Mini 1567 - Such Unusual Pretermen... ...Evil Too!

[LoudmouthLee]

Note: The more people push for the Zeph lynch without hearing from the slot, the more I'm sure that there's scum on that wagon, and the less I like it.

There are other VERY good choices for the day (read: Kagami) which allows us further knowledge about the interactions with players.

We have NS/FF with similar roles but completely different wording. We have Kag who seems to be way too speculative for my tastes. We have Who/Lowercase who I still dislike (Lynch all liars.)

I hate dominoing lynches, but the Zep lynch can wait for another day. No matter what he comes up as, we get NO additional information from that slot because of a LACK OF INTERACTION.

[Kagami]

You want interections? Why don't you have any opinions on Josh's interactions?

[LoudmouthLee]

I did. I stand by the fact that I think that Josh was a major scale bus. That's what I got from that. Sort posts by name, LoudmouthLee. My first 5-6 posts were about that. Thanks!

[Empking]

Vote Count Twenty-Four: No closer to a replacement for he who went thre door.

Zephyrus (4) - Juls, Belisarius, Cho, Nobody Special
Kagami (2) - geists, LoudmouthLee
FormerFish (1) - Kagami

Not Voting: Zephyrus, MTD, Lowercase, FormerFish

With Eleven alive, it is Six to lynch

(expired on 2014-05-17 13:57:32)

[Formerfish]

Didn't NS say he could target himself, how would that work with being able to pass it on?

[Formerfish]

And Kagami, for having tabled your read on me for the time being, you still have your vote parked on me.

[Nobody Special]

Didn't NS say he could target himself, how would that work with being able to pass it on?

Yes, I can target myself; I still have to pass it to someone else. (I think.....)

@Mod: Can I pass my doohickey to myself, or does it have go to a different player?

Also,

unvote

[Juls]

Do you seriously think the mod is going to answer that in thread?

[Formerfish]

Didn't NS say he could target himself, how would that work with being able to pass it on?

Yes, I can target myself; I still have to pass it to someone else. (I think.....)

@Mod: Can I pass my doohickey to myself, or does it have go to a different player?

Also,

unvote

I feel like there shouldn't be any ambiguity here with your role. Are you trying to tell us that your actions aren't well defined in your PM?

[Nobody Special]

Okay, I didn't look at my Role PM before asking, but I've looked now, and it does clearly say I have to pass it to another person if I use it.

Sorry, lazy/busy.

[Formerfish]

Vote NS

His claim is probably legit, with one small detail changed. The guy is scum through and through. Let's kill this with fire.

[Formerfish]

Well, except for the whole passing thing. And the batteryless zapper. And no wincon. And hes scum.

[Juls]

Yeah I can get on board with a NS lynch. I also don't like how LML says scum is on the wagon and he unvotes.

unvote, vote: NS

[Kagami]

I don't understand why a scum role would have a passing mechanic, nor why scum would report that mechanic, given that optimal scum-play would be to pass it amongst themselves.

[MTD]

What Kagami said, I am not really feeling the NS case.

[Juls]

I don't know what mechanic it could be but he's not scum hunting, his claim is all over the place and no one claimed anything to do with a battery. Nothing adds up about NS to me.

I kinda feel like that battery thing may have been a crumb to scum. Like maybe he is a role that will join scum and get some sort of role if he can get the gun working. Also, all he has to do is pass to the dead guy tonight and oops, there goes his pass.

[Juls]

And, he didn't pass N1 allegedly. So if it is a real thing, he likely already targeted his buddy with it.

[Juls]

Or his buddy could have gave it to him which makes more sense...sorry for triple post

[Formerfish]

He hasn't even explained exactly what it is. His role involves a zapper of some sorts, that it missing a battery. He can transform someone into a beast. He has to pass along the zapper. He can target dead people. He can target himself. Does that mean the zapper is separate from his transformative action or is it involved? If he targets himself how does the zapper get transferred? Does he pick two targets?

His role doesn't make sense with mine. I know my alignment, figuring out his would tell us a lot. Like how he could be tied with LC if that is the case. We had a N0 that the scum could have hatched the whole plan and it played out perfectly until now. NS made a choice to out his role because he knows that there is enough ambiguity with it to sound like it could possibly be town. I will point out once again that he failed to include a wincon with his claim because he had no idea what a town wincon in this game looked like.

[Nobody Special]

Oh, ffs.

I didn't include a wincon because I

thought

I'd already said I was town. I win if all mafia players are dead and at least one town player is alive (paraphrased to avoid modkill).

Also, the gun is missing the battery. Apparently, the missing battery is due to some glitch in the transformer doohickey.

The gun (and missing battery) are completely separate from the transformer doohickey.

Also, I am from the future. And my job (as it were) is to fix faults in the interdimensional continuum (again, paraphrased).

[geists]

Not liking this push on NS.

[geists]

also

UNVOTE

[Juls]

What don't you like about it. Or even a better question, what do you like about NS?

[geists]

I didn't start the game day liking NS much at all. I like the claim - its moving parts - and I like the reaction to pressure.

Nati and I didn't feel he's as strongly town as the other two PR claims last night when we talked.

I will say that I'm kinda over the gunsmith role this year. It's showed up (as a real role) in 3 recent games and in all three cases there were town players who would investigate as gunsmith-guilty as well as scum roles who would return gunsmith-innocent.

[Juls]

Hey NS, can you please give me your reads or some sort of commentary on the game?