Tales of You (Endgame)

The Fox and the Hound · Post Post #7950 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:37 pm

Yep, we're male

CarbonFiber · Post Post #7951 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:21 pm

If your name has any question marks next to you, please answer whatever it is. If I made a mistake, let me know. I'll post the full list once I have everything.

Spoiler: Incomplete List of Claims

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7952 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:52 pm

We're Beryl Benito, Town Artist. I'm from Tales of Hearts, female, and I'm considered both an Adult/Child (Child at Heart). I'm assuming Fox is something like a flavor cop because I'm technically a Copier (Watercolor). Once in this game, at night, I'm allowed to visit another player. If that person uses a night action on the same nightphase I visit them, I get to copy their action and use it in the next night phase. The combination of my Copy ability and my gender was why I was so interested in RBD's agecop claim.

N1: Didn't target anybody. If I had seen AP's claim at the end of Day 1, I would have visited him.

N2: AP. I saw his claim on Day 2 and decided to try and confirm his role. I thought he could be town and I wanted his night action. If I was able to confirm him as town, I was planning on asking for a neighborhood with him. Instead, I got blocked, and went for the neighborhood anyways. CC madness ensued. I was either blocked or something else interfered with my role because I got to retain my 1-Shot ability.

N3: Fox. Notty and I both thought AP was going to be a scumlynch after what happened Day 3. We decided to check either Fox/PA, and I convinced him that we should check Fox. My role didn't fail, but I didn't receive anything in return (I actually had no idea what role Fox had, but I didn't want to give up any leverage of what my result on them could be). According to Cabd (I went great lengths to make sure I understood how my role worked), it shouldn't matter whether or not their role fails. As long as my role succeeds and they take a night action, I should be able to copy them. I can verify this with him again if you want me to.

Not sure, but I'm thinking Fox could be scum here.

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7953 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:54 pm

I also seem to have asked Cabd about how a vig would work with an ascetic. Notty/I were probably considering copying PV so we can shoot Nacho.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #7954 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:55 pm

Oh I forgot PA hadn't claimed. Yeh Im sort of off balance with what is now clearly a cold so bear with me. Im only typing cause my head is too on fire to laydown.

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7955 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:55 pm

Oh, I didn't have an action to take last night. So I wouldn't know if I were roleblocked.

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7956 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:39 pm

In post 7940, The Fox and the Hound wrote:Now that we're out I may as well admit that we can't be roleblocked by children, so presumably that was targeted at Nacho?

Roleblocked or targeted?

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7957 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:12 pm

Citizen of the Spir Maze.

CarbonFiber · Post Post #7958 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:54 pm

Okay, just to be clear, you should have visited me N4 and found out my role because that's what Fox did N3? And it turns out you got nothing?

Do you think Fox is lying about their role/night actions? From your POV, they correctly found out that you were an Artist. Where do you think the issue is?

Belisarius · Post Post #7959 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:54 pm

Filling in the blanks from my main; I'm stuck at work due to a police-mandated city-wide lockdown (Some daft cunt went on a shooting spree, manhunt ongoing) so I don't have access to my hydra account until I get home.

Name: Mao
Gender: Male
Age: Child
N4: Followed CF, results to Tammy, but no result so I'm presuming she won't be able to confirm this.

I do have a citizenship, but I don't remember it; Remind me if I don't answer that question the next time I post on BWS.

Titan · Post Post #7960 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:03 pm

Ugh

I'm about to crash and did not get a chance o read that game. I'll try tomorrow.

Also I want to kick myself repeatedly. After bring *_* to making bws unblock able! I hot worried he'd be the nightkill and red gyarados made it sound like he had a night action and since he'd claimed to have been blocked before! I'm hanging with them now.

Apparently I'm just the worst at using this role.

CarbonFiber · Post Post #7961 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:14 pm

Sorry, I wasn't getting through the typos clearly. You made RG unblockable?

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7962 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:04 pm

In post 7958, CarbonFiber wrote:Okay, just to be clear, you should have visited me N4 and found out my role because that's what Fox did N3? And it turns out you got nothing?

Do you think Fox is lying about their role/night actions? From your POV, they correctly found out that you were an Artist. Where do you think the issue is?

No? If my target uses a night action (role PM says active ability), then I get to copy that action and use it myself on the next night. So, I was supposed to get what I think is a rolecop to use on D4. It doesn't say I have to do what they did with it (and I wouldn't have bothered using it to check you, there are other unclaimed/need to be confirmed roles out there).

But my action didn't fail as far as I'm aware of and I got nothing. Just an empty PM and a burned shot. And Cabd told me that as long as MY action succeeds, it doesn't matter what happened to my targets actions.

The issue with Fox's claims is him claiming to have targeted someone N3.

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7963 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:05 pm

In post 7960, Titan wrote:Apparently I'm just the worst at using this role.

You and me both, Tammy, you and me both...

But if it's any consolation, I did target Fox solely because I think they crumbed/claimed to have a night action. It was the main reason why I wanted to check them on N3 (so I wouldn't block myself).

CarbonFiber · Post Post #7964 (ISO) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:11 pm

Okay, I get it now. I'm still not sure I buy that Fox targeted no one N3 and then lied about it. It is possible but unlikely regardless of their affiliation.

You said on D4 that you thought that Fox was town but might end up voting them anyway. Why?

Titan · Post Post #7965 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:09 am

In post 7961, CarbonFiber wrote:Sorry, I wasn't getting through the typos clearly. You made RG unblockable?

Sorry. Posting from phone while on the verge of passing out. Yes, I made RG unblockable.

The Fox and the Hound · Post Post #7966 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:36 am

I want to get the massclaim details sorted out, but at the moment I can say that I'm happy with where our vote is.

This weekend is when I'll really be able to get stuck into things (this'll probably be more reading and reflecting than anything else though). Sorry for my lack of involvement so far.

-DV

Breakfast With Sandy · Post Post #7967 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:56 am

Back in action; I'm a citizen of Karegia.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #7968 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:40 am

In post 7949, CarbonFiber wrote:Also, AP are you a child/adult/beast? And Male/Female?

Adult Male I believe.

In post 7952, Red Gyarados wrote:N3: Fox. Notty and I both thought AP was going to be a scumlynch after what happened Day 3. We decided to check either Fox/PA, and I convinced him that we should check Fox. My role didn't fail, but I didn't receive anything in return (I actually had no idea what role Fox had, but I didn't want to give up any leverage of what my result on them could be). According to Cabd (I went great lengths to make sure I understood how my role worked), it shouldn't matter whether or not their role fails. As long as my role succeeds and they take a night action, I should be able to copy them. I can verify this with him again if you want me to.

Errrrr. So you knew you were blocked on N2 because you still had your 1-shot left? You didn't after N3, but you also didn't get to take any action? They knew your role name though so the only way they are BSing is if they are scum and someone else on their team is actually a flavor cop? Which seems..unlikely?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #7969 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:42 am

In post 7959, Belisarius wrote:N4: Followed CF, results to Tammy, but no result so I'm presuming she won't be able to confirm this.

In post 7940, The Fox and the Hound wrote:N3: CF, we were blocked

Has anyone actually successfully targeted CF?

magenta_thegreat · Post Post #7970 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:31 am

In post 7951, CarbonFiber wrote:

6 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

Name of character: Ragou
Role Claim: Town D1 Self-Governor + Pedophilic roleblock/stop
Age: ?????
Gender: ?????
Game: Tales of Vesperia
N1: AngryPidgeon
N2: ?????
N3: ?????
N4: "Who I targeted last night should be pretty fucking obvious at this point and with the revelation of this role, I don't know how you think RG is lying, or why he would be doing so if he was scum."

N4 belongs in N3

Pedophilia: a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.

we are male

Roleblocker: A role that prevents it's targets abilities from working
Rolestopper: A role that prevents pther roles from working on it's target

we cannot chose either or, we do both. we take our target into the dungeons preventing from doing any actions, while simultaneously making them immune to other night actions

Pigey
Gary
Stalin
Stalin

of which, Pigey is the only one who failed. I wanted to "protect" Tammy, but I think she had claimed adult somewhere

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7971 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:14 am

In post 7968, AngryPidgeon wrote:Errrrr. So you knew you were blocked on N2 because you still had your 1-shot left? You didn't after N3, but you also didn't get to take any action? They knew your role name though so the only way they are BSing is if they are scum and someone else on their team is actually a flavor cop? Which seems..unlikely?

Something interfered with my shot on N2. That's the only reason why I got to keep my shot. If I target someone that doesn't have a night action, that just burns my shot and I get nothing. You claimed to have tried to cop three people that night. So if nothing had interfered with my shot, I would have had a 3p cop check or whatever your role is to use on N3. Since I got to keep my shot, I know something interfered with my action. Plus, Cabd told me my 'role failed.'

I used my shot again on Fox N3. They claimed to have targeted Falcon. If their claim is true, I should have been able to copy and use their night action on N4. Instead, I didn't get anything. Which means they're lying or there's some mystery effect I'm not considering that you think is in this game.

Yes, they're right about me being an Artist. Which makes me think they're claiming something like flavorcop or rolecop. If Fox is scum, then they probably have one on their team. But that doesn't mean they have to be one themselves.

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7972 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:20 am

In post 7964, CarbonFiber wrote:You said on D4 that you thought that Fox was town but might end up voting them anyway. Why?

I thought they could be town. But it was because I was tunneling the Nacho/AP/JSU scumteam I had in mind. And I wasn't reading their posts. But outside of those three, I thought that one of PA/Fox could have been the fourth member.

I was suspicious of Fox, but I had limited information. There was always the possibility of them being an even-night role like what JSU claimed to be or some other reason that might explain my role failing. But they're not claiming that here.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #7973 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:52 am

In post 7971, Red Gyarados wrote:Yes, they're right about me being an Artist. Which makes me think they're claiming something like flavorcop or rolecop. If Fox is scum, then they probably have one on their team. But that doesn't mean they have to be one themselves.

They did claim flavor cop. This just seems really unlikely though. If they have a buddy who is actually what they are claiming, then they get turbolynched if that person flips.

Are you like 100% sure you understand how your role works?

Red Gyarados · Post Post #7974 (ISO) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:39 am

I've told you everything I know about my role and my actions. So if you think there's something I'm missing that might make you believe I'm wrong, then please, I'm all ears.