Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Burning_Earth (1): MafiaSSK
ika (1): Burning_Earth
MafiaSSK (3): goodmorning, bubbajack8, Titus
Titus (2): Jingle, Guyett
Not voting (4): Dr Pants, ika, Snork, Antihero

With

11

players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch a player.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-06-09 09:00:00).

[ika]

titus: one final question, will you accept you might be todays lynch more or less for info assuming you are town?

p-edit: she*

[Titus]

ika, I never accept my lynch. EVER. I know I am the "info" lynch but info lynches suck balls. If I get lynched, that's the way the game goes. If I accept my lynch, I selfvote. I'd only self-vote at deadline. I make scums fill the slots on my wagon. How many times do I say it? We lynch for scum, not for information.

[ika]

mod: did mafia have pregame chat?

[StrangerCoug]

mod: did mafia have pregame chat?

I can't tell you.

[Guyett]

A better question would be if scum have day chat

[ika]

A better question would be if scum have day chat

was asked and mod wouldnt answer.

[Guyett]

mod: did mafia have pregame chat?

I checked a previous game of SC's that I played and scum got pregame chat but no day chat. I assume the same applies here.
To back that up I checked another game of SC's that I didn't play and the same applies

[Guyett]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5737537
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5355770

[Dr Pants]

after the excitement has worn off of Guy's fake vig play, GM's point that the arguments on titus look to be confbias seem correct. Still, I think there's something there for Titus being scum that has more substance. I'll look into this a bit, but for now I think its that Titus played the day very "safe".

[Titus]

after the excitement has worn off of Guy's fake vig play, GM's point that the arguments on titus look to be confbias seem correct. Still, I think there's something there for Titus being scum that has more substance. I'll look into this a bit, but for now I think its that Titus played the day very "safe".

What about my play has been safe? I've been aggressively going after scum and going after my townreads. Just because I was universally townread before Jingle spewed his shit doesn't make my play safe. I'm townread because I don't do the safe play.

[Dr Pants]

you've been aggressive with Anti but not really anyone else. The only other person you went after was Ika, but you stopped pursuit on that pretty quickly.

note that what I'm saying is that I dont think you should get run out for the stuff with Guy's fake vig, if anything I'm saying a lynch on you needs to be founded in something more substantial.

[ika]

mod: did mafia have pregame chat?

I checked a previous game of SC's that I played and scum got pregame chat but no day chat. I assume the same applies here.
To back that up I checked another game of SC's that I didn't play and the same applies

im well aware of his past games (street racer i was in), but it doesnt exclude the chance of him throwing a wrench into play

p-edit: well the fact that GM stats she town-reads all her scums bugs the shit out of me now

know what, i no longer can sort anything out untill i get a flip or jester comes on and explains the

Obvi!sucm SSK to Titus vote to me.

titus: thats the other problem, when your univerasly town, something off. your more misunderstood as town then you are scum. The fact you are making sense to others is why im continued to get paranoid.

Are you willing to countervote jingle in place of SSK right now?

[Titus]

ika, I am aware of that. Unfortunately, that's why I try to clarify the moonlogic = Titus is town. People in this game are taking the time to break down my posts, so I don't have to say something 10 times, but for Anti. You're being transparent.

I'd be willing to vote Jingle. I'm just trying not to confbias him for his shitty meta comments. You and I both know they are shit.

I want to lynch: SSK
I can lynch: Jingle
I refuse to lynch: SSK

Clear?

[Titus]

you've been aggressive with Anti but not really anyone else. The only other person you went after was Ika, but you stopped pursuit on that pretty quickly.

note that what I'm saying is that I dont think you should get run out for the stuff with Guy's fake vig, if anything I'm saying a lynch on you needs to be founded in something more substantial.

I was aggressive with everyone trying to bring SSK to the forefront. I was aggressive with ika until I townread him. I am still aggressive with SSK. I'm aggressive with Jingle, but restraining myself a little there.

[ika]

no....

moonlogic=you make sense=your scum

no logic=you make no sense=your town

this is how everyone seems to read you for your meta. this is why im trying to sort things out.

[Dr Pants]

titus did you mean to have SSK as both want to lynch and refuse to lynch?

[Titus]

Pants, no. I meant refuse to lynch me. I'm tired and sleepy.

That meta makes me cry ika. It precludes me from ever being good town. Scum love it regardless of who they are.

[ika]

Pants, no. I meant refuse to lynch me. I'm tired and sleepy.

That meta makes me cry ika. It precludes me from ever being good town. Scum love it regardless of who they are.

Well thats how many have preceved you. I just poke you untill i figure something out.

[Jingle]

ika, I am aware of that. Unfortunately, that's why I try to clarify the moonlogic = Titus is town. People in this game are taking the time to break down my posts, so I don't have to say something 10 times, but for Anti. You're being transparent.

I'd be willing to vote Jingle. I'm just trying not to confbias him for his shitty meta comments. You and I both know they are shit.

I want to lynch: SSK
I can lynch: Jingle
I refuse to lynch: SSK

Clear?

This. This is why I want to lynch Titus. I've mentioned Titus' meta four times. The first was before reading any of her posts, to tell Anti that getting angry because her logic doesn't mesh is stupid. The second was that I felt Titus' early play was avoiding making any waves or offending too many people. Both of the others are directly addressing self meta. Titus tunnels as both alignments, for example, Scum-Tunneling Titus. The final reference to meta was me responding to you saying I should know you're town based on meta. Tell me, how many games have we been in together? How many games have I as town correctly read your alignment? Keep the bullshit coming, it's making me laugh.

I prefer Titus, because she's scum and a high information lynch.
I would love to lynch SSK, because he's also scum, but he can wait 'til tomorrow.
Lynching Jingle is a bad idea.

Also, why the fuck was anyone surprised I was willing to vote Titus when she has been my biggest scumread since I first started reading this game? Are you paying any attention at all?

He also omitted my attempts to get the conversation to turn to SSK. When it didn't I tried to go with the will of the group, then Anti obvscummed.

I'm sorry, I must have missed this. Links please? Same with my 'meta arguments.'

Jingle's points are utter shit. Jingle is desperate scum. Why you can't see that? I don't know. Why wouldn't I just push Pants as scum? It was easy there. No. I had a legitimate townread on Pants.

Why and how am I desperate? This makes no sense at all. There has been zero pressure on me since I replaced in. I asked for a stay in lynching so that I could post my reads. I got said stay in lynching. I posted my reads. What part of that is 'desperate scum'? Why are you making shit up?

Pants, Shroomish was a null lean scum read for me. Jingle using my meta in a bastardized and wrong way (read: full of twists, assumptions and lies), makes me want to jump and say scum. However, I know that burned and butthurt people come into threads assuming I am scum frequently, especially given my winrate as scum. I just buddied the shit out of Jingle in Mini Theme Upick (either 1539 or 49 too lazy to check) and won that flawlessly as a mafia suicide bomber. Although faking that level of indecision was fucking hard. I need time to determine whether Jingle is butthurt town or scum. So I want SSK dead first.

I am bitter over that game. Town derped it up completely. Bitter at you? No. Bitter at all of the fucking stupid that came out of town? Yes. Your alignment this game? Not related.

[Titus]

1) First, going after ika is not a subtle action, particularly for me. Going after ika and being wrong is very likely to get me dead. He and I have a bit of a complicated relationship.
2) Second, when the hell did I tell Anti not to get angry bc I was wrong? That is bullshit.
3) Yes, I tunnel as scum. What's the relevance?
4) I don't remember how many games. The two that stand out are Geology (you were scum) and U pick (I was scum)
5) As scum, I don't bus. You saw it in Upick, where I always had a better place to vote. So SSK is obvious scum so I start the day wanting to killhim? Logical disconnect.
6) You say it was all toen's fault but your actions ibdicate another. I did a jedi mind trick on Trollie that caused his meltdown. I whiteknighted the rber to ensure the math was off and no one solved bus driver. I told you how to solve the game but you ignored it bc I was scum.

My play here is totally different than Upick. I am not in control of anything. I can't get SSK really talked about even though ika wants to lynch him. I haf to kick and scream to get every inch because of my stupid meta barring players from seeing me as a goid townie.

[Titus]

Jingle look at my iso at the start of Day 2.

[MafiaSSK]

mod: did mafia have pregame chat?

I checked a previous game of SC's that I played and scum got pregame chat but no day chat. I assume the same applies here.
To back that up I checked another game of SC's that I didn't play and the same applies

Guyett, as having comodded with SC before, he would totally have daychat for scum. Not that I can find any examples of it, but I know that he's not adverse to it.

[Titus]

What game did you comod with Stranger? By implication, there was no daychat in that game. So why do you think he'd have one here?

[ika]

titus, do you think fakevig was scum orientied or town oriented?

think back to our old game. do you think it was some means of that?