Tales of You (Endgame)

[Titan]

I will catch up tonight, hopefully, but I'll be interested if anyone claims to have been blocked last night. >_>

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm more pissed that you didn't find him obvtown after day 1, more than anything else.

PV? I mean I guess. I correctly identified that he was lying about his role, I just didn't make the leap that he was town and trying to draw an NK/roleblock, so fuck me.

I WAS 100% right that all his crap about who he targeted and should have targeted was dodgy.

[Just Sheep Us]

PA/Clyton claimed something. Outing right away was probably a mistake.

Didn't investigate RG b/c they're the scum we lynch next. I was wrong about Nacho, which means on of my FoxHound/penguin reads is wrong (I'm very high certainty on Magenta and RG at this point)

[Just Sheep Us]

I'm more pissed that you didn't find him obvtown after day 1, more than anything else.

PV? I mean I guess. I correctly identified that he was lying about his role, I just didn't make the leap that he was town and trying to draw an NK/roleblock, so fuck me.

I WAS 100% right that all his crap about who he targeted and should have targeted was dodgy.

I'll explain to you after the game why none of that actually mattered, given other theory points. It's not really pertinent now, since you fucked up. We should focus on lynching Orc/Mara right now, getting Brian/NS tomorrow, and by then having the last scum pinned down b/w {Tammy, Foxhound, penguin}

[Just Sheep Us]

I will catch up tonight, hopefully, but I'll be interested if anyone claims to have been blocked last night. >_>

It's possible that I was blocked.

[Just Sheep Us]

Clarified with Cabd, but failure b/c replica, role block, and no result b/c someone didn't go anywhere return the same result.

[AngryPidgeon]

I will catch up tonight, hopefully, but I'll be interested if anyone claims to have been blocked last night. >_>

It's possible that I was blocked.

Is that what you were confirming with Cabd? (That you have no way of knowing?)

Im gonna guess that PV was blocked if anyone. (Especially assuming Magenat actually is scum).

P-edit: Ya, expected / 10. troll mod is made of troll and wacky roles.

[Tammy]

I'm more pissed that you didn't find him obvtown after day 1, more than anything else.

PV? I mean I guess. I correctly identified that he was lying about his role, I just didn't make the leap that he was town and trying to draw an NK/roleblock, so fuck me.

I WAS 100% right that all his crap about who he targeted and should have targeted was dodgy.

I'll explain to you after the game why none of that actually mattered, given other theory points. It's not really pertinent now, since you fucked up. We should focus on lynching Orc/Mara right now, getting Brian/NS tomorrow, and by then having the last scum pinned down b/w {Tammy, Foxhound, penguin}

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

[Titan]

I'm more pissed that you didn't find him obvtown after day 1, more than anything else.

PV? I mean I guess. I correctly identified that he was lying about his role, I just didn't make the leap that he was town and trying to draw an NK/roleblock, so fuck me.

I WAS 100% right that all his crap about who he targeted and should have targeted was dodgy.

I'll explain to you after the game why none of that actually mattered, given other theory points. It's not really pertinent now, since you fucked up. We should focus on lynching Orc/Mara right now, getting Brian/NS tomorrow, and by then having the last scum pinned down b/w {Tammy, Foxhound, penguin}

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

Memememe

[Titan]

I will catch up tonight, hopefully, but I'll be interested if anyone claims to have been blocked last night. >_>

It's possible that I was blocked.

I made someone unblock able. I'll wait until everyone checks in to say who.

[AngryPidgeon]

magenta_thegreat (1):

AngryPidgeon

CarbonFiber (1): Penguin_Alien
The Fox and the Hound (3): magenta_thegreat,

Just Sheep Us

,

Breakfast With Stalin

Nachomamma8 (5):

PeregrineV

, CarbonFiber, The Fox and the Hound,

Titan

, Red Gyarados, [JSU]

So I've been semi site flaking over the past few days. Looking to see where the state of the votes were here.

Colored in town as green, Tammy as blue since she feels town enough that I will nominate her for Best Mafia Performance if she actually flips mafia at this point. God I need to not say that though, cause it makes me wanna waffle, but I will be resilient.

--

Kind of interesting, looking over this part. PV starts the Nacho wagon and JSU counter-votes Fox. Stalin votes Fox, CF calls Nacho out and he/Fox have a little squabble it looks like. Apparently I missed a few pages back there. PV tries to get JSU to vote Nacho and they take Nacho out of their official lynchlist right after.

And can we go back to how much I love that the scum team is winning this by doing absolutely nothing.

What inspired you to say this? If you think Magenta is scum, I can buy that since they aren't doing much. Is this just how you feel about the game state or is this just a giant collective posture about all of your scumreads?

CF moves from Fox to Nacho. Fox votes Nacho. Hm.

If Fox is town, then CF's vote looks pretty town and RG/JSU + {...PA/Magenta?} makes the most sense as last minute bussers, with JSU's vote being kind of awkward. I guess JSU had little to no reservations about voting alongside a scumread or two, not sure who their favorite lynch was yesterday (magenta?).

If Fox is scum, then I'd have to think about this a bit.I'd probably be less inclined to lynch Magenta at least.

[Titan]

I think I was the first vote on nacho. I took it off to troll falcon, makes me feel less special that way.

Also I now feel less like a bitch about my rants to Bork about not doing anything and all that jazz, cuz he was scum.

[CarbonFiber]

DEAD

1 Lord Business, who was Kreed Grafyte, Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker, was lynched day one. (Possibility of re-entry into game)
2 Mac, who was Ricardo Soldato, Town Paranoid Bodyguard, was Killed Night 1 (also rolestops target)
3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha), who was Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker was Killed Night 1 (A modified gladiator)
4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK), who was Ruca Milda, Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, was lynched day two (Voteless till LYLO)
5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn), who was Tear Grants, Town Evolving JOAT, was killed night two
6 CupcakePanda, who was Chelsea Torn, Town Modified Delayer, was lynched Day Three (Has a oneshot magnet ability)

7 Nachomamma8, who was Arietta, Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster was lynched Day Four. (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)

8 PeregrineV, who was Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf was killed Night Four. (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)

Town

:
1 CarbonFiber - Town. Just town
2 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne) - Obvtown
3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado) - Town
4 Belisarius - Tammy says town, I think town, and IF AP is town (which I am on the fence about), he confirmed Beli

Leftovers

:
5 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)
6 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)
7 AngryPidgeon
8 Penguin_alien

Scum

9 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

I think the remaining two scum are among the leftovers obviously but I want to get rid of Magenta first.

[CarbonFiber]

I think I was the first vote on nacho. I took it off to troll falcon, makes me feel less special that way.

Also I now feel less like a bitch about my rants to Bork about not doing anything and all that jazz, cuz he was scum.

[CarbonFiber]

Bork had me 100% fooled though.

[Tammy]

The only bit of work I did last night was find this:

Nachos day two reads as reported by falcon from the neighborhood.

MastinSSK

, AP, Clyton, Orc, and PV.

Nacho wanted to get lynched though. That tells me his team is in a good place.

There's something else I'm pondering, but it will wait until I'm at a computer. I'm tired of typing on my iPad.

[CarbonFiber]

AP, the way the wagons were going wasn't really like two counterwagons where half the people vote one player and half vote the other. There was a lot of vote switching and last minute wagoning so I won't really say Fox was a CW to Nacho or JSU is suspicious for voting there.

[Titan]

The only bit of work I did last night was find this:

Nachos day two reads as reported by falcon from the neighborhood.

MastinSSK

, AP, Clyton, Orc, and PV.

Nacho wanted to get lynched though. That tells me his team is in a good place.

There's something else I'm pondering, but it will wait until I'm at a computer. I'm tired of typing on my iPad.

Me.

[CarbonFiber]

Why do you think he wanted to get lynched? I mean, he probably didn't put as much effort into avoiding a lynch like he did in Wicked but he was still trying to get RG to unvote him.

A weird thing that happened in the neighborhood was Nacho asked me what I thought of Ceph relenting so quickly and voting him. It felt like an attempt to manipulate me to go back and attack Ceph. He also flat out told me a while ago in the neighborhood to attack DV.

[CarbonFiber]

I want to see Nacho do more than play wise mediator for Tammy-CF. I'm particularly interested to see what he does with me (yes, self-centered, deal with it) given how he played me in Wicked. I also can't remember my last game with town-Nacho (NY 164?), but I know that scum-Nacho always takes me a while to find and then I doubt myself horribly (HP: CoS, X-Men)

I remember nothing from RG or F&H. That can change any time, please and thank you.

Current reads:

Town: BWS, Tammy, PV (for claim; I'm assuming we'll get an explanation for the lack of shot timing issue)
Lean town: JSU, Cupcake (pending where he's going with all this capsrage)
Null: RG, F&H
Lean scum: magenta, AP, Nacho
Scum: CF

Oh dear lord, notscience. Read the game and put your vote somewhere useful.

Although after all the attention Nacho showered on me in Wicked, I'm feeling a bit slighted here. Not sure what I'd do with Nacho anyways, since his 'reads me right when he's town' and 'makes at least a cursory attempt to lynch me when he's scum' moves are officially out of date.

Also thinking this is town-Nacho. I want to think I'm seeing PV-town here in the way he's presenting his thoughts, but I'm not sold yet. And even though info from a JSU flip is a thing, I really still want to town read them, so I have zero problem lynching a supposed miller who spent absolutely ages trying to lynch Tammy while cheerleading other town mislynches and not voting them. There's a difference between being slow to vote and goading other people into voting in your stead.

So town reads on Nacho, BWS, AP, JSU, Tammy --> scum = CF, magenta, RG...PV/F&H? Not sure about the fourth slot, but I'd lynch any of the first three happily.

All of the times that Penguin has mentioned Nacho in her ISO.

[CarbonFiber]

Penguin, please explain your townread on Nacho in-depth.

[Titan]

Are we at the day before lylo again?

I think he didn't care about being lynched because he seemed rather blasé about the whole thing. My first thought was that the thing that Penguin gave me was a delayed kill and that's why he didn't care because they'd win last night anyway. BUT I DID THE MATH THIS TIME, and worked out that even if it was and I died then it didn't give them the win. Penguin also has said that she wouldn't have admitted to giving me something if it was something that would kill me if I used it, and Clyton told me he was giving me something beforehand, but idk. I suppose he saw the writing on the wall and tried to keep his partners safe? He definitely didn't try to escape the lynch though. He kinda reminded me of Gundam seed when he just put up nominal effort, but not really anything. But I think in that instance Agar had a good chance of winning it?

Also <3 to your wall. I've been very frustrated this game and frustrating to deal with too I know. The thing is I should be happy about Nacho being lynched scum and I am, but it hasn't brought me any closer to figuring out who the scum are that are remaining.

HOWEVER, if magenta is scum, then damn my day one gut feelings on the way that went down was spot on and I should stop second-guessing myself so much, especially when Bork felt off. Well, he felt off mostly day two, he played pretty well day one.

[Titan]

Also, my activity will probably be spotty until next Wednesday. I have a really busy week and family flying in to visit. I shouldn't need to go v/la, but I probably won't be that active.

[AngryPidgeon]

Putting 2 and 2 together. When did Nacho talk about Fox in the pt? Maybe he was apathetic about being lynched because he was intentionally throwing people off of them? Random gym thought.

[CarbonFiber]

I might go back and check all of his mentions of them but off the top of my head, I said that something DV said was scummy. Nacho responded by telling me to attack that post. This was a while ago at the time when you voted yourself and said that town should lynch you and then I told everyone to lynch me. I also told Nacho in the Neighborhood thread to vote me. He said that he wouldn't, offered a lot of inspirational words, told me how to approach a lot of players and to attack Fox's posting.

Much later, just when he was about to be lynched D4 and Ceph voted him at my request, he asked me whether I found it odd that Ceph relented so quickly and voted him. I guess it is possible he wanted me to think Ceph was town or it is also possible he wanted me to unvote him and attack Ceph again and continue that flame war.