Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[reinoe]

R, with that piss poor hammer you think that all scum were on your wagon.

SSK hammered as soon as the ika counterwagon picked up steam. There's two explanations for this. The first one which SSK should have claimed with his post if town (and I'm withholding to see if he says it). The second is that SSK is scum with ika and came out of the woodwork to ensure a mislynch and give ika the opportunity to talk himself out of this.

Yeah, that didn't escape my notice. But that wagon picked up steam way too fast. I think all three scum had to be on it before then. It's possible the town play today really was that piss poor but I'm not willing to buy into it yet.

And by "that wagon" I mean mine.

But more than anything IKA needs to be lynched tomorrow and associative tells for day two should be analyzed. Especially his "let's look into GM tomorrow" epic scum slip that he made to Burning Earth. Look at who tries to defend that scum slip.

[Titus]

Can you link the specific post? I think ika is almost certainly scum, but hypothetically assuming your scumread will be alive tomorrow isn't a scumslip.

[reinoe]

Can you link the specific post? I think ika is almost certainly scum, but hypothetically assuming your scumread will be alive tomorrow isn't a scumslip.

Not that one.

I was in that yeah. Not a proud moment

then im unaware of what game you might be refering to. anyway.......

So we look into GM tommorow?

And for anyone doubting the possibility of IKA's scum, here he's debating killing/mislynching GM with B_E. GM btw was one of the townier players today in this game. Guess you two forgot to take this discussion to your scum QT/Private topic?

[reinoe]

Who was your strong town read and why.

[retracted]

Be a bitch at everyone? I think I was only a bitch to bubba. But I'm a guy so in the future could you say I was being an asshole or a jackass?

I could.

I think my mislynch will solve the game because wagon is shit.

You not claiming or cooperating is shit

Which town game/s did you meta?

There was a newbie where you were an idiot who gambited doc as VT, there have been ohters but lazy to find them

I'm gonna go to sleep now. Fun chit chatting with you. When you claim a role i will consider continuing discussion with you.

That's fine. I went to work and got screamed at by a bunch of senior citizens. Who'd of thought that would clear my head? Weird right? I'm glad I'm taking this different approach.

1) I especially enjoy your retraction of your strong town read sheeping comment.

2) This is not alignment indicative especially in light of someone getting run up on charges they think are b.s.

3) Thank you for sharing or not in this case. I'm not claiming, but have you forgotten that as of post 121, I was L-2. You put me at L-1. Are you saying that I should have claimed at L-2 and that's why you put me at L-1? As for not cooperating, besides me not claiming my role I've cooperated in every way possible.

4) This seems weak. It was a newbie game and I most certainly paid the price and learned my lesson. Wait are you saying that part of your case on me is policy lynch?

Whew, I'm glad I decided to approach this game in a different way than how I was before. I thought you were town but it's pretty clear that your "case" is actually just trumped up b.s. And here I thought you were town.

The good news is that you're absolutely right. I didn't have this game solved. My scum team speculation was wrong.

VOTE: ika

IKA claims he voted me because he was sheeping his strong read when he voted for me. When pressed about it, the comment was "retracted".

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Burning_Earth (1): Antihero
Dr Pants (1): Snork
ika (3): goodmorning, Titus, reinoe

reinoe (7): Burning_Earth, HighShroomish, GreyICE, Dr Pants, bubbajack8, ika, MafiaSSK

Not voting (1): Kitoari

With

13

players alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch a player.

reinoe was visiting his buddy in Las Vegas to celebrate his old friend CJ's birthday. It had been nearly 5 years since reinoe had chilled with CJ down in Vegas. CJ's dad had gotten everyone the hookup with an executive suite at the Silver Twilight Lodge. It looked more like a like a secluded mansion than a hotel, as if the mansion from the original

Resident Evil

had been converted. Think Overlook Hotel from

The Shining

. Located in the super ritzy Lake Las Vegas area, the luxurious community emphasized privacy.

As the drinks continued to flow at the birthday party Carl Stanford, Jr. announced that there was a special surprise for reinoe in the underground area. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas and all that. Silver Twilight Lodge? Carl Stanford? Why was reinoe feeling so tense? A little more alcohol to ease the apprehension.

reinoe read "Nyarlathotep" on the walls as they approached the inner sanctum but he figured he was just too drunk to be reading correctly.

"I would like you to meet The Black Man, reinoe," Carl Stanford, Sr. announced. Carl Stanford Jr., CJ, had a freakish grin on his face.

"Ha, ha, racial jokes," reinoe thought. But reinoe was too drunk to realize how much danger he was in and he was too inebriated for it too matter once he did.

reinoe, who was a

vanilla townie

, has been backstabbed by an old friend on Day 1.

Night 1 ends in (expired on 2014-05-16 12:25:36).

Do mafia have daychat?

I can't tell you.

[StrangerCoug]

You see a rather weird sight as you wake up this morning—GreyICE with his legs strapped to a nuclear bomb. He seems to be taking this disturbingly well, seeing as he's

RIDING

the bomb as if it were a horse.

"

YEEHAW!

" GreyICE screams, cowboy in hand, just before it lands and causes a nuclear winter.

Welcome to WWIII. Now who are you fighting?

GreyICE, who was a

vanilla townie

, has been strapped to a nuke on Night 1.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-05-30 16:32:19).

[Titus]

Ok, a reread is in order. If scum killed GreyICE, there must have been a reason for it.

The only names I see relevant in checking GreyICE's ISO are Bubba, Burning and Antihero. It's quite a small ISO which works well to send a message, I guess... but what. Seeing interactions with Grey would be more helpful, but that means a reread with the assumption Grey was town.

Ika/SSK are probably scum and this kill is an excellent kill to divert suspicion. But wifom, it's an excellent kill to frame them too. I want to see ika's reaction while I focus on my reread.

VOTE: ika

[Dr Pants]

what caught my eye was snork's introduction. while there were a few people who didn't want a reinoe lynch, very few people actually defended him. I find it odd then that Snork was able to tell that "Reinoe is fucking obvtown". Additionally this looks very opportunistic:

Reinoe is a shitty fucking lynch and looks to me like it has only gotten so far because half the town is asleep and the scum are having an easy time of it. That wagon is going to be uber useful.

VOTE: Snork

Specifically, what happened in the first seven pages that told you that Reinoe was obvtown?

[Titus]

Dr. Pants, are you seriously skipping the shitty hammer and pushes for hammers to go for someone defending not making a mistake?

[Dr Pants]

Yep. what, did you expect an apology and for me to abandon all attempts? I learned that boneheadedness and a large ego aren't very helpful, but I'm still gonna look at the things I'm gonna look at. Fell free to agree or disagree.

[Dr Pants]

In a reverse question, do you think all scum were on the wagon?

[StrangerCoug]

Game halted for a mod ruling. Stopping the clock at this time.

[StrangerCoug]

There has been a mod error; I will explain what happened after the game. For now, the game will continue with (expired on 2014-05-30 18:25:24) left in Day 2.

[Snork]

Reinoe was obvtown because he was. His reactions were really townie. I really don't know how else to say what is obvious. The sky is blue. The grass is green. It's right there in front of your face. I do like the OMGUS though, considering your only point is that I could tell pretty easily that he was town. I also think it's quite a statement and likely means I'm correct about you.

SSK's hammer was also shit. Not sure if it's from scum or not. I would think he'd be better than that.

VOTE: Pants

[Snork]

There were also some things I wanted to respond to from yesterday but someone shut down the thread before I could come back.

[Titus]

It's quite possible a good chunk were on the wagon. However, it is obvious that the scumteam that Reinoe was putting forth was wrong.

That being said Pants, I was looking for a damn good reason for ignoring obvscum behavior and doing what I want isn't it.

This is seeming like the twilight zone game. Y'all are fixated on the cheerleaders while the Gorilla just wanders around in the middle of everything.

VOTE: ika

That last second hammer looked like it was to protect ika. SSK might have drawn short straw to hammer but I want to crack ika today to get certain as to his alignment.

[Burning_Earth]

Wut?

(@ above post and kill)

[Titus]

Killing GreyIce isn't really shocking. Did you think it would be?

The gorillas and cheerleaders comment comes from the psyhological study video where people asked people to count the number times the ball was passed. Then the psychologists asked if anyone saw the gorilla. No one did.

Here, Pants and Snork seem to be doing their own thing here and ignoring the Gorilla.

[goodmorning]

what caught my eye was snork's introduction. while there were a few people who didn't want a reinoe lynch, very few people actually defended him. I find it odd then that Snork was able to tell that "Reinoe is fucking obvtown". Additionally this looks very opportunistic:

Reinoe is a shitty fucking lynch and looks to me like it has only gotten so far because half the town is asleep and the scum are having an easy time of it. That wagon is going to be uber useful.

VOTE: Snork

Specifically, what happened in the first seven pages that told you that Reinoe was obvtown?

I actually kind of defended reinoe harder than Snork did, so...? Or am I just not Scum anymore because I refused to "bus" someone who flipped Town?

You're all over the map here, and it's kinda weird.

In a reverse question, do you think all scum were on the wagon?

ughhh is this shit starting already?????

There were also some things I wanted to respond to from yesterday but someone shut down the thread before I could come back.

Might my 213 have been one of them?

@Titus: what up with the multiple ika votes?

@BE: What's so weird about a Grey kill? What's so weird about Titus' post?

[Titus]

@GM, I really wanted ika to notice so he comes out here and answers what his plan was with that nonsense given the flip and people ignoring the gorillas.

Good thing I have a professional conference tomorrow and then my late night game group. I can totally miss this nonsense and maybe when I come back y'all will get to your senses.

Limited VLA tomorrow

[Dr Pants]

Reinoe was obvtown because he was. His reactions were really townie. I really don't know how else to say what is obvious. The sky is blue. The grass is green. It's right there in front of your face. I do like the OMGUS though, considering your only point is that I could tell pretty easily that he was town. I also think it's quite a statement and likely means I'm correct about you.

SSK's hammer was also shit. Not sure if it's from scum or not. I would think he'd be better than that.

VOTE: Pants

Lol. No. Reinoe was NOT obvtown. He advocated for policy lynches. He didn't hunt. He posted several things that I and at least a few others thought was scum. So Reinoe being town was not as obvious as the sky being blue.

To the rest of you. Gun for me. Give me your best god damn shot. If you are scum I WILL take you down.

[Dr Pants]

Here, Pants and Snork seem to be doing their own thing here and ignoring the Gorilla.

If I'm correct about Snork, I'm assuming you're the Gorilla. Good luck, buddy.

[goodmorning]

@Pants: wow i am so glad you totally just answered my questions

FFS

[ika]

Titus my plan is to catch scums. Im still tired and have work so i will be here tonight to answer all your sillyness and questions and what nots. for now, just know i have a plan

[Dr Pants]

I actually kind of defended reinoe harder than Snork did, so...? Or am I just not Scum anymore because I refused to "bus" someone who flipped Town?

You're all over the map here, and it's kinda weird.

The difference is the timing. I don't trust you at all, but at the very least your narrative has been consistent. Also your presentation was different. Going through your ISO, you didn't really comment on Reinoe that much, instead commenting on the play of everybody else.

Let me be clear about this. I'm not about to try to hard tunnel. I'm curious what it was that Snork saw. I'm disappointed that Snork didn't give a real answer, instead opting to tell me Reinoe's towniness was as obvious as the color of the sky. Even if you agree with Snork's position, don't you find that to be a pretty lame answer?