Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:

actually, nix that. re-looking, i think there's a chance it may be a philosophical difference.
the empty prods for "content" are pretty annoying, though. seriously. if you want an opinion on someone specific, ask.

Ok I need to catch up. As a mental note, this ika looks different from both town and scum ika just skimming the thread. ika usually is more random troll to get reactions (town) or lurktastic (scum). This could be considered the former but I need to buckle down and read.

you're a meta-ite? neat.

VOTE: DrPants

the reaction of "well where were you a week ago?" instead of actually explaining to me why he thinks Snork is a scum white knight is pretty telling. especially considering one of his "sticking points" on Snork is that he "won't explain" why he's scum.

[Snork]

bubba your post reminded me ...

Titus, what you think of the snork/pants? TvT or TvS

This is significant.

Can anyone tell me why?

[Antihero]

shame it wont happen to me, ill claim much before my lynch happen and my gambit will expose a lot of scummyness on a lot of people.

I'll be nice and claim at l-2 as well. Im sure a lot of people will be revaulating reads though.

p-edit: one sec bubba

lolz softclaim funtime

my inner DGB wants to revote now

[Snork]

Anti have you read street racers? Same mod. ika claimed "very powerful townie".

[Antihero]

i didn't unvote because of the softclaim, i only saw it after i posted

rest assured, the softclaim means jack shit to me

[ika]

ika you're not even making your own opinions, you're only asking everyoneelse for theirs.

Im sorting people. I have yet to see anything good from you so plz go on more about how i have been doing nothing when im activly trying to sort everyone out form whats TvT and SvT

"actively sorting everyone from TVT and TVS"

First off the only way to sort that is if there are 2 people going head to head. The only people "going head to head" is Snork and Pants.

titus and anti had their own

Secondly who do you think is scum, or do you really have nothing on Day 2?

you, shroom, anti, and possibly titus

ok question hypothetical for everyone:

if there is one scum in between SSK and shroom. Who would it be and why?

My gears are turning and i want to try to sort as much as i can out atm

right now this is where i want our lynch pool to be in:

reinoe

(7): Burning_Earth, HighShroomish,

GreyICE

, Dr Pants, bubbajack8, ika, MafiaSSK

My guts say that there is almost no way this is a 100% town wagon. Theres bound to be

at least one scum

in here and i figure they are in the begining middle or end of the wagon

So 1 scum on the wagon? Or 1 in each section of the wagon?

read bolded, at least i tried to divi it up

also I like the you on the end (:

as town or as scum? what about the rest?

Snork I was falling off suspicions of you Pre-sitedownage, now they're pretty much gone.

care to elaborate?

p-edit: yes anti, softclaim funtimes are indeed the best. If anyone know how to read my softclaims (or even my hints) they will know what im up to.

scince you want spcifics, can you do shroom and bubba.

p-edit 2: i didnt claim it here now did i? theres a diffrence

[Dr Pants]

the reaction of "well where were you a week ago?" instead of actually explaining to me why he thinks Snork is a scum white knight is pretty telling. especially considering one of his "sticking points" on Snork is that he "won't explain" why he's scum.

I've told you why I think Snork is scum. Just cause you say "your reasons dont make sense" doesn't mean I'm hiding what my reasons are. In fact I've been completely transparent. Asking "where have you been" is relevant since apparently you're voting me because my deductive skills suck. They've sucked all game! so why is it a problem that they suck now?

I'll give you a hint: I have a scheme going on right now. trust me when I tell you that I am not getting lynched. maybe I'll claim at l-2 as well...

Bring it on.

[Antihero]

well, i'm pretty sure you can figure out what i think of shroom.
there's a good chance bubba's town.

[Dr Pants]

excellent. then lets hop on the wagon and vote out shroom

[Antihero]

the reaction of "well where were you a week ago?" instead of actually explaining to me why he thinks Snork is a scum white knight is pretty telling. especially considering one of his "sticking points" on Snork is that he "won't explain" why he's scum.

I've told you why I think Snork is scum. Just cause you say "your reasons dont make sense" doesn't mean I'm hiding what my reasons are. In fact I've been completely transparent. Asking "where have you been" is relevant since apparently you're voting me because my deductive skills suck. They've sucked all game! so why is it a problem that they suck now?

I'll give you a hint: I have a scheme going on right now. trust me when I tell you that I am not getting lynched. maybe I'll claim at l-2 as well...

Bring it on.

ok, confbias isn't scummy. that's just... people. people do that.

but you seem to have this conviction that snork is scummy because he stuck up for renioe Day 1. why? i thought renoie was a piece of shit day 1 wagon too. it was. objectively. it was.
that's why i suspected Greyice. greyice is a kickass player and i thought he should know better than get sucked into the renoie lynch.

to be more specific, renoie was a n00b lynch. he had all the superficial "textbook" "scumtells", but in terms of a solid case, there wasn't anything there.

now, i can't get to the bottom of why you're insisting that all that's not true.
ego?
scum?

i don't know. you won't tell me.

[Dr Pants]

what are you talking about? If reinoe's scum tells were superficial "textbook" tells then doesn't this still come down to inexperience on my part? why are you expecting A-level work from me? I'm doing my part by saying who I think is scum and why I think they are scum. As a veteran then you're job should be to see what I am saying and tell me what is wrong with my arguments on a fundamental level. having bad arguments does not equate to being scum.

Trust me when I say I am beyond confused by your stance. Its like you wont except the fact that my play is genuine, and you're trying to somehow catch me in something that isn't there.

and yes ego is a thing for me.

and what am I not telling you? Im telling you everything you are asking about!

[Antihero]

and yes ego is a thing for me.

new factor at play here
UNVOTE:

a second

[Antihero]

what are you talking about? If reinoe's scum tells were superficial "textbook" tells then doesn't this still come down to inexperience on my part? why are you expecting A-level work from me? I'm doing my part by saying who I think is scum and why I think they are scum. As a veteran then you're job should be to see what I am saying and tell me what is wrong with my arguments on a fundamental level. having bad arguments does not equate to being scum.

Trust me when I say I am beyond confused by your stance. Its like you wont except the fact that my play is genuine, and you're trying to somehow catch me in something that isn't there.

and yes ego is a thing for me.

and what am I not telling you? Im telling you everything you are asking about!

makes some sense

there's a little trouble because you don't turn around and go... "jeez, what happened..." it's "well screw snork, how could he have known renoie would flip town? only scum could've known that because that lynch was OK dammit!"

ego might explain that though.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Antihero (1): Titus
Dr Pants (3): Snork, MafiaSSK
HighShroomish (2): Dr Pants, ika
ika (3): HighShroomish, Burning_Earth, bubbajack8
Not voting (3): goodmorning, Kitoari, Antihero

With

11

players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch a player.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-06-07 18:25:24).

mod vote count

I am not on this site 24/7. Please be patient.

[ika]

mod im sure bubba was voting me and not self

also i dont know when you are exactly around so theres that, ty though

[Burning_Earth]

Sorry guys

Reading. I promise much content tommorow (hold me to that ok)

[bubbajack8]

titus and anti had their own

Congrats sorting 4/11 players.

you, shroom, anti, and possibly titus

Reasons.

read bolded, at least i tried to divi it up

What Everyone is laughing about is you said there's one scum on the wagon and you think he's in the middle, beginning, or end. Basically, on the wagon.

as town or as scum? what about the rest?

Scum, and by your logic there's only one scum on the wagon.

[StrangerCoug]

mod im sure bubba was voting me and not self

Fixed.

[goodmorning]

Alllright.
1. Snork looks Town.
2. bubba might also be Town.
3. I'm working on ISOs. Site downtime has caused me some issues. Expect more from me in the morning, because I had orientation today and it sucked utterly.

[Burning_Earth]

ok question hypothetical for everyone:

if there is one scum in between SSK and shroom. Who would it be and why?

My gears are turning and i want to try to sort as much as i can out atm

right now this is where i want our lynch pool to be in:

reinoe

(7): Burning_Earth, HighShroomish,

GreyICE

, Dr Pants, bubbajack8, ika, MafiaSSK

My guts say that there is almost no way this is a 100% town wagon. Theres bound to be at least one scum in here and i figure they are in the begining middle or end of the wagon

so for me the 3 pairs are

BE/shroom for begining

DR/Buuba for middle

me/SSK for end

yes im excluding a lot of other players from possible lynch but i want to focus in here atm in sorting this out. Would scum look to be on begining/middle/end of train?

Everyone in each pairing if somone had to be scum who would you suspect? If you think both in a pairing are town state why.

Whoa Im glad I'm voting you

[Burning_Earth]

Oh been said

(The post also pairs people together for bad reasons though)

[Dr Pants]

idk though, a vote pool of you, shroomish, and bubba seems pretty non-townie

[Antihero]

Sorry guys

Reading. I promise much content tommorow (hold me to that ok)

this is me

holding you to it

[Dr Pants]

@ anit: do you think titus is scum?

[Titus]

Anti is scum. The whole ego rationale is the poorest figleaf I have ever seen while playing mafia. "I think everything you do is scummy but you're an egoist so that makes it ok." That's a paraphrase. It works as a discredit of Anti (too caught up in himself) and leaves a vote to vote anti. Anti votes a player and then waits for someone to say no...and his vote winds up elsewhere.

BE, he needs to shape up, sub out or be lynvhed. He's technically a nullread which I don't like. If Anti wasn't telegraphing a BE compromise, I could be convinced to do this. Rule 7: Don't follow scumreads unless you are manipulating them.

Highshroomish/MafiaSSK...same as BE but no Anti telegraphing

Pants/Snork...At least one of the two is probably town. I see scum pushing this dichotomy hard to create division. If one is scum, scum create this situation to ensure the partner is less likely to get lynched. If both are town, then scum have greatly pushed those wagons to take off imo. I don't want to vote either. I strongly think Pants is town. Snork is a gun to my head town. His recent postingweakened my townread on him.

Bubbajack, I will need to compare him but he has a snide confidence in 591 particularly. Midrange town lean.

GM, Obvious town.

Kitorari,

is being replaced right

Ika, gun to my head...town. His post on the whole scum's on the wagon seems to be a reaction test. Yet I can't see what it would test if anything. I am not cracking ika's plan that makes me feel iffy about him.