Tales of You (Dead zone)

[PeregrineV]

did you actually think we were scum? because you and JSU and CF were like... the only ones that thought we were scum, and at least one (probably both) of the other two are scum

we were a pretty dumb kill

When you pushed back when Carbon counterclaimed Miller instead of just coming clean, I couldn't figure out why town would stick to the lie? At worse, you could have gone with you were both millers. I would have been like but would porbbaly have let it pass.
Maybe.

Also, Mastin would have been shot but he claimed BP, so he gets partial credit for my moronic play.

[PeregrineV]

not the mastin lynch in particular but him coming to the conclusion he was being too stubborn about his reads and trying to work with ppl to help fix that

although in the end everyone lynched mastin anyway so

like i don't believe town-F16 would really think PV had done anything that looked particularly town and at least not enough that he had a strong enough town read that he wanted to defend him to the grave

also i think he was using the white knighting of PV to push PV's attackers (like me and mastin)

very good but very common scum tactic from F16

I'm ultra biased here bc he defended the shit out of me in NY169 and I did think PV was kind of town

like it felt like PV was at least trying to do shit and scumhunt, and was open about posting stuff that he did find. but I kind of lost that feeling a bit on D2 when he was pushing Tammy and I was just like (......wat)

and sometimes I defend ppl ultra hard when I feel they're town, an easy mislynch, and that scum is pushing on them

I'm glad this Tammy stuff is coming up.

Since we are all dead and town, you know this is legit questions.

Apparently even (except me) had townreads on Tammy and Nacho (scum). Nacho did NO scumhunting whatsoever. Tammy has 6000 posts and has DONE ZERO scumhunting.
Why is Tammy a townread?

[PeregrineV]

And, yep. Katsuki was town. Just like we all fucking said.

Yeah, but not really until he started actually playing. His lynch was crap though. Should have been Nacho that day.

[PeregrineV]

Nobody joins you tonight. Timely save: check

Seems like the saver could have mentioned this....

[mastin2]

His lynch was crap though. Should have been Nacho that day.

So was mine, and same thing then. Nacho should've been lynched D2, or if not him, AP.

My other scumreads wavered, those two did not.
Nacho was scum, and AP is scum, both obvious from in-thread posting and just in case that wasn't enough mod-confirmed via the questions about his role.
We could have lynched either of them.
I pushed both of them.

In general, I don't really like to say, "I told you so", to keep humble and recognize mistakes.
...But sometimes?

...I really did freakin' tell you so. 'Specially if Magenta also flips scum.

[PeregrineV]

His lynch was crap though. Should have been Nacho that day.

So was mine, and same thing then. Nacho should've been lynched D2, or if not him, AP.

My other scumreads wavered, those two did not.
Nacho was scum, and AP is scum, both obvious from in-thread posting and just in case that wasn't enough mod-confirmed via the questions about his role.
We could have lynched either of them.
I pushed both of them.

In general, I don't really like to say, "I told you so", to keep humble and recognize mistakes.
...But sometimes?

...I really did freakin' tell you so. 'Specially if Magenta also flips scum.

You claimed, but it wasn't verifiable.

And once you are dead, esp. via lynch, very rarely are town posts re-read.

But, I would have looked back at your day's VC after the Nacho flip, had I lived.

Votecount 4-10

With 11 players alive, it will take 6 votes to lynch or no lynch.

magenta_thegreat (1): AngryPidgeon
CarbonFiber (1): Penguin_Alien
The Fox and the Hound (2): magenta_thegreat,

Just Sheep Us

, Breakfast With Stalin
Nachomamma8 (6): PeregrineV, CarbonFiber, The Fox and the Hound, Titan, Red Gyarados, Just Sheep Us


Not Voting (1): Nachomamma8

[PeregrineV]

Based on play,
Breakfast might be scum,
Tammy is probably scum,
Magenta is probably scum

Red Gary is my next choice if one of the above is town.
But AP also looks scummy, but his choice of me as scum has been consistent, as in I've been a listed target the last few nights, so there is that.

[PeregrineV]

Man....I know I put on deodorant today.....

[mastin2]

PV...check the first post.
AP is quite literally mod-confirmed scum.

[PeregrineV]

PV...check the first post.
AP is quite literally mod-confirmed scum.

Is this role truthful?

ok fuck it. wow just fuck it. im a modified cop. i never actually got sent an actual pm, just skyped the details. every night i send THREe targets. The mafia team picks ONE of those and i get an investigate on the player. cabd told me that there is no explicit timing on when i need to have the 3 submits in by over night when i asked, but said to just be fast about it to keep things moving. but im in roleblock town for the rest of the game.

also my role only works while there are more than 9 players alive at night.

Answer: No.

He could send in 2 names instead of three. Or he could be a regular cop. or exact wording stuff.

But, if he is scum, if he was cleared by JustSheepUs, then JSU would be scum.

[mastin2]

And his motivation for lying as town is...
...What, exactly?


Yeah, thought so.

[PeregrineV]

And his motivation for lying as town is...
...What, exactly?


Yeah, thought so.

His only real reason would be to keep scumkill/RBs off of him.

But does JSU/AP scumteam put all eggs in one AP basket?

That also incriminate Breakfast, though, too.

One flip and they are all fucked?

[PeregrineV]

And his motivation for lying as town is...
...What, exactly?


Yeah, thought so.

And I lied as town. I was one-shot but never said it or even implied it.

[mastin2]

But does JSU/AP scumteam put all eggs in one AP basket?
That also incriminate Breakfast, though, too.
One flip and they are all fucked?

Not necessarily, given that JSU and/or Stalin can both be town with AP as scum, but even if not, considering that people can THINK as much, yeah, they could.

And I lied as town. I was one-shot but never said it or even implied it.

The difference being you lied as a gambit about your role still being useful when it was used up, making your lie be pro-town.

AP's lie is about

a fundamental aspect of his role

, to which there is no town motive.

[Katsuki]

And, yep. Katsuki was town. Just like we all fucking said.

Yeah, but not really until he started actually playing. His lynch was crap though. Should have been Nacho that day.

You mean join in on the clusterfuck that was the first 2 days? No thanks

[PeregrineV]

And, yep. Katsuki was town. Just like we all fucking said.

Yeah, but not really until he started actually playing. His lynch was crap though. Should have been Nacho that day.

You mean join in on the clusterfuck that was the first 2 days? No thanks

Yeah, but staying out of it looked just as bad. An injection of common sense every day or so would have helped, maybe.

[PeregrineV]

Magenta not posting in out neighborhood - magenta scum?

Anyone got an answer for why Tammy=town?

[pieguyn]

JSU might not actually be scum

if that's the case, POE gives me {AP penguin magenta}

I called it first

[mastin2]

I'm calling AP Magenta Fox for the sake of it.
(Now watch someone else claim AP PA Fox.)

[pieguyn]

i just don't think DV is scum

then again i thought nacho's play up to d3 was town

[pieguyn]

first to guess what my sig says wins a prize

inb4 i messed up

[zMuffinMan]

it's not messed up. though i suppose it depends on what you intended it to mean

[zMuffinMan]

though i suppose you could contract it all into one sentence and leave out the desu

[pieguyn]

lolol

i'm totally in "disappointed and hating myself" mode right now

(it's not even as a result of the touhou upick, it's another game)

[pieguyn]

I think I need a mafia break

I have a habit of letting mafia consume my entire soul