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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 10:54 am

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Although, tbh, I didn't know that he didn't also pass the gun.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 11:00 am

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Ah ok, I get it know, I had that wrong as well.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 11:08 am

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In post 422, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 419, Lowercase wrote:Does it make people into their picks?
No, it doesn't seem to work that way.

And to reiterate, I haven't used it yet. At all.
To revisit this, it actually does (in my case) turn people into their pick. I said that it doesn't seem that way due to the wording in the Role PM. After the fact, though, it clearly does.

In post 450, Nobody Special wrote:It didn't occur to me until now, but: I have a gun, but I don't have the laser battery that powers it. It's non-functional, but it's a gun. Thus, I believe there's a gunsmith.
If the gun and the transformer were the same, why would I not have thought to mention the gun?


In post 463, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 459, Juls wrote:Wait NS, does your gun give the abilities or is that completely separate?
No, the device (which has a name that I'm not saying) that 'does' my night action is
completely separate
from the gun.



Now, if it's a Culting mechanism, why can I use it on myself?
I tried my very best to
clearly state
that the transformer and the gun were completely discrete objects. Apparently, I failed. :roll:

In post 594, Nobody Special wrote:Oh, ffs.

I didn't include a wincon because I
thought
I'd already said I was town. I win if all mafia players are dead and at least one town player is alive (paraphrased to avoid modkill).

Also, the gun is missing the battery. Apparently, the missing battery is due to some glitch in the transformer doohickey.


The gun (and missing battery) are completely separate from the transformer doohickey.

Also, I am from the future. And my job (as it were) is to fix faults in the interdimensional continuum (again, paraphrased).
The bolded is indicative that the gun and the transformer are separate. Really, this is getting old.
....what?



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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 11:09 am

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In post 696, Lowercase wrote:He doesn't pass the gun, he passes his role.
I don't pass my role. I pass the transformer, and the ability that it has.
....what?



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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 11:10 am

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Yeah, I got that the transformer and the gun were separate I just didn't really get which of the two you pass on.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 11:25 am

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Juls, your presence is needed.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:01 pm

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First, let me start with this:

Vote: Cho


That vote switch post hammer was the scummiest thing I have seen in a LONG time. 10 minutes after I hammered....10 frigging minutes. I even gave an intent post plus a 5 minute warning an hour before deadline. Then she switches? I have wanted to place this vote for over a week. How is it that Cho, the biggest lurker in the game, pops in 10 minutes after the hammer and casts a vote on the opposing wagon?

Second, I will rage about this more after the game but a moderator's actions and/or inactions should never affect the course of the game. In this case, Empking's failure to actively pursue a replacement changed the course of the game. I have never seen a mod NOT extend deadline when a replacement is needed. To act like it's the town's fault that a replacement isn't found is ridiculous.

Now, on to today....

@LoudMouthLee - I am of the philosophy that early in the game a lynch is more useful than a no lynch. I didn't want to lynch Zephryus without hearing from the slot but I did find him scummy early on and I did find his disappearance scummy since he continued to play on the site and didn't appear to replace out anywhere else. I would have much preferred a NS lynch but with an hour to deadline that wasn't happening.

@Lowercase - Why in the world would you target LML? I wouldn't have necessarily targeted NS or Fish but I would have definitely targeted someone like Cho instead! LML is one of the towniest players here, I didn't need a track to confirm that.

I can
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Also @LoudMouthLee, do you doubt Fish's claim? I don't because it was confirmed by Lowercase. I don't know if it is a good idea for Fish to reveal who he targets for the duration of the game. It will likely give scum information that they don't necessarily need to have.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:08 pm

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unvote


I need a drink. Rereading.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:09 pm

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What's up?

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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:10 pm

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@juls: what does the transformer do? You obviously have an ability that goes along with it.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:11 pm

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In post 706, Juls wrote:First, let me start with this:

Vote: Cho


That vote switch post hammer was the scummiest thing I have seen in a LONG time. 10 minutes after I hammered....10 frigging minutes. I even gave an intent post plus a 5 minute warning an hour before deadline. Then she switches? I have wanted to place this vote for over a week. How is it that Cho, the biggest lurker in the game, pops in 10 minutes after the hammer and casts a vote on the opposing wagon?
I missed Nobody Special's vote and didn't realize it was a hammer already. Sorry!~

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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:21 pm

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@cho- Juls was the hammer. Do you even know what's going on?
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:21 pm

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Also @Juls- who is cho in bed with, if cho is scum?
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:22 pm

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I disagree that LML was the towniest player until I got the track result. Feel free to disagree I guess. My thoughts were that Cho/LML were the most likely scum with Cho my top scum read and LML my second. I wanted to track someone with about 50% chance of being scum (my exact thoughts were that I wanted to reduce the Shannon entropy of the game state as much as possible). In retrospect, I was probably being arrogant about the 50% and Cho would have been a better target. If it makes you feel any better, I certainly feel much better about my grasp of the game now.

Additionally, I didn't want to track a claimed PR because if I tracked a scum PR, they would likely act even if they didn't carry out the NK which would confirm scum except in the case of NS or Fish. (Also what I already said about difficult to fake actions. I'm pretty confident in NS-town at this point.)
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:23 pm

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I know there's a lot of talk about gift-giving or something along those Power Role lines. I don't quite understand it, though. Who's giving what to who, and why is it an issue?

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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:24 pm

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NS had a carbon-copy of Fish's role as a passable object which was given to Juls.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:33 pm

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In post 715, Lowercase wrote:NS had a carbon-copy of Fish's role as a passable object which was given to Juls.
Stop answering for Juls and NS please.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:37 pm

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It's a question about game facts. Besides, I didn't even know that was targeted at Juls.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:38 pm

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It is a device that I can pass and/or use on any player (including myself) living or dead. If I use it I must pass it. It does not indicate what using it does to the target. I did confirm with the mod that you can use it on one person and pass it to another.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:42 pm

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In post 709, LoudmouthLee wrote:@juls: what does the transformer do? You obviously have an ability that goes along with it.
Was this not clear?
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:43 pm

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Oh, I was answering Cho's question. Didn't see yours.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 12:44 pm

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Ah yeah, there it is. Sorry, bro.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 2:41 pm

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In post 694, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 691, Formerfish wrote:NS switches people with things from another dimension and has a gun to pass on.
No, no, NO. FFS, do you people not
read
the words I type? :roll:

I have a gun. It requires a battery, which
I do not have.


Also (differently, separately,
not the fucking gun),
I have a Transformer that makes people into a thing from another dimension.

Last night, I used it on myself, and became Mr.Darcy (one of my picks). I am still Town. Also, apparently, I have a sort-of almost-but-slightly-different PGO ability.

I passed it to Juls.
I'm calling bullshit on this. You became Mr. Darcy? Like the main guy from Pride & Prejudice? The same guy I had sent in as my choice? You need to die and I am going to help you get there.

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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 3:33 pm

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Fish, remind me, can you use your ability on yourself? I'm too lazy to search for it right now.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2014 3:59 pm

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My role pm doesn't state that I can. It only says that I can target someone else. I've asked if I can target the same person more than once and was told yes, and if my ability would affect dead people and was told no.
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