you were right about SMP and wrong about the D1 lynch. so kudos to you, your ability to find scum is... average at best.

everyone should be thanking you for handing SMP to town because i highly doubt SMP would have been lynched without you

the fact that every single in the person has told you you're wrong about this is probably because they're jealous of your scum hunting ability and has nothing to do with it being the truth

maybe one day all those jealous dudes will just respect your ability instead of belittling you

[zMuffinMan]

every single person in the thread*

[Jake from State Farm]

Actually lately I get nk'd more but way to back hand insult me yet again. You are classy

You have violated rules, you have insulted me and just did it again.

The evidence points to you being a good candidate for scum. All the people who tried and failed to lynch your slot day 1 obviously saw scummy behavior in your slot so while you insult me, 1 dead townie, 1 cop confirmed townie, 1 guy who rb'd scum all thought your slot was scum. Aegor did too and some people think he's town.

So you can take your deflections and insults and shove it. Don't you dare insult me or my ability again.

[zMuffinMan]

I do not even know why I bother talking to you

There's a very good reason nobody listens to anything you say

Maybe you should think about that

[Jake from State Farm]

The fact you push the blame onto others for mislynching a townie is scummy itself. Yes correct you weren't here to mislynch anyone. But you weren't here to lynch scum either. You haven't even attempted to read the thread and share your findings with your town mates, let alone attempt to scum hunt.

While I get easily distracted with hkc/ you/ aegor I'm still able to set that aside , look over VCs and such and still reach conclusions that logically make sense. Have you done that? No. Instead you deflect by insulting the person who thinks you are scum. You don't just insult me by calling me stupid or an asshole. No you take it to a whole new level.

People should listen to me and if they think I'm wrong do something more than say " nope you are wrong"

Nobody has shown how they reached their conclusions based on facts of the game. People pushing Mac need to show why Mac/smp make sense. People pushing hkc needs to show why they make sense.

I've explained why smp/scar( muffin) make sense. Coming in and saying boo and not giving real reasons isn't convincing enough.

You dont get to criticize anyone since you haven't done anything to help town.

[Kdub]

@Kdub - what's the Aegor case again? How do you feel about the Mac wagon?

To answer your second question first, I'm fine with a Mac wagon, and would vote him if it came down to Mac vs. HKC. I will admit that Aegor's recent posts (possibly trying to set up a chain lynch between me/Mac, then voting him) give me some pause.

As for your first question...

VOTE: Jake

^You see how terrible this vote is? Now look at Aegor's ISO and realize that stuff like this isn't a one-off thing, it's been a constant throughout the game.

Did you come to this conclusion based on our last exchange? Explain please.

Feels like you are trying to set up another lynch if one of us flips town

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Yes.

You bolded the wrong part, and you didn't explain anything. Unless you are admitting that you are simply trying to set up my/Mac's lynch on future days?

[Jake from State Farm]

I do not even know why I bother talking to you

There's a very good reason nobody listens to anything you say

Maybe you should think about that

If people can't bother to make a case for their suspect, I frankly don't care what they think.

If people want me to consider somebody else, they have to put a compelling argument on the table. Nobody's done that yet except me.

[Jake from State Farm]

Kdub - I'm challenging you now to make a compelling argument for aegor scum. Explain how they make sense with smp.

@anti and squirrel you need to do the same for your suspect.

I'm not going to sit here being ignored and insulted while putting in more time and energy reading this thread from front to back 3 times already. If you are town it's time to put up or sheep me. It's that simple.