Tales of You (Dead zone)

[mastin2]

Dammit, F-16.
Nacho vs. Fox/Hound lynch options is not a choice between one being town and one being scum.
It's a choice between which scum to lynch first.

(Nacho. Because there's actually a hair's chance that Fox/Hound is town. Not so for Nacho.)

[zMuffinMan]

hair's chance? foxhound bleeds town

[mastin2]

hair's chance? foxhound bleeds scum

Well, yeah, but Nacho's thread of hair snapped already, whereas Fox/Hound's has merely been stressed and strained to the point of being held together by a single microfiber.

[pieguyn]

FML

[pieguyn]

in my defense I wasn't fully reading everything that happened after I died

[mastin2]

Vindication.
It tastes so sweet.

I am conflicted about the Nacho wagon, though.
Part of me wants to say no bussers.
A much larger part of me still wants Fox/Hound to be scum bussing.
Anyway, prediction is that another neighbor will die. If there's still scum in there (probs not), then they've done just about as much manipulation as possible, and from here-on out it'd just work against them. But much more likely, with no scum in the neighborhood, they'd want the pseudomasonry broken via nightkill.
It could honestly be either neighbor.
-If JSU, to "confirm" AP as town (even though we know he's scum), remove F-16's bastion of sanity, and to prevent them from figuring out things. Additionally, it's a kill unlikely to fail and also would sew confusion among the town, blurring things rather than clarifying them.
-If F-16, removing essentially conftown from the game, and leaving JSU's alignment increasingly-ambiguous.

[mastin2]

(Oh, and F-16's one of the only players who's realizing lolCabd means not to trust the innocent result on AP, especially given Katsuki's conflicting result on him.)

The town has hope yet. And if they clean up their act and begin following some of the things I've been preaching in here (which, for the record, I would have done if still alive and to some extent WAS doing when alive), could actually win.

[zMuffinMan]

i do not think the DV-nacho interactions make much sense as scum-scum and i do not think foxhound would bus nacho like they did so unnecessarily.

they are pretty much conftown

remaining scum is within {F16, Tammy, JSU, AP}

100%

[zMuffinMan]

outside chance of magenta actually

the way they defended nacho was sus as fuck

[mastin2]

If there was a scum busser, it was Fox/Hound, fairly certain. (Need to double-check wagon composition.)
Otherwise, all-town leaves a narrow pool essentially of AP, Magenta, and PA.
(AP's confscum, obv, but Magenta/PA aren't.)

[mastin2]

Hi, PV!
Come join us in the deadly-competent town player pile!

...By which I mean literally dead because we were actually competent!

[Cabd]

Clarified with Cabd, but failure b/c replica, role block, and no result b/c someone didn't go anywhere return the same result.

This is not true, but I can't correct him. Only the first two are correct. The third would have given a different result.

[mastin2]

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

Welcome to me, on D2.

[mastin2]

AP could literally not be scumming up the thread more if he tried.
Frankly, I think it's intentional since he KNOWS he's playing like a cheeky scumfuck and KNOWS he can get away with it 'cause he KNOWS that he's been cleared and has a dang-good chance at winning.

[mastin2]

Also,

Bork had me 100% fooled though.

Why do you think it took Nacho revealing himself to me for me to catch him?
Yeah, Nacho being Nacho, I WOULD have caught him eventually, but bork really helped carry him through.

[zMuffinMan]

Didn't investigate RG b/c they're the scum we lynch next. I was wrong about Nacho, which means on of my FoxHound/penguin reads is wrong (I'm very high certainty on Magenta and RG at this point)

do you think BRO is bussing RG/magenta or is he protecting his buddies?

whatever the case, don corleone worthy performance here

[Katsuki]

I love JUS
They are gods send to mafia
I wish I could emulate their scumplay

[Katsuki]

Also nacho get your dirty scumfuckface in here

[PeregrineV]

Hey guys. Thinking my death was long overdue, but hope I sucked up a scum RB.

Also, considering I had a neighborhood with Magenta and he said nothing means he's probably scum. He spoke first to confirm he was there, but then never said a word. Why talk to a dead guy?

Have the last 2 been spoiled already?

[PeregrineV]

Somebody in the bigger hood just posted this:

SCUM QT (Scene 1)

:

Tammy

: Fucking hell. I thought I exhausted all my scum roles this year.

Heh Nacho

I'm headed to work, check in later.

Nacho

: I was hoping to draw town with Tammy but scum with Tammy will have to do.

Bork

: HEY GUYS GOT MY ROLE PM NOW

Tammy

: Shit, Mastin pegged me on my first post. That has to be a record.

Nacho

: Stay calm, no fear.

Tammy

: Heh, Falcon's post looks awkward. Going to push on him for a bit.

Nacho

: Go for it.

Is this real?

[PeregrineV]

Ah...

Fuck

Mastin was town

LOL...I felt this exact same way!!!

[PeregrineV]

Well

Game went to shit pretty quick

PV is def scum

Killing me helped the scum team push your lynch. And now they're capitalising on town going to shit

If by some miracle PV is actually town, he is a moronic piece of shit who played awfully this game (and I mean that in the nicest possible way)

I'll take it in the nicest possbile way.

[zMuffinMan]

did you actually think we were scum? because you and JSU and CF were like... the only ones that thought we were scum, and at least one (probably both) of the other two are scum

we were a pretty dumb kill

[zMuffinMan]

nacho may have pushed the idea too

[PeregrineV]

I could potentially see Nacho as scum but I really don't think he is especially given he's been on tilt a lot recently. maybe I'm biased because I was also scumreading both you and mastin

for F-16 to be scum he'd have to have massively stepped up him being able to fake transparency. in particular, I thought the bit about him trying to work together on D2 or wherever in particular seemed transparent as well as what happened re: Tammy. I also liked the way he went about his defense of PV. there was more but those are the ones I remember atm

although there were some things where I still don't get where they're coming from (for example, him townreading me based off like 1 post in the neighborhood, but even that can probably be attributed to town frustration and being relieved someone finally sees the same thing he did), I still think I was able to follow most of the things he did

I'm wondering why you think F-16 is likely scum 0.0

post 1804 and 3003 pretty much cemented him as town to me. I would not have voted him at all. If he turns out to be scum, then I was definitely a wasted kill.