In post 7652, CarbonFiber wrote:Oh, and also Muffin's flow bussing theory about Cephrir and AP re-inforces my belief in Fox/AP team besides all of their rubbish about how I am AP's buddy.
I remember this existence of this theory. I don't hold any weight in meta arguments because I don't research other players' metas to create town/scum models of them.
In post 7653, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:UNVOTE:
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VOTE: CarbonFiber
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I don't like how eager he's been to get a lynch on 3 different players in rapid succession and you shouldn't either.
Which 3 people?
In post 7659, AngryPidgeon wrote:Well I backtracked away from it because I dont particularly feel like mislynching myself. JSU backed away from it because they either have an innocent result on me or are committed to faking one regardless.
Why would you even consider that this was the argument I was making? I was referring to the whole 1v1 scenario from the previous day where Katsuki CC'ed your night action, indicated zero acknowledgement of being roleblocked (and I'm pretty sure he stated that he KNEW his action succeeded), and JSU proceeding to defend you with his 'investigative action that can only track town.'
I don't know how you guys moved the idea of a wagon away from you (because despite me saying I wanted to read up but I've been continuing to neglect this game so I can stay on top of the games I caught up in elsewhere), but if it's just 'OMG I DON'T KNOW WHY KATS WOULD DO THAT AND LIE' after rushing that lynch through in your little 1v1 CC spat, then you should be getting lynched. The only reason you should even be considered town right now is if people believe in a role that interferes with Kats' role that doesn't directly cause it to fail (something like a bus driver).
If you're not town (I don't think you're town) or a godfather with a night action, then JSU should be getting lynched as well.
In post 7663, AngryPidgeon wrote:RG claimed to be roleblocked. Stalin claimed to be roleblocked (and is pretty confirmed town + has a role that can be sort of verified blocked.) I get an innocent result on Stalin. JSU has CONFIRMED MY ACTION and CONFIRMED MY CLAIM. Your belief that JSU is town and I somehow am not is so mindblowingly bad I cant believe it. I had to either believe that there are (3?) Mafia Roleblockers in the game and blocked all of Stalin, RG, and Katsuki for Katsuki to somehow be telling the truth in this situation...or Katsuki was just making shit up. I KNOW my role succeeded. Katsuki was lying. You can go ahead and rectify that in your headspace somehow, but you are explicitly ignoring that I can, would, and DID do exactly what I did as town. If you think JSU is town then Katsuki is STILL confirmed roleblocked as is Stalin. So this sort of takes me back around to RG who are also claiming to have been blocked on N2. Right. Thats not suspicious at all.
Like seriously, for you to continue this argument of me 'lying about being roleblocked' despite your 'confirmed town-beliffery read' indicating that they were inclined to believe I was roleblocked because they received a similar message about their 'role failing' despite me explicitly claiming that first requires ridiculousness of a whole new level.
And Beli considering I'm scum for this is weird (I actually don't know if he's been considering me, and I interpreted PV's post as his for some reason) and he's either really detached towards this game and doesn't give a fuck to realize what the fuck is happening with this argument, or he's scum with you/JSU with your 'let's confirm each other as town' circlejerk and their slot was just following along with me being roleblocked earlier.
I don't mind you claiming. But I did target you last night (and I'm not going to say what happened).
In post 7680, AngryPidgeon wrote:Did RG claim that their role fails on certain flavor? I vaguely recall some spec about that, but I cant remember. How likely is it that Katsuki was redirected to them that Day?
My role doesn't fail on certain flavor that I'm aware of. I do remember saying something along these lines. And I'm fairly certain Katsuki's roleblock didn't redirect to me.
In post 7681, AngryPidgeon wrote:I've been doing a silly side project (fun quiz/survey to come?) trying to map personality types to mastin's 5 'town roles' she posted in MD a while back. I have you down as a probable analyzer. Maybe you are more of a planner? You seem to direct for that. You need to be ESTJ for me to feel happy about the state of my project, sorry
I believe I fall under E - extremely problematic.
In post 7689, CarbonFiber wrote:Brian, trust me, if you get even two other people to vote AP, I'll join you on that wagon. But right now, we need to consider viable alternatives.
Town's being retarded. My other alternatives are Nacho and JSU (confbiased and I haven't read anything I promised I was going to read; and from what I've read, nothing's telling me it would be worthwhile to look at when AP is right there, being scum, right along with JSU and possibly Nacho).
I really need a ;tldr. Preferably on why people refuse to lynch AP and how this wagon ended up on the Fox. I'd also appreciate any knowledge explaining why some people are okay with lynching Nacho.
I also feel adamantly opposed to a Fox lynch right now just because AP/JSU want it to go through.
In post 7707, Titan wrote:So, I wonder if just not caring about this game much anymore means my paranoia is relieved.
I feel like this is a completely fair argument for you to make. And I do feel bad for the townies that have bothered to make a conscious effort at winning this game. Especially since my contributions thus far have been terrible.
But if AP's scum and he gets away for some shit argument this game, then town never deserved to win anyways.
In post 7711, CarbonFiber wrote:1) DV's response to me suspecting him was the most ridiculously scummy thing in this game. He immediately casts doubt onto his townread of me. Then does a massive "re-evaluation" where he goes back through my initial posts, justifies his townread and then goes through more posts to beautifully show how his read has morphed into a scumread. All this happens right after I push him. It is bullshit. It is a presentation that is made to look good and like a thoughtful townie going back to consider every possibility. It feels extremely unnatural and faked. The timing of it doesn't feel genuine either.
2) DV has accused me of not taking a leadership role this game day. This is bullshit because a) I have been trying my best to get their slot lynched and b) My alignment couldn't have changed from D1/D2 where he claims that I was trying to lead the town.
I can neither confrim or deny any of this, don't know if it's indicative of scum, but think you're town anyways. I might still end up voting that slot, though (I just find it extremely unfair to them that I've been ignoring their slot's posting for most of this game).
In post 7712, The Fox and the Hound wrote:Magenta, Nacho (despite what DV thinks honestly) and CF are all scum, I will lynch any of them, someone please just lead me in one of those directions
Why are JSU/AP not mentioned as possible scumreads?
Like, anyone that doesn't think they could be scum (and scum together) really should be stating why in thread.
*There also might be a random 'f' in this post. I have no idea where it is.
