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Post Post #8075 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:06 pm

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Votecount 5-2


With 9 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

meganeta_thegreat (3): Just Sheep Us, The Fox and the Hound, CarbonFiber
CarbonFiber (1): Magenta_thegreat
The Fox and the Hound (1): Red Gyarados
Titan (1): Titan

Not Voting (3): Breakfast With Stalin, Penguin_Alien, AngryPidgeon

(expired on 2014-06-12 20:31:43)
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Post Post #8076 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:06 pm

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But Fox seriously needs to get in here and offer their take on the situation.
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Post Post #8077 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:09 pm

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In post 8071, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 8067, AngryPidgeon wrote:I'd like to hear your off the cuff thoughts right now even if you dont like them yet.
Off the cuff: Scum have daytalk. This would be very easy to coordinate in a scum/scum situation.
I guess I could see it? ITs sort of making me want to lynch outside them.

The thing weirding me out is Fox's general apathy and RGs flip-flop on how important this is to him.
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Post Post #8078 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:10 pm

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In post 8077, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 8071, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 8067, AngryPidgeon wrote:I'd like to hear your off the cuff thoughts right now even if you dont like them yet.
Off the cuff: Scum have daytalk. This would be very easy to coordinate in a scum/scum situation.
I guess I could see it? ITs sort of making me want to lynch outside them.

The thing weirding me out is Fox's general apathy and RGs flip-flop on how important this is to him.
Why does the possibility of it being scum-scum make you want to lynch outside of them?
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Post Post #8079 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:11 pm

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WAIT A MINUTE.

WAS THAT THE SAME NIGHT AS KATSUKI'S ACTION?

OK totally random theory, but what if Katsuki's action got bussed/redirected onto one of these 2 somehow? Would that possibly explain this weirdness?
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Post Post #8080 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:23 pm

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AP, why do you want to lynch outside RG/Fox if you think it is scum v scum?
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Post Post #8081 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:29 pm

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I think you misunderstand what I'm thinking. My gut response is to avoid looking at them today which makes me sort of agree with JSus theory on a gut level. If you wanna know who I think is scum with them if that is the case then I dunno.
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Post Post #8082 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:30 pm

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Also it would be greaaat if JSU could confirm fox by tracking them but that's a long wait.
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Post Post #8083 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:30 pm

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Ah, okay. That makes more sense.
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Post Post #8084 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:39 pm

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Whoever indicated that I should be here, I am sorta V/LA-ish right now, that's why I'm not all up in this shit. Not enough so that I felt the need to declare it, but all the same. I will be more here on Monday.

As for my brief take, I'm not sure what needs saying. It looks like a direct CC. The reason I want to find a way for it to be town is because I don't see why they would CC us as scum when it's not lylo, unless they are scum with magenta. Somewhere they would have to think they're getting a mislynch other than us; perhaps they think trading 1/1 is more likely to work now than getting us lynched would be in lylo (I happen to agree with them), and they're hoping to mislynch...probably PA, in that event?... after us.

That or we're the last necessary mislynch and Tammy's thing is still somehow death. In which event I'd be forced to argue the scumteam as RG/PA/magenta.

I want to lynch RG, naturally; FMPOV they are very likely to be scum. And I almost have to suppose that they're scum because blah blah Shaheed's Law blah (if they are town, when one of us is lynched the other will certainly be lynched the following day, and we're totally screwed-- so I don't think that scenario is even worth considering?)
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Post Post #8085 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:41 pm

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So I started that post with the idea that I should consider how RG could be town, and by the time I finished writing it I realized that considering that idea is actually just kind of stupid. If he is and he's lynched today, it would be very very easy for scum to lynch us after that, so it's basically a pointless exercise.
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Post Post #8086 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:44 pm

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Since we are all agreed that Magenta is scum, AP, how do you feel about lynching Magenta today?

I have no idea yet what to make of the cc's. All I know is I have a stunningly strong scumread on Magenta based on Mara's post about Nacho not to mention other interactions.
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Post Post #8087 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:51 pm

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Also, Penguin it will be awesome if you show up and place your vote somewhere useful.
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Post Post #8088 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:12 pm

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In post 8086, CarbonFiber wrote:Since we are all agreed that Magenta is scum, AP, how do you feel about lynching Magenta today?
Feeling sort of blanked in this game after the site outage. Let me try and figure out how I feel about everything soonish.
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Post Post #8089 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:22 pm

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In post 8079, AngryPidgeon wrote:WAIT A MINUTE.

WAS THAT THE SAME NIGHT AS KATSUKI'S ACTION?

OK totally random theory, but what if Katsuki's action got bussed/redirected onto one of these 2 somehow? Would that possibly explain this weirdness?
No, it wasn't the same night. And I think that if I had gotten delayed, I wouldn't have been given my shot back. At the very least, if I did get delayed, I should have been able to use YOUR role because that was the night I targeted you.
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Post Post #8090 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:26 pm

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@ Brian, so here's my deal: I will consider your case on Fox tomorrow, really really consider it if you help me lynch Magenta today. There are many more votes on Magenta right now and you agree with my case and it is really quite obvious that they are scum here. I know that you think Fox is scum but think about it from the POV of someone who doesn't know whether you or Fox are lying and realize that from the POV of the rest of the town, Magenta is the better lynch. I wanted to lynch Fox D4 but we worked together and went for Nacho instead. Let's do it again and go for Magenta.
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Post Post #8091 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:33 pm

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Totally lost here still, but claiming, right.

I'm Gaius, Town Charismatic King

I have four sub-people who I sent out on paired missions: Presa-Wingull to watch-track the same player on sequential nights (N1 no one visited Tammy, N2 Tammy visited no one). Then Agria-Jiao to deliver a present-do something to me on N3/N4 respectively. The second action doesn't happen unless the first one is successful; otherwise it's automatic. I told Tammy about the present before delivering it, but there is zero reason to claim it in-thread. And Tammy, stop self-voting FFS. My present isn't going to kill you, so knock it off.

Claiming the second pair of actions more specifically is a really bad idea. If Tammy wants to straight-up claim, I won't stop her, and I've told her that in the neighborhood. I think. It's been a while. But seriously, if I was going to give her something bad, I wouldn't TELL her I was giving her something. Sheesh, not complete idiot, TYVM.

I'm an adult male, citizen of Rise Maxia? From Xillia.

RG-F&H looks weird, but if we hit scum today we can sort them later. Leaning Magenta, but I want to read their ISO again, and I don't want to leave it open for them to self-hammer and end the day before JSU can post their thoughts.

...which is to say my vote won't be going somewhere more useful for now.

BWS, how do you feel about lynching Magenta rather than RG-F&H?
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Post Post #8092 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:36 pm

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Penguin, what happened to your suspicion of me?

And also, if they self-hammer, then GOOD. We have a scum lynch. 324 pages. I could give a shit for more discussion to be entirely frank.
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Post Post #8093 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:45 pm

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You finally voted a lynch wagon and it was for scum. Cutting you some slack for now.

I'll vote Magenta tomorrow once I hear from BWS at least.
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Post Post #8094 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:47 pm

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Vote now and indulge my impatience to see a second scum lynch and I'll send you and Cabd a giant vase of exotic flowers.
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Post Post #8095 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:51 pm

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Make them alstroemerias and you have a deal.

VOTE: Magenta

L-1, yadda, yadda. Give me flowers.
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Post Post #8096 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:54 pm

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There you go!

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Post Post #8097 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:03 pm

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Brian, Beli, AP, hammer's all yours. I want to see who gets it first and it'll be awesome if we get it tonight.
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Post Post #8098 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:24 pm

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Ok, I've spent what time I could get today reading and I have a pretty decent idea of what I think now, not that I actually feel confident in anything but still.

Regarding RG, I'm not with Ceph in thinking that they're scum because of their claim. I don't think it's scummy for someone with a not-straightforward role result to become more sure of it over time and I think there's definitely enough potential for something to have happened that makes their claim genuine. I still think it's possible for them to be scum, but I don't the claim makes it especially likely.

I am, however, in agreement with Ceph about Magenta being a good lynch and I'm happy going with that.
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Post Post #8099 (ISO) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm

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I swear to fucking god, if Ceph is scum and we end up losing the game here, I'm yelling at every townie remaining in this game.

And no.

I'm not voting for Magenta you fucking derps.
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