Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Antihero]

is that against the rules to ask someone to replace out?

i got a warning in a game for saying that not too long ago

then i'll take the warning and i won't say it again.

but that's how i feel. i think aegor is being extremely rude and self-centered by pushing a policy lynch. if he wants to push a scum case on us, then i'll debate him about that, but i think what he's doing is unacceptable.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

i'm serious.

you don't get to join a game knowing full well there are hydras and then policy lynch.

we were first. replace out.

I think it now is more about how obnoxious you hydra is with no body and 2 heads posting from your individual accounts. It is annoying. I Could be wrong though.

[TiphaineDeath]

Alright Aegor I'll bite, why do you think Necro is scummy over Xay and Dry? Also why are Xay and dry scummy, in your own words.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

i'm serious.

you don't get to join a game knowing full well there are hydras and then policy lynch.

we were first. replace out.

I think it now is more about how obnoxious you hydra is with no body and 2 heads posting from your individual accounts. It is annoying. I Could be wrong though.

that being said, I would not advocate a policy lynch... and anyone voting for that stated reason is concerning...

[Aegor]

I am not pushing for a policy lynch; that is your own incorrect inference.

[Aegor]

And my original hydra PL statement was mostly a joke. Kind of.

[Antihero]

is your sample size one game?

...

you know what i'm going to tell you next, right?

But for me, an intuitive type, is not about sample size. Every game is its own sample, and this is an entirely different game, with different responses. My sample size of TD is one game to my knowledge, yes. The behavior fits that previous game and seems on par. Thus the town read at this point for me. I can be fooled. Experience builds, yes. Now you are pointing sample size and you pointed to 3 recent games, one where lynched when asked to be replaced out, and 2 micros.

So, let me ask you this Anti- you have a sample size of me of zero completed games. Mastin has a sample size of 1 completed game. Yet, that was enough to proclaim a read without anything behind it? Hell, mastin probably did not even attend to me in that one game. Can one only have reads or reaction to folks if one has extended sample sizes? No, I don't think so. We all have experiences. the experiences shape our decisions whether the are sound or not. Now, as far as TD goes, probably the null behaviors TD looks at has resulted in scum, so reinforces that behavior as being "Scummy" as a scum was found based on that behavior in past. So then the behavior is repeated and intermittently reinforced. Making it hard to shake.

nonono, not the same

you weren't talking about a

read

on Tiphaine, you were talking about his

overall skill level

and extrapolating that you shouldn't listen to him in this game because he got burned in another game.

if getting burned in a game disqualified someone's judgment, we shouldn't be listening to.... anybody

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Neutral

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (2): ZZZX, Dry-fit
ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (0):
Zdenek (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (1): Saki
The Most Curious Thing (1): PeregrineV
Nachomamma8 (0):
TSO (0):
MafiaSSK (0):
Natirasha (1): MafiaSSK
Talah (1): TheNecromancers
Xayzeck (3): The Most Curious Thing, Zdenek, TiphaineDeath
TheNecromancers (8): Jordan_Downey, Talah, Xayzeck, Natirasha, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Aegor, Doublade, Fear
Fear (1): Spring Starflower
Jordan_Downey (1): Shiny Hydreigon
Aegor (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (3): Nachomamma8, TSO, RachMarie

It is day 1. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, June 15 at 2:00am EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-06-15 02:00:00).

[Antihero]

I really want Necro to die.

If they are scum, I would consider that the cherry on top.

No one else has done anything interesting. Xay may be scum. Dry-fit is also definitely scum, but the Necro hydra must return to the dead.

so, it's because you don't like me/mastin personally? i guess i don't know what you mean by this, then.

that's an even worse reason and if your dislike of mastin and i goes

that

deep, you shouldn't have signed up for this game.

[TiphaineDeath]

Hey, Aegor, plz see 502.

[Spring Starflower]

i liek the speed of this game

[Aegor]

Alright Aegor I'll bite, why do you think Necro is scummy over Xay and Dry?

I think that the Necro hydra is more deserving of a lynch; that does not mean that I find it more scummy necessarily. I can believe player 1 is scummier than player 2 but still advocate for 2's lynch based on other factors, e.g. information generated by the lynch, general effect on the game, influence 2 has on other players, etc.

The hydra's posts in general are irrational, devoid of content, full of vague feelings, and extremely aggressive and defensive. One can verify this easily through an ISO.

Also why are Xay and dry scummy, in your own words.

I addressed dry in a post; ISO me and ask me again if you have questions or could not find my explanation.

Xay is gut. TBH, part of that is others' suspicions; had they not been expressed, I may not be subconsciously seeking some reason to find Xay's posts scummy. That read is definitely subject to change/solidification.

[Spring Starflower]

so, it's because you don't like me/mastin personally?

i sure do love antihero/mastin personally


if anyone should be policy lynched i think there is a very obvious target

[Spring Starflower]

i will ask my dear associate to throw a sharp knife at the target

[Spring Starflower]

oh dear this is too grim and dark for my "Spring Starflower" facade


i need to fit my persona

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

nonono, not the sameyou weren't talking about a read on Tiphaine, you were talking about his overall skill level and extrapolating that you shouldn't listen to him in this game because he got burned in another game.if getting burned in a game disqualified someone's judgment, we shouldn't be listening to.... anybody

that is YOUR PERCEPTION on my words. I know what I meant. I am not referring to TD's overall skill level. I have a bad experience with TD. I have no reason to trust his reads. I think I have a handle on why TD has developed certain reads. I personally have no reason to trust him. Now that is a "personal bias" based on my own experience and not grounded in fact, much like folks that point at me off the bat do so largely off of personal bias or faulty perceptions on null behaviors. We all have our own personal biases, period.

[Aegor]

so, it's because you don't like me/mastin personally? i guess i don't know what you mean by this, then.

that's an even worse reason and if your dislike of mastin and i goes

that

deep, you shouldn't have signed up for this game.

I have absolutely nothing against either of you. Furthermore, I have no problem with your (Anti's) playestyle at all. I just think it is likely you are scum and that even if you are not, your hydra is having a deleterious effect on the game and should be excised like a malignant tumor.

Yay for similes, although I use that one often enough that I should branch out.

[Spring Starflower]

deleterious effect on the game and should be excised like a malignant tumor.

Aegor, master of Language!!

you have to admit that was pretty funny

[Spring Starflower]

TD is cool. I am cool with TD.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

i will ask my dear associate to throw a sharp knife at the target

[Jordan_Downey]

Metal Sonic, I don't think actual content of the posts matter that much to anti. He's playing is own game. They are both overconfident, with anti being emotional and seemingly cranky.

Anti you are the only person continuing to bring up the hydra comment. Maybe on sign up he didn't realize how many? He also didn't try pressing the issue, didn't try to press a vote. Yet you keep bringing it up ... Why?

Also, is there a reason everyone can't just make one post instead of several little ones?

[TiphaineDeath]

Found the dry bit.

I think you should almost always vote for who you think is scummiest, until at least midgame when one persons flip ends up flipping a whole bunch of connection switches and giving you like 2-3 scum and a bunch of conf town. But I can also see where you're coming from even though i disagree, at least in theory.

This particular practice though feels wrong. Anti has been aggressive and defensive, yeah, but people have kind of been giving him reason to be. Mastin has generated plenty of content, more through his existence as a polarizing factor than through his reads, but still you got to admit it's totally there.

[Spring Starflower]

Metal Sonic, I don't think actual content of the posts matter that much to anti. He's playing is own game. They are both overconfident, with anti being emotional and seemingly cranky.

can you please quote the post that your were referring to?

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

oh and basically my comment to TD is meant to say, wake up, don't do what you have done before, show me something better as right now it does not appear to be better... my own bias and a slap upside the head saying please don't do that again.

[Antihero]

The hydra's posts in general are irrational, devoid of content, full of vague feelings, and extremely aggressive and defensive. One can verify this easily through an ISO.

OK,

before

we went down the rabbit hole of bullshit with SKOT and Fear in the last few pages, where did any of this happen?

i'm going to completely disengage from aegor before i really do say something to him that gets me banned.