Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[Dr Pants]

sweet jesus anti what is with this breakdown?

a) I'm not town leader, no one listens to me anyways
b) I'm not scum, so reading Titus v you as town v scum makes perfect sense, I don't see how now that I'm voting you suddenly Titus becomes a town read for you
c) So what if Ika and I have the same reaction? I dont have a good read on Titus, but Ika is definitely town.

Where did this all come from? Its like you suddenly claimed unnecessarily and now you're blowing up for no reason. It doesn't follow from any of your previous posts at all.

pedit: as much as I would love to get this sorted I can compromise on Shroomish

[Antihero]

bubba's seems like a competent guy who could be really useful if he's town.

he's a good target for the investigatives and can either be a free scum lynch or a pretty kickass conf-townie. win-win.

gun to my head, though, i'd say he's town.

[Antihero]

Where did this all come from? Its like you suddenly claimed unnecessarily and now you're blowing up for no reason. It doesn't follow from any of your previous posts at all.

right. because in my previous posts, i was suppressing the urge to scream.

it's reached critical level and i have officially lost my shit, though. congrats. you have front row seats to the shit show.

[Dr Pants]

within the trifecta of fail, i think the one who has the best chance of being scum is pants. he wants to whine about how being wrong isn't a scumtell, but he wants to immediately go after titus for....

being wrong about me

?

the back and forth between you and titus can only be Town v Town if you both just happen to be always paranoid of each other. When it was me and Reinoe, I was the one doing all the talking and pressuring. It was basically a 1 sided conversation. You and Titus however, had this great back and forth where you both were on the offensive and applying pressure.

Something else that's telling: given how much you v Titus there has been today, why hasn't a wagon formed before now? and now that a wagon has formed, why isn't scum jumping at the chance to get you, who claimed a town PR, out?

[Antihero]

b) I'm not scum, so reading Titus v you as town v scum makes perfect sense, I don't see how now that I'm voting you suddenly Titus becomes a town read for you

WHY DOES IT MAKE PERFECT SENSE?

instead of saying "i think antihero is scum and titus is town I REALLY TRUST TITUS TITUS IS AN UNEQUIVOCAL TOWNREAD" you say "Titus and Antihero is TvS and i will 'find out' which one".

seriously, having this

conditional townread

that you can conveniently go back on tomorrow is

REALLY FUCKING SHADY

.

you're not trying to figure shit out. you're trying to mealy mouth around and line up lynches.

[ika]

Where did this all come from? Its like you suddenly claimed unnecessarily and now you're blowing up for no reason. It doesn't follow from any of your previous posts at all.

@anti: this is kinda why we are all at you right now. You basicly threw a huge flail out. If your town and frustrated. heres what you need to to.

1) stop trying to lead and scream "Im right your wrong"
2) step away from the game and cool off and come back in a calmer state
3) after that come back with an updated read list (even if its the same just state it)

I can deal with titus on bias mode agianst you. Pant seems open to trying to sort everything out but you just faliing up in arms is not how we cna do it (TBH i do it a lot)

pedit: thats a good idea but not many have said mcuh about it. I would like to bar further discussion about that untill other give imput.

heres how i see the claim:

becomes super frustrated: comes out and screams PR and yells at everyone who threatens him, null at best but i see more town motive then scum motive out of that.

Wouldnt it be easier for scums to merly just shoot him? Also we have GM throy about "leashing" him.

[Antihero]

the back and forth between you and titus can only be Town v Town if you both just happen to be always paranoid of each other. When it was me and Reinoe, I was the one doing all the talking and pressuring. It was basically a 1 sided conversation. You and Titus however, had this great back and forth where you both were on the offensive and applying pressure.

dude, titus hardcore distanced from me in one of the scumgames i mentioned previously (i would say "bussed" but i never actually ended up getting lynched, but she pushed me almost the whole goddamn time).

and what you're describing are

player dynamics

i'm not a defensive guy. i will (almost) always be on the offensive. i think titus is the same way.

[Antihero]

@anti: this is kinda why we are all at you right now. You basicly threw a huge flail out. If your town and frustrated. heres what you need to to.

ok.... i'm actually to that stage by now.

(fwiw, titus, i'm sorry about saying to go back the newbie queue, that was shitty. you're still wrong, and i'm still frustrated with you.)

[Antihero]

Something else that's telling: given how much you v Titus there has been today, why hasn't a wagon formed before now? and now that a wagon has formed, why isn't scum jumping at the chance to get you, who claimed a town PR, out?

well, i claimed at around 5:00 this morning and most players

SIMPLY HAVEN'T FUCKING BEEN ON

your fail logic is more telling than anything

[ika]

anti take some time to cool off and then come back, your letting your emotions dictate your actions.

Me being a player who is more emotion but knows how to use it to my advantage knows when its no longer really alignemnt and jsut spewing nonsense.

Take a 12 hr or so off this tread to cool down and come back

p-edit: thats titus for you, she does not bus she distances hard as possible. from all scum buddies. Me and titus have talked about our metas on skype before and in skype mafia games. thats why i see unaligned pairs in you 2.

If you let me do my thing i can easily get titus to stop taking offence on you and seek a compermise. so do me a favor and take some time off to reveover.

you flaiing around is not going to help sorting you 2 out

p-edit2: it happens to all of us, we can talk more about it post game. right now i want to hear all other players imputs on the entire discussion that just went off. something is starting to make me think scums are letting us implode into each other.

[ika]

Something else that's telling: given how much you v Titus there has been today, why hasn't a wagon formed before now? and now that a wagon has formed, why isn't scum jumping at the chance to get you, who claimed a town PR, out?

well, i claimed at around 5:00 this morning and most players

SIMPLY HAVEN'T FUCKING BEEN ON

your fail logic is more telling than anything

Pant: dont respond, we dont need this pissing contest to go on further.

lets jsut leave it at agree to disagree atm

[Dr Pants]

what do you think about where the shroomish wagon went? is it a problem that SSK got on the wagon?

pedit: im fine with moving discussions elsewhere, its probably better or ill just end up going full tunnel

[Antihero]

you flaiing around is not going to help sorting you 2 out

ok, then

homework for you:

1. realize that the core assumption of (there's one scum in Titus and Antihero) is fallacious
2. discard this assumption
3. eat a warm plate of spaghetti
4. be happy

[Antihero]

Pant: dont respond, we dont need this pissing contest to go on further.

not a pissing contest. i think i'm making a valid point.

pants wants to use the fact that i haven't been lynched yet as a scumtell, but that's bullshit since i just claimed recently and not everyone has had a chance to react to the claim yet.

[ika]

im heading off to work i'll mule over this stuff

titus/any other player if you come and read this i want a full on update on everything of your thoughts and this.

@anti: point or not, FMPOV its becoming more and more like a pissing contest to me so thats wht i said to put "agree to disaggre" and end it there for now

[Snork]

holy shit wtf happened...

first of all - titus is not scum and neither is anti imo. there are scum votes on anti though. the sheer speed of that wagon even coming into existence is a huge red flag. probably ika.

and just a heads up -

temporary v/la due to computer fuckery - we lost one our laptops and it's in repair, which means my other half has appropriated the remaining laptop and i will not have as much access until it comes back.

[HighShroomish]

Hey, hey, ika and pants. Yeah, you two. Answer my question please.

[Dr Pants]

Spoiler:

@MOD- Are you sure it only takes three votes to lynch?

Well what did you think I was gonna do, B_E? That was highly unnecessary. Fucking opportunistic of you.
Pants is grasping at straws that aren't even there.
Titus' entry to today was weird as fuck to me.
Ika is pinging in every possibly way for me.
VOTE: IKA

@ika
Your continual push for RQS at the beginning
You say you have a plan, tell everyone just to know that you have a plan, and expect us to trust you, and I just caught your "crumb".
Your post seem to have a "superiority" attitude.
Titus' entry was weird, but he has good reasoning for voting which I like.


Why was Titus' entry weird as fuck? Person who said I was going off gut and some other shit- Yeah, this was gut. It felt weird. My gut is either spot on, or way off. I'm thinking it's 100% accurate.

Girls, you're all pretty.

Bubba is town, and Anti stop fucking misrepping people. I for one am not gonna vote every single person I say might be scum, and I doubt most people would. He also never said Pants was a town read. And if you want to get into semantics, he had Pants as (not scum=town) town in that first post and he said the same thing about pants (didn't see him as scum=town) in the second post.

*sigh* Why must multiple people in one game be grasping at nothing?

these are your main posts for today. you offer up a lot of opinions but with no arguments backing them, your reasons for voting Ika seem forced, and you didn't back up your statement on Titus, instead claiming that her entry was "weird as fuck" for gut, which is essentially meaningless to everyone else. in short, you're posting content with out providing any substance for town to engage with.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Antihero (2): Titus, Dr Pants, ika
Dr Pants (1): Snork
HighShroomish (2): Antihero, MafiaSSK
ika (3): HighShroomish, Burning_Earth, bubbajack8
Not voting (2): goodmorning, Kitoari

With

11

players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch a player.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-06-07 18:25:24).

[Snork]

Antihero (2): Titus,

Dr Pants, ika

Dr Pants (1): Snork
HighShroomish (2): Antihero, MafiaSSK
ika (3): HighShroomish, Burning_Earth, bubbajack8
Not voting (2): goodmorning, Kitoari

dat counter wagon

VOTE: ika

Titus stop confbiasing please.

[Dr Pants]

well ika did say plan enacts when he gets to L-2

i guess now we wait and see

[Dr Pants]

also you do realize that you joined a wagon that

a) consists entirely of people who were on the Reinoe lynch
b) is basically comprised of the lurkers (minus ssk)

there is definitely scum on that wagon

[Snork]

also you do realize that you joined a wagon that

a) consists entirely of people who were on the Reinoe lynch
b) is basically comprised of the lurkers (minus ssk)

there is definitely scum on that wagon

uh...... majority of the player list was on the reinoe wagon. how the hell do you think it happened.... and none of those people qualify as lurkers.

There's scum on the anti wagon. It sprung up out of nowhere the moment ika started collecting votes, and that's cold, hard facts you can't ignore or deny.

[Dr Pants]

the only person who can be scum on the anti wagon is titus, which makes it a much better wagon than one of you, shroom, bubba, and B_E

it had nothing to do with ika at all, it was because of anti's unnecessary claim which acts as an alibi in case of a tracker/watcher, and his following breakdown.

plus, it didn't start quickly at all. titus was on anti basically all of today, I voted anti after I saw the claim, and Ika followed.

you need a fact checker im afraid

[Antihero]

it had nothing to do with ika at all, it was because of anti's unnecessary claim which acts as an alibi in case of a tracker/watcher, and his following breakdown.

if someone tracked me to grey, they would have piped up by now. this is shitlogic and you full well know it.

VOTE: DrPants

come on back Snork