Tales of You (Endgame)

[Titan]

i've already said.

i can't be of any help this game. i'm sorry i feel so lost. i'm sorry i can't help, but i'm just not in a place to really be helpful in mafia right now.

i'm also not going to be around for nearly a week.

but seriously, if you think penguin is scum, you need to lynch me.

SEE PIDGEON NOT ALWAYS.

[Red Gyarados]

I'd be more convinced if this happened very quickly after you cc'd them as opposed to after being prodded about it.

You're seriously giving me shit about this

I asking about Magenta. My case on Magenta was a rehash of the points that me, JSU, and Tammy and already put forth at the beginning of the day. So, if you were reading closely, you'd have already been convinced. But then you asked for what I had on Magenta and I just repeated those points and you said you were convinced. I want to know why repeating the same points a second time convinced you when they originally hadn't.

I don't know. Wasn't paying attention the first time. Fox is still scum.

no it's not trust me.

if you think there's even the slightest chance penguin is scum you need to lynch me.

^When shit like this continues to happen in this game?

Seriously, Falcon? I still stand by the inconsistencies between my role and Fox's claim.

But until Titan seriously explains to me what the fuck is going on, I still think Fox is scum. Because I can't think of any logical explanation how my role's result and Fox's N3 action can coexist.

[CarbonFiber]

Tammy, it's going to be okay. Don't worry about posting analysis or anything. I know how this game has turned out and I understand why you feel lost. If you don't want to post, that's fine. I'm about 100% convinced you are town right now so you could prod-dodge for the rest of the day and no one will vote you. Don't feel obligated to help either. You've done more than anyone else did this game (1000+ genuine scumhunting posts). You've done more than enough.

I am still not sure I understand your role. If Penguin placed a delayed kill on you, it makes sense to lynch her and not you, doesn't it?

As for whether I think Penguin is scum, I am leaning scum, yeah based on what I know of her play. I am not sure though and I was looking forward to hearing what you wanted to say about her.

[CarbonFiber]

I'd be more convinced if this happened very quickly after you cc'd them as opposed to after being prodded about it.

You're seriously giving me shit about this

I asking about Magenta. My case on Magenta was a rehash of the points that me, JSU, and Tammy and already put forth at the beginning of the day. So, if you were reading closely, you'd have already been convinced. But then you asked for what I had on Magenta and I just repeated those points and you said you were convinced. I want to know why repeating the same points a second time convinced you when they originally hadn't.

I don't know. Wasn't paying attention the first time. Fox is still scum.

no it's not trust me.

if you think there's even the slightest chance penguin is scum you need to lynch me.

^When shit like this continues to happen in this game?

Well, Tammy is functionally an Innocent Child so I don't feel the need to comment on it. Not sure what your point is there.

Seriously, Falcon? I still stand by the inconsistencies between my role and Fox's claim.

But until Titan seriously explains to me what the fuck is going on, I still think Fox is scum. Because I can't think of any logical explanation how my role's result and Fox's N3 action can coexist.

I get that the inconsistency hasn't been explained. I still think a better way to go would be Magenta.

We know Titan/Stalin/JSU aren't scum. I'm not scum and you seem to agree. That leaves five players out of which are three scum. One of {AP,Fox} at the most but not both based on my role saying that there are multiple cops. Two of {RG, Penguin, Magenta}. So, it actually makes more sense to lynch Magenta.
We know AP/Fox aren't scum together

[CarbonFiber]

Oh, and if you don't believe that JSU is conftown, it is still one scum at most from {JSU, AP, Fox} since we know there is more than one cop.

[Red Gyarados]

I get that the inconsistency hasn't been explained. I still think a better way to go would be Magenta.

[CarbonFiber]

What do you think of the rest of my logic?

[Red Gyarados]

We know Titan/Stalin/JSU aren't scum. I'm not scum and you seem to agree. That leaves five players out of which are three scum. One of {AP,Fox} at the most but not both based on my role saying that there are multiple cops. Two of {RG, Penguin, Magenta}. So, it actually makes more sense to lynch Magenta.
We know AP/Fox aren't scum together

I don't know what you keep smoking because I want some.

There is almost certainly at least one scum in {RG, Fox}. Hint:

It's not me.

[Red Gyarados]

What do you think of the rest of my logic?

It's shit. You need to reevaluate the options you keep making in your life.

[Titan]

what is scum is trying to get you to lynch town today because it doesn't matter because i'll be the extra kill?

you need to lynch me if you think penguin is scum. that erases the potential extra kill!

[Red Gyarados]

I'm taking a break from this ridiculous game right now.

Fox is still scum. We can continue this tomorrow.

[CarbonFiber]

Then shouldn't we lynch Penguin? I don't care about the extra kill if we lynch scum. If she does happen to be town, then there is no extra kill because you are saying it is possible she placed one on you. (Unless I am misunderstanding how her role works).

Also, since she hasn't shown up, do you mind claiming what her actual role is?

And you said before that town-me would want to talk to you about your frustration. You were right.

[Titan]

All i know is that she told me that she watched me night one and tracked me night two. I wasn't visited by anyone night one. I got frustrated with myself that I told her that my role was passive, before she could tell me that she tracked me to nowhere night two. She also gave me something, that I can use and potentially catch scum if I use it correctly. It is verified that she gave me something night two. She also got some type of benefit from the gift she gave me but I don't know what.

My problem is if she gave me something that will kill me if I try to use it or just kills me outright, then it's a scum gift, and it would be perfect as an extra kill just at lylo. I'm not dead yet, after blatantly softing yesterday that I had something that if I use it correctly will guarantee me a scum catch and scum doesn't kill me??? To get rid of what they supposedly don't know I have???

If I'm an extra kill then I need to die and need to die before LyLo.

[Titan]

i'm just kinda not in a very good mafia place either but I really think that this is a good way to go!

[CarbonFiber]

All of that is still dependent on Penguin being scum. So, if we lynch Penguin and she is scum, we won't be at LYLO tomorrow. We'll still be a lynch away from LYLO. If she flips scum, then we can revisit this conversation. If she is town, then she didn't give you anything and there is no extra kill. So, we have 9 players: 3 scum, 6 town. Two scenarios:

1) Penguin is scum: We lynch Penguin. It will be 2-6. Scum nightkill someone. Titan dies through an extra kill. We will be at 6 players (2-4) MYLO. That's not too bad. If you are not dead yet, then we'll be at 7 players (5 town, 2 scum). If you suspect you'll die upon using it, then don't use it.

2) Penguin is town: We've just mislynched. We will be at 3-4. LYLO. There'll be no extra kills. We scumhunt to find scum.

I am still not seeing the benefit to lynching you over Penguin. Check my math.

[CarbonFiber]

Unless you are saying you don't want to risk mislynching town-Penguin from a personal/emotional standpoint and would rather lynch yourself just to avoid it.

[Titan]

No I'm concerned that Magenta is somehow town and that scum have set up their lynch because it doesn't matter, with a town lynch and two town deaths tonight scum will win.

I mean I get it, people would have to be absolutely insane to think I'm scum here. What this game has done to me is something that can't happen to me as scum. I literally told cabd that I hoped I started drawing scum roles because i couldn't take how lost i'm feeling in mafia right now. Me. Saying I want to be scum.

I mean yay I was right about nacho, and my gut was right about bork too even though people were calling him super obvtownie, but i still feel lost and nowhere close to solving this.

i feel like i'm whining at this point, but i just don't know what to do, but if i'm an extra kill I need to be lynched so that I'm not a liability.

[CarbonFiber]

I won't discount Magenta being town and it would make sense for Nacho to die quietly if that's the case. Perhaps it is best to not rush into a lynch then and consider all options. What are your reads on me and JSU at this point?

[Titan]

my reads are all over the place and they don't matter because all i ended up doing was getting in a bad mood tonight!

[Titan]

also i have to pick up my family from the airport in a few hours and i haven't slept yet so i get to whine about it!

[CarbonFiber]

The game hasn't been great I know and it is probably one I want to forget soon after it is after. But watch this, it is pretty awesome.

[CarbonFiber]

* soon after it is over.

[Titan]

I'm independently, from this game, in a bad mood.

[CarbonFiber]

Do you want to talk about it?

[Titan]

No, but thank you <3 , what I want is to fall asleep before I pick my family up from the airport.