In post 1131, Jingle wrote: In post 1120, Titus wrote:1) First, going after ika is not a subtle action, particularly for me. Going after ika and being wrong is very likely to get me dead. He and I have a bit of a complicated relationship.
2) Second, when the hell did I tell Anti not to get angry bc I was wrong? That is bullshit.
3) Yes, I tunnel as scum. What's the relevance?
4) I don't remember how many games. The two that stand out are Geology (you were scum) and U pick (I was scum)
5) As scum, I don't bus. You saw it in Upick, where I always had a better place to vote. So SSK is obvious scum so I start the day wanting to killhim? Logical disconnect.
6) You say it was all toen's fault but your actions ibdicate another. I did a jedi mind trick on Trollie that caused his meltdown. I whiteknighted the rber to ensure the math was off and no one solved bus driver. I told you how to solve the game but you ignored it bc I was scum.
My play here is totally different than Upick. I am not in control of anything. I can't get SSK really talked about even though ika wants to lynch him. I haf to kick and scream to get every inch because of my stupid meta barring players from seeing me as a goid townie.
1. Self Meta. I'm not even going to argue that part. The safe action here is that you were going after a particularly scummy player. (IKA was objectively scummy, and if you want to argue that point go ahead.) The scummy action here is scumreading IKA for SSK's behavior. (Your ISO at the beginning of D2.)
2. I told Anti not to get angry that your logic is mysterious and hard to follow, before having read any of your posts, because he was genuine raging in his ISO at you and I thought there was a chance he wasn't being objective.
3. This is one of the four points I even referenced your meta. And you admit that I'm right. And you say that I'm basing my argument off of twisted meta.
4. We've also played in a couple marathons, but that's it for real, meta-able games. (I keep track of all of mine, though I don't do a wiki.) The point is, that I don't think two games, especially those two games, is enough to justify your statements that I should be able to build a meta read on you.
5. Self meta. I'm not going to take this at face value. I might do a meta dive if I have time to work this out. You started the day wanting to kill IKA and SSK and focusing on IKA without making any arguments for SSK, despite him being scum in your eyes. Right now I've got a strong scumread on you, and a different, independent strong scumread on SSK. Voting SSK gives absolutely no towncred in my eyes, because this is exactly where scum would bus.
6. This is the last I will discuss this. Your play in UDesign was good. Not oh-my-god scummy nom amazing, but good. I am never bitter when someone wins because they played well. I am bitter because of:
On a non-game related note, I think you are a decent player as either alignment. (Again, not the scariest scum or town, but definitely good.) I just don't think your logic is something I'll ever be able to follow.
On a game related note, Please respond to:
In post 1027, Titus wrote:
He also omitted my attempts to get the conversation to turn to SSK. When it didn't I tried to go with the will of the group, then Anti obvscummed.
I'm sorry, I must have missed this. Links please? Same with my 'meta arguments.'
Also, what the fuck am I supposed to be seeing in your ISO? I see a push on IKA, and no push on SSK, and you scumreading both. Is there something obvtown I'm apparently missing, because I have no idea why you just pointed me at a part of the game that I was scumreading you for.
