Mini 1576 - Timeshift Mafia II - Endgame

[Dr Pants]

I agree with Pie on this. I'm not sure why Bane straight up believed the claim and went for the "VT's shouldn't claim, so you're scum". It ignores the obvious alternative that Ms. Kaze is bluffing, but he seems to be pretty convinced that they aren't. Plus the "if you're town its still good for you to die".... oh man.

[Bane]

I didn't say so you're scum.

I said either she is scum or she is a village idiot, and in either situation a productive village can not survive while she is in it. That post does not scream scum at all, that post screams village idiot. It's the rest of her iso that is scummy and make the scum as viable as her being a village idiot.

and if Kaze IS bluffing, there was no use in outing a fake claim with only one vote and no *real* pressure on you. So is still a village idiot.


And if you don't think there is NEVER a situation where it is good for a town to die, you're an idiot.

[Dr Pants]

for flawless logic.

[Ms Kazekirimara]

At the time, though, I just threw my scum-read, your scum-read and one of your town reads together just to see how you'd respond~

Uh huh.

Feels like you're backtrackin', babe. I don't like how this feels.

Why are you talking more now that you're in danger of being lynched?

You're too self-aware for my liking.

You're pretty fucking cheeky for a newblet, jester

[Ms Kazekirimara]

Trickster, w/e

[Jeesh5]

catching up.

Kaze, any last words?

Would you like to roleclaim?

Or do you want to wait until the train has moved onto Kirimara Ave and is rolling at full steam ahead?

Not that roleclaiming will do you any good.

I've found it's typically pretty hard for players of your alignment to roleclaim properly without looking incredibly, well.. like what they are.

Honestly, I think the only reason we're letting you roleclaim is because it's a common courtesy.

Do tell, was the slip earlier in the game intentional and purposed to through the game off track or are those actually your buddies?

We are VT

and the slip was intentional.

VOTE: Ms Kazekirimara

Thanks for eliminating yourself from the scum's targetpool tonight of trying to hit town PRs. You never claim VT unless you're L-1 and everyoen demands a claim.
Fuck.

Either you're scum or you're the worst townie ever, either way, town can't survive while you do.

Originally I thought you were just annoying, now you need to die.

I kind of agree with this actually mebbe, cos I just caught some1 out as scum for doing the same thing in an offsite game. a vt's job is to tank for their team and when you highlight that you are vt when you are not being run up (how many votes did they have? 1?) it is dumb to "intentionally slip vt" when it is unnecessary. poll question is: was it unnecessary? I VOTE YES.

the only vote was from bulba and here is where it gets interesting; bulba placed a naked vote on kazemara at a time when there were active victor/metal pushes. so on the surface it looks like reaction testing but since the only reasons to vote kazemara at that time would have been for reasons of cageyness on kazemara's part and since bulba is being cagey himself it smells like a .

bulba/kazemara need to be run up today IMO.

continuing on...

[Jeesh5]

I think I might love you.

luckily esurio's not the jealous type

I hope

VOTE: Ms Kazekirimara

Thanks for eliminating yourself from the scum's targetpool tonight of trying to hit town PRs. You never claim VT unless you're L-1 and everyoen demands a claim.
Fuck.

Either you're scum or you're the worst townie ever, either way, town can't survive while you do.

Originally I thought you were just annoying, now you need to die.

this vote is absolutely terrible. "you're scum or you're town... and why would scum claim VT oh nvm forget it let's just throw in some bullshit to explain it". thing is, I'm not sure yet if this is scum trying to jump on the tiniest of things or legit misguided town. so I'm gonna wait for Jeesh's reasoning since they're voting Bane now and they(mollie) promised content.

I am aware Victor's responded to the wagon on him, so there's also that. I'll leave my vote til I get the chance to address that - I've only had time to skim & keep up with the thread on my phone at work and stuff but I should be able to post between tomorrow night and Monday nightish; need to do another read-over.

well I love esurio too! can't wait for you guys to get here <3

you feel town to me. like it is unmistakeable and this is what I was missing from the reckoning inv.

bulba was an initial townread cos he started a fight right off the bat and I would think that scumbulba would be hesitant to do this right away cos, well *consequences* but that townread has dropped mostly due to his cageyness and his ill-timed vote on kazemara. like I said, it smells/feels like a bus that was not expected to gain any traction. that is where I am sitting right now.

molla is a townread atm cos there is a world of difference between his play here and his play in anything goes. he is 1 of the very few players who managed to wiggle himself into my "don't touch, if you do I will hurt you pile" cos he looked so freaking town in that game and he is exhibiting none of the same play here. I had some niggles (and said them!) but then I died. he was a usurper on waffles which I think ultimately kind of led to his downfall. I have seen molla as scum in lord taters and it was different play than ag, but he feels more like town here like in the em micro theme game.

I am not interested in lynching molla at this time.

pants is more of a townread based on trickster's gut (I think it has taken some work to get there) and victor is a townread for that as well. I like how trickster is poeing things out. I am trusting it at this point and backing it with I can see glimmers of town flail in both of them. need to iron things out with trickster tho.

I want kdc to meltdown at some point but he probs won't cos he is town and unlikely to be run up. his meltdowns are pretty funny. like he curses and gets all into it, it is pretty awsum.

[Jeesh5]

I agree with Pie on this. I'm not sure why Bane straight up believed the claim and went for the "VT's shouldn't claim, so you're scum". It ignores the obvious alternative that Ms. Kaze is bluffing, but he seems to be pretty convinced that they aren't. Plus the "if you're town its still good for you to die".... oh man.

there kind of is never a good situ ever where some1 softclaims vt.

[Jeesh5]

I think trickster might agree with this

VOTE: kazemara

waiting to talk with him tho

[Ms Kazekirimara]

VOTE: jeesh

[Ms Kazekirimara]

I don't care about my read on you, earlier. That's nothing but a scum-claim coming from you mollie

[Kcdaspot]

point it out?

[Bane]

VOTE: jeesh

That OMGUS though

[Ms Kazekirimara]

the.... vote?

[Ms Kazekirimara]

Pedit: what of it?

there is absolutely nothing in my play that should make mollie think "holy shit, mara is scum", and she should be thinking the exact opposite. It's blatantly obvious that I have been making posts that would bring pretty much nothing but attention to my slot, and I have never had the guts to do that as scum, because of what my mindset tends to be as scum, town, and PR

[Ms Kazekirimara]

the reason for bulba town is also pretty shit because starting fights isn't something bulba, as a person, isn't scared of and it's the kind of thing that would leak to both alignments

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bulba

[BBmolla]

Your vote is dumb Kazekirimara

[BBmolla]

KCDA is probably down for what it's worth.

[BBmolla]

town*

[Ms Kazekirimara]

because... the reason behind it is essentially burden of proficiency?

[Ms Kazekirimara]

Because, I get that, as a reason, it generally isn't thought of as anything decent, but meta wise, I think it's good enough in this case

[Metal Sonic]

softclaimnig VT is a scumtell.

hardclaiming VT is a towntell


what did ms kaze do ? dont bother to check

[Ms Kazekirimara]

Haven't you guys figured out we're an innocent child yet? :3

[Dr Pants]

i dont want to take part in a Jeesh Ms Kaze battle right now

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PeregrenV
Quit lurking!