Tales of You (Endgame)

[CarbonFiber]

I might go back and check all of his mentions of them but off the top of my head, I said that something DV said was scummy. Nacho responded by telling me to attack that post. This was a while ago at the time when

you voted yourself and said that town should lynch you

and then I told everyone to lynch me. I also told Nacho in the Neighborhood thread to vote me. He said that he wouldn't, offered a lot of inspirational words, told me how to approach a lot of players and to attack Fox's posting.

Much later, just when he was about to be lynched D4 and Ceph voted him at my request, he asked me whether I found it odd that Ceph relented so quickly and voted him. I guess it is possible he wanted me to think Ceph was town or it is also possible he wanted me to unvote him and attack Ceph again and continue that flame war.

This was at AngryPidgeon btw.

[Titan]

Oh it might be nothing, but my first post in the neighborhood was "Nacho was Scum" and arthur came in and said good job guys. Penguin's been on v/la but when she came in this morning, she was like I assume Nacho was scum.

That felt like weird phrasing to me. Like an Oh he was scum, I did not know that. IDK felt weird.

I'd like to nail down what I think about her though, because if she is scum then she definitely didn't give me something to help town and since I didn't die last night after saying that I had something that could catch scum if she wasn't lying to me about it makes me feel extra weird there.

pedit: falcon go look at yoloville, and see how nacho responded when we started wagoning him. He immediately wrote this really bad case against DV. I don't think it was to get DV lynched but to get us to not lynch DV after we lynched Nacho, and it kinda worked. Do you think it looks similar?

[Just Sheep Us]

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

I'm saying that it's a possibility from a theory perspective (i.e., you aren't confirmed town the way CF/AP/Beli are)

[Just Sheep Us]

Are we at the day before lylo again?

Yes.

We were there yesterday.

Which means we are there until we lynch town, at which point we are at LyLo.

[Tammy]

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

I'm saying that it's a possibility from a theory perspective (i.e., you aren't confirmed town the way CF/AP/Beli are)

Fair.

Although I'm concerned one of the confirmed towns may not be and that's why nacho didn't seem to care about being lynched.

[Titan]

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

I'm saying that it's a possibility from a theory perspective (i.e., you aren't confirmed town the way CF/AP/Beli are)

Fair.

Although I'm concerned one of the confirmed towns may not be and that's why nacho didn't seem to care about being lynched.

I'm giving up and just letting my medicine take me out.

[CarbonFiber]

Going to check Yoloville now.

Also, Tammy how do you feel about AP and JSU right now?

[The Fox and the Hound]

I felt you and DV continuing to poke at it long after it was over was irritating. It was something that was resolved a while before either of you logged on and obviously wasn't something I want to continue discussing nor did I want your opinion about it. It didn't involve you and it is not something you are going to develop any sort of read out of. I'll assume you had the best of intentions when you quoted posts saying "I still think you are town but etc" as if it would benefit the town but I certainly don't see it that way. It is not an argument that you or DV needed to get involved in and it isn't helping at all nor is DV making a quote-stripe asking for elaboration. In general, getting in the middle of a conflict to take a side is rarely helpful and I never at any point was thankful that you or DV stepped in and never thought that either of you trying to make sense of it was the least bit beneficial and it would have been better if you had not commented at all. If you are town, I feel it is best to move on.

I can apologize for that to some degree. Wandering into conversations I don't belong in and commenting on things that I should probably let be are among my issues as a player. Don't think I'm taking my eye off you but there is definitely at least one much better lynch right now.

Also, do you think it's a coincidence that Nacho directed the day-1 lynch onto Orc, of all the lurkers?

No?

I didn't think so either.

VOTE: Magenta

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted to come in and say. Nacho's actions at the end of day 1 suddenly make all kinds of sense. I need to review his posts as well for connections, but that's mostly to hunt down the last two because there is no way magenta is town. I do agree with what someone said about Nacho probably thinking his team is in a good spot, because I saw Casso and I know he can not get lynched when he wants to not get lynched.

If you actually think there's a snails chance in hell I'm scum, I just really don't know what to say, but you've lost bragging rights forever.

I'm saying that it's a possibility from a theory perspective (i.e., you aren't confirmed town the way CF/AP/Beli are)

Fair.

Although I'm concerned one of the confirmed towns may not be and that's why nacho didn't seem to care about being lynched.

This possibility should not be entirely discarded, but we don't need to worry about it yet.

VOTE: magenta

[Red Gyarados]

Didn't investigate RG b/c they're the scum we lynch next. I was wrong about Nacho, which means on of my FoxHound/penguin reads is wrong (I'm very high certainty on Magenta and RG at this point)

I'm town jerkwad.

And even if you investigated me, you wouldn't have gotten anything. I'm a 1-Shot. I burned my shot the previous night so I wouldn't know if I were blocked.

If you still plan on mislynching me, then I'd rather you do it today than in possible Lylo.

If Fox is town, then CF's vote looks pretty town and RG/JSU + {...PA/Magenta?} makes the most sense as last minute bussers, with JSU's vote being kind of awkward. I guess JSU had little to no reservations about voting alongside a scumread or two, not sure who their favorite lynch was yesterday (magenta?).

Last minute busser? I've been calling Nacho scum since Day 2!

*Still thinking about the roleblocking. Seeing Nacho flip RB helps fill some of the holes in. And since when did Mara become a RB? I thought she was a governor. Doesn't that make her a JOAT?

[Just Sheep Us]

AP would have to be a godfather, or scum would have to have a day cop (and have used it on a townie who full claimed day 1)/miller fakeclaim (shit game design) for one of the conftowns not to be conftown at this point.

Me/Desp aren't conftown (outside our own POV), but the evidence in-thread towards our own towniness at this point should be pretty fucking overwhelming.

I don't really feel like I have anything else to say right now. I could go case build, but the magenta case is largely high-level thing based on how the end of day 1 played out (i.e., that the lynch was on Orc over LB after Nacho failed to get his SDMLs on me and p5).

pedit: You lack conviction

[Just Sheep Us]

If Fox is town, then CF's vote looks pretty town and RG/JSU + {...PA/Magenta?} makes the most sense as last minute bussers, with JSU's vote being kind of awkward. I guess JSU had little to no reservations about voting alongside a scumread or two, not sure who their favorite lynch was yesterday (magenta?).

I made it pretty apparent that I was pretty equivalent b/w FoxHound, penguin, RG, and magenta, and that I wanted to find the slot with the most overlap between the nearly 1/2 of town that is confirmed to me+Tammy.

I voted Nacho b/c it was pretty apparent that it's impossible to get this group to work together, and Nacho was still a preferable lynch to anyone conftown to me or Tammy.

[CarbonFiber]

Also, do you think it's a coincidence that Nacho directed the day-1 lynch onto Orc, of all the lurkers?

No?

I didn't think so either.

VOTE: Magenta

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted to come in and say. Nacho's actions at the end of day 1 suddenly make all kinds of sense. I need to review his posts as well for connections, but that's mostly to hunt down the last two because there is no way magenta is town. I do agree with what someone said about Nacho probably thinking his team is in a good spot, because I saw Casso and I know he can not get lynched when he wants to not get lynched.
I said exactly that a few posts earlier.

Also, for the first time, I found something in this game to be happy about. I never figured we'd be able to lynch scum with the rate we were going but we did and that's awesome and I think even if we lose, we are going to go down fighting and not roll over and give scum a perfect win.

My biggest suspect right now is Magenta the great.

1) Nacho's push on Orc D1 smelled so much like a bus especially since Orc could only self-govern D1.

2) Mara's lack of paranoia over Nacho was weird as well as her lack of interactions with other players who read Nacho better in NY169.

So, I wonder why you commented on JSU's post as opposed to mine. The paranoid part of me makes me think you did it because you didn't want to agree with me since you need to keep me as a viable mislynch after the Magenta lynch. This is sort of what I was referring to with you being positional and I don't know if it just your playstyle to be that way and whether you do it as town. Was it intentional on your part to skip over my post?

[Red Gyarados]

(i.e., that the lynch was on Orc over LB after Nacho failed to get his SDMLs on me and p5)

What's an SDML?

pedit: You lack conviction

Since when?

And I could easily say the same of you since you just claimed you only wanted to lynch Nacho because you thought it was the best available option.

[CarbonFiber]

Quotefail

Also, do you think it's a coincidence that Nacho directed the day-1 lynch onto Orc, of all the lurkers?

No?

I didn't think so either.

VOTE: Magenta

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted to come in and say. Nacho's actions at the end of day 1 suddenly make all kinds of sense. I need to review his posts as well for connections, but that's mostly to hunt down the last two because there is no way magenta is town. I do agree with what someone said about Nacho probably thinking his team is in a good spot, because I saw Casso and I know he can not get lynched when he wants to not get lynched.

I said exactly that a few posts earlier.

Also, for the first time, I found something in this game to be happy about. I never figured we'd be able to lynch scum with the rate we were going but we did and that's awesome and I think even if we lose, we are going to go down fighting and not roll over and give scum a perfect win.

My biggest suspect right now is Magenta the great.

1) Nacho's push on Orc D1 smelled so much like a bus especially since Orc could only self-govern D1.

2) Mara's lack of paranoia over Nacho was weird as well as her lack of interactions with other players who read Nacho better in NY169.

So, I wonder why you commented on JSU's post as opposed to mine. The paranoid part of me makes me think you did it because you didn't want to agree with me since you need to keep me as a viable mislynch after the Magenta lynch. This is sort of what I was referring to with you being positional and I don't know if it just your playstyle to be that way and whether you do it as town. Was it intentional on your part to skip over my post?

[Just Sheep Us]

(i.e., that the lynch was on Orc over LB after Nacho failed to get his SDMLs on me and p5)

What's an SDML?

pedit: You lack conviction

Since when?

And I could easily say the same of you since you just claimed you only wanted to lynch Nacho because you thought it was the best available option.

SDML-Scum-designated mislynch.

Did you not read the last game phase? Yeah, it's uncharacteristic of me to be the Captain America trying to bring the team together, but when everyone else refuses to do it...

[Red Gyarados]

No? I thought I made this obvious when I stated I haven't been reading in the last day phase.

[Just Sheep Us]

So then why are you trying to construct arguments about my play during the last phase based on a comment I made about my play during the very last part of it.

[Red Gyarados]

Yeah, it's uncharacteristic of me to be the Captain America trying to bring the team together, but when everyone else refuses to do it...

If you want lack of motivation, think about how I felt on Day 2 when I told you and your neighbors to get the fuck out of there and help me lynch Nacho instead of having to watch you four circle-jerk your "I just want to lynch Mastin" sentiments?

[Red Gyarados]

So then why are you trying to construct arguments about my play during the last phase based on a comment I made about my play during the very last part of it.

I'm not. I don't think it's fair of you to say I lacked conviction about lynching Nacho. He was my one scumread I felt really good about this game.

You didn't even really want to lynch him. So you stating that

I

lacked conviction irritates me.

[Just Sheep Us]

Yeah, it's uncharacteristic of me to be the Captain America trying to bring the team together, but when everyone else refuses to do it...

If you want lack of motivation, think about how I felt on Day 2 when I told you and your neighbors to get the fuck out of there and help me lynch Nacho instead of having to watch you four circle-jerk your "I just want to lynch Mastin" sentiments?

Oh yeah, let me apologize for having a mental breakdown brought on by specific players, and shutting down until they were out of the game.

lol jk.

[Just Sheep Us]

So then why are you trying to construct arguments about my play during the last phase based on a comment I made about my play during the very last part of it.

I'm not. I don't think it's fair of you to say I lacked conviction about lynching Nacho. He was my one scumread I felt really good about this game.

You didn't even really want to lynch him. So you stating that

I

lacked conviction irritates me.

Why did you tie me saying you lack conviction to your push on Nacho?

[Red Gyarados]

I thought that's what you meant. Did you mean something else?

[Just Sheep Us]

I'm town jerkwad.

And even if you investigated me, you wouldn't have gotten anything. I'm a 1-Shot. I burned my shot the previous night so I wouldn't know if I were blocked.

If you still plan on mislynching me, then I'd rather you do it today than in possible Lylo.

There is a hollow, empty shell of emotion backing this.

[Just Sheep Us]

Also, if it isn't obvious, I'm gonna be dropping Avengers references for the rest of the game because why not.

[Red Gyarados]

I'm town jerkwad.

And even if you investigated me, you wouldn't have gotten anything. I'm a 1-Shot. I burned my shot the previous night so I wouldn't know if I were blocked.

If you still plan on mislynching me, then I'd rather you do it today than in possible Lylo.

There is a hollow, empty shell of emotion backing this.

I'm reevaluating how I feel about you/AP.

With Nacho flipping alternating commuter/roleblocker, there's a chance all the role interferences have been accounted for.