Mini 1566: Lunar Silver Star Story Complete (Game Over)

[Jake from State Farm]

NONE OF THE CLAIMED PRS YOU SAID I SHOULD PROTECT ARE DEAD HOW ARE SCUM HOOKED UP?????

Sangres is dead. He was probably the most universal town read person in the game too. He certainly was a threat to scum

[Mac]

And also clearly one shot. Like I said, I didn't think scum would go for them so soon.

[Antihero]

@Anti - serious question. Why would Mac fakeclaim a Miller in his roleclaim?

so he can use the wifom it generates to defend himself and say "scum would never do that".
which is.... exactly what's happening.

[Antihero]

the ONLY thing that makes me doubt this lynch now is I just saw a game where mac was in and it was modded by bork, it was a miller-tracker so miller-cop is possible (though it's possible mac is aware of this and think it's an excellent fake claim)

the only thing that's making me doubt this lynch is SG

[Jake from State Farm]

And also clearly one shot. Like I said, I didn't think scum would go for them so soon.

And you question my ability to play?

Even if he's 1 shot, he's still a threat to mafia. More so then bork

[Jake from State Farm]

Err I mean bro

[BROseidon]

p-edit: because when BRO ups his game, he's an incredible asset to the town. I've never really played with you. Do I regret the decision? Given his lack of content here, obviously I do.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[BROseidon]

Seriously, though, everything on Mac's claim checks out fine.

The amount of theory fail b/w anti and jake is lulz.

[BROseidon]

Last time I said, "scum are clearly pushing bad theory to get a mislynch on a town pr," it turned out to be mostly town players (and relatively strong ones at that, HI FFERY) who were fucking up in really stupid ways.

VOTE: SG holding my vote here for now.

[Jake from State Farm]

If mac doesn't confirm his role he's auto lynched.

vote hkc

It gives me great pleasure to hop on this train. All aboard

[Hello Kitty Creampuff]

VOTE: Jake from State Farm

Your vote's terrible.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yours is 10x worse so whatever

[Mac]

Jake, fuck you? Why would I waste a protect on you (you're not going to die, let's be honest) tonight?

[Jake from State Farm]

It is less about me dying and more about confirming you.

You play has been wack
You didn't claim miller like you are supposed to (don't act like you didn't know you ain't supposed to)
Your protection targets were horrible.

[Antihero]

@mac: confirm yourself to jake.

otherwise, there's not enough rope in the world to describe what happens to you tomorrow.

VOTE: HKC

[Hello Kitty Creampuff]

meh ive been really apathetic so idc

we are a beautiful green VT as pure as honey

ill self hammer tomorrow if needed, but we'd like jake to be roped tomorrow

our focus hasnt been laser BUT

we want sg to know that if she actually LOOKS at our case on jake, it's actually real reasons and incredibly legit and goes into potential motivation, when all jake has done is surface crap

[Hello Kitty Creampuff]

oh and antihero needs a look for the L-1 vote without announcement.

oh well who cares we will self hammer but jake will die tomorrow when we flip town

[Hello Kitty Creampuff]

that last bit was to SG and we have been kinda busy altho we r talking to sg

[Jake from State Farm]

oh and antihero needs a look for the L-1 vote without announcement.

oh well who cares we will self hammer but jake will die tomorrow when we flip town

[Squirrel Girl]

not sure what i want to do at this point

I think the basic question is the Miller one and the Doc one. We can debate left right and sideways of if he should have protected a different target - the thing is, like lynch preference, different players are going to think differently.

The thing is, a large majority of games have a protective role. Also, as I'll discuss with Antihero in a second here, I just see no value in bothering with the Miller claim. Like, seriously, a scum player would go with Doc only with a dead Cop. Unless the argument is that you think Mac is playing some high level wifom schtick...but I think I'm the only one calling it out, and that means he totally misunderstood how it would be taken if it was an attempt at that, which makes one wonder why he thought it would theory work...and also why he'd even need to bother as a Doc claim is, really, a pretty decent reason not to lynch someone anyway and would already accomplish a scumvantage angle by trying to lure a counterclaim regardless. It just makes no sense to bother with it - it gains nothing. Ergo; probably just a combo of weird mod lulz design paired with a guy choosing to play Miller in a weird way...and as a *doc* Miller...I...sorta can see the reasoning to not claim right away. I'm not sure if I agree with it (I'm not sure I disagree with i), but I can see it.

so he can use the wifom it generates to defend himself and say "scum would never do that".
which is.... exactly what's happening.

I would buy into that if it was just a Miller claim. Like, straight up, you'd have me and my vote would have been locked. But he's also claiming Doc. Doc is...y'know, a pretty solid fakeclaim for scum to go for, there hasn't been a flipped town protective yet, he's already got an angle to try to lure a counterclaim. Why would he toss in a Miller thinkg on top of that for extra wifom when 'Doc claim' is already pretty wifom, and is wifom in a *better* way to avoid a lynch, which is the sheer purpose of fakeclaiming Doc as scum in the first place.

I don't really get it, do you get something I don't? Because I'm not getting it.

we want sg to know that if she actually LOOKS at our case on jake, it's actually real reasons and incredibly legit and goes into potential motivation, when all jake has done is surface crap

Can you summarize the hot point of the case that I'm not seeing?

[Squirrel Girl]

oh and antihero needs a look for the L-1 vote without announcement.

oh well who cares we will self hammer but jake will die tomorrow when we flip town

Are you outright trying to be rude to people?
I don't think it's particularly helpful for a town wincon.

[zMuffinMan]

I'm not going to be home for a few hours but I really think mass claim is a good idea here because there are three fucking soft claims on top of already flipped and claimed power and they are quite obviously not all town.

(It's fairly obvious which one i think is most likely scum but still would like mass claim out of the way)

[Squirrel Girl]

If you get an extension I could get behind that, but I'm not in favor of trying to wedge a massclaim debate and execution into the last 22 hours of a game day.

Do you have some clarified reads from your re-read now?

[zMuffinMan]

it's precisely because we're close to night phase that I don't want you or anyone else having extra time to plan a fake claim

[Jake from State Farm]

oh and antihero needs a look for the L-1 vote without announcement.

oh well who cares we will self hammer but jake will die tomorrow when we flip town

Are you outright trying to be rude to people?
I don't think it's particularly helpful for a town wincon.

That's not being rude.