Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Aegor]

TSO, I read your ISO and catchup post that included your Xayzeck vote, but it did not really explain what you found hella scummy in this posts. Would you please elaborate?

[T S O]

Do I really have to do this?

Everything. Quite literally, everything. The catch-up has labeled posts I felt were bad - I actually began to skip posts which were scummy because I would be rehashing the same stuff. Quote me what you disagree with the catch-up, and I'll converse with you, but there's no point making a case when it's so damn obvious he's scum.

[Aegor]

Yes, given that your argument is that he is obviously scum. That is a bad argument.

#36 gives me my first scumread of the game in Xayzeck - I've seen him as both alignments and the OMGUS part doesn't fit with my memories of town-Xay.

He mentioned OMGUS as a joke and that suggests he is scum because of some meta? Either I am missing some damning clue here or this is total bullshit.

#63 is more weirdness from Xayzeck - getting a feeling I'm onto something here.

What is weird?

#101 Xayzeck is officially scumfuck #1.

What bothers you? Lack of concern about votes? Denial of baiting?

more Xayzeck being scum, especially #199

How on earth is this scummy?

[T S O]

This is more like it.

Time to get to work.

[T S O]

But it could be my omgus speaking

Why was this included at all? He's trying really hard to appear Town by putting this in and there's no need for it.

"This is my opinion, but I AM affected by biases as a true Town man!"

I think townmastin would be more confident in her(his?) Reads even at this game stage

Mastin would be confident of their reads on page 2? More confident than labeling players prob-town on page 1 for one post? Yeah, bullshit.

Wishywashy because I have to im afraid

What is this? Is it fake fear, fake paranoia? It's not a joke; it's too edgy to be a joke. It's this weird halfway house where you can't really tell what's going on and it feels really forced.

But eh not too concerned about the votes

False bravado when there's no need for it stinks of scum trying to seem nonchalant.

i don't think mastin is town

and i think jordan is town

i'm quite liking the idea of mastin and tmct being scum together

Well, all the reads are wrong, but that's not necessarily scummy in itself. However, the justification for the last sentence is shockingly bad, as you'll see below.

i'll join the bigger wagon tyvm

VOTE: TMCT

At post #112, the only interaction Xayzeck had with TMCT was where TMCT voted him. That was it, finito. At least he -had- thoughts about mastin, you could see where he was coming from with his suspicion if he voted him - but this is out of the blue. The only reason he's doing it is because the wagon is larger than mastin's. It's scummy that he's deciding to vote someone he's less sure of because their wagon is larger.

i'm quite liking the idea of mastin and tmct being scum together

What do you see as connecting them?

tmct jumping on the wagon that necro started

and something else I can't quite remember. probably an interaction that they had but maybe it's just the wagon thing

This is such a horrible way to connect two players. Firstly, it's minimal as fuck - if anything, this is a disassociation, because scum don't just jump onto the wagons their partners form so blatantly. But secondly, it's very vague and gives him the benefit of the doubt whether an association actually ever existed or not if someone calls him out on it, while simultaneously giving the impression there was one.

(Incidentally, if Xayzeck flips scum, I'll be looking to Necro as a possible partner for the voting of TMCT over them despite excessive attention on mastin.)

are you really going to push the fact I called your slot mastin and how it doesn't add up?

because thinking about it now that's dumb

It's not dumb at all when you knew the hydra's name was Necro, called mastin scummy and then said "Well, actually, you're mastin as well, y'see!" even though he specifically called the hydra Necro 80 posts previous to this one. It's you trying to pretend you were always calling Antihero scum and doing a bad job of it.

why would I explain why I called your slot mastin

because I surely don't know myself

If I did explain it, that would be making up a reason to cover myself from pressure that isn't even alignment indicative

but that doesn't seem to be your problem, so:
I had initial problems with mastin
I had further problems with you
I continued to call your slot mastin because I was too lazy to find out hydra name

Any problems you have with that? Because since then I've been mostly referring to your slot as Necro instead of mastin/hero

This makes no fucking sense at all and doesn't explain or mitigate him calling Antihero mastin whatssever.

biggest problem I have with this push is that's it's stupid, and doesn't show how I could be scum or town

Well, you blatantly lying in your response and then posting some intelligible trash points pretty clearly to you being scum, actually.

i'm developing a read on your slot now

and right now it's not looking good

Why not just say you think he's scummy? Why is this so elaborately worded as to give the impression that if you agree with him, his opinion can change to better horizons? It's so weaselly and underhanded!

yeah I do want you to scumread them, but I'm not going to force it on you.

Translation: "I have my reads, but I feel no read to explain them or convince others of them, because I enjoy keeping my views to myself as Town ...wait, shit, that's not right!"

it was also an attempt to start interacting with you so I can read you, and what a lovely response.

This is overly nice and buddy-ish, when he realises Doublade isn't fobbed off as easily as others.

I don't think it's alignment indicative that Flay hasn't gotten their hydra up

As opposed to what? Flay delaying the hydra set-up due to it rolling scum here?

But lovely response, you're probably town

He felt the need to post twice how great your response was and label you prob-town on one post. Twice. Tell me this rings alarm bells.

[Xayzeck]

Why was this included at all? He's trying really hard to appear Town by putting this in and there's no need for it.

"This is my opinion, but I AM affected by biases as a true Town man!"

they call it being honest

Mastin would be confident of their reads on page 2? More confident than labeling players prob-town on page 1 for one post? Yeah, bullshit.

from my experience with her, yeah she had pretty confident reads early game.

What is this? Is it fake fear, fake paranoia? It's not a joke; it's too edgy to be a joke. It's this weird halfway house where you can't really tell what's going on and it feels really forced.

now if you actually fucking read my ISO i clarify this because my only other game with mastin was normalish micro, which was ongoing, and only just ended. That's why I couldn't explicitly say why I felt her not being confident in her early reads could be scummy.

False bravado when there's no need for it stinks of scum trying to seem nonchalant.

and notice how i still don't care about votes

but this shit case of yours though it's so bad I have to tell you it's bad so that I can get on with my life with a free concious

At post #112, the only interaction Xayzeck had with TMCT was where TMCT voted him. That was it, finito. At least he -had- thoughts about mastin, you could see where he was coming from with his suspicion if he voted him - but this is out of the blue. The only reason he's doing it is because the wagon is larger than mastin's. It's scummy that he's deciding to vote someone he's less sure of because their wagon is larger.

I never once said Necro was more likely scum than TMCT, so this entire thing is bullshit, except that I hardly interacted with TMCT. But me not interacting with someone and having a scumread on them, does reveal anything alignment indicative. Again, all bullshit.

This is such a horrible way to connect two players. Firstly, it's minimal as fuck - if anything, this is a disassociation, because scum don't just jump onto the wagons their partners form so blatantly. But secondly, it's very vague and gives him the benefit of the doubt whether an association actually ever existed or not if someone calls him out on it, while simultaneously giving the impression there was one.

I have said numerous times in the thread it was about the wagon hopping. The post you're talking about was me saying "the wagon hop and smth else, not sure if they was smth else tho could just be the wagon hop". So it pretty clearly states I connect the 2 for the wagon hop, I don't know what you're going on about in this quote because, once again, all bullshit.

It's not dumb at all when you knew the hydra's name was Necro, called mastin scummy and then said "Well, actually, you're mastin as well, y'see!" even though he specifically called the hydra Necro 80 posts previous to this one. It's you trying to pretend you were always calling Antihero scum and doing a bad job of it.

holy. fucking. shit. not this bullshit againg.
fucking, go to my iso, search for "Necro". The first time I actually fucking used Necro was 117
Not fucking search "mastin". Prior to 117 I refer to mastin as the player.
AFTER FUCKING 117 IT'S TO ADDRESS THIS BULLSHIT WITH ANTI.
holy shit.
this is the most useless thing in your entire case against me.
because it's so dumb.
FUCK.

This makes no fucking sense at all and doesn't explain or mitigate him calling Antihero mastin whatssever.

not alignment indicative.

Well, you blatantly lying in your response and then posting some intelligible trash points pretty clearly to you being scum, actually.

you should only expect bad responses from bad pushes

jk lame my response were perfectly fine and it just feels like you're reaching out for anything to paint me as scum at this point

Why not just say you think he's scummy? Why is this so elaborately worded as to give the impression that if you agree with him, his opinion can change to better horizons? It's so weaselly and underhanded!

HOLY SHIT REALLY

WHY CAN'T YOU GIVE ME LIKE AN ANIME MOMENT

WHERE I SAY SHIT ALL COOL

AND NOT CALL IT SCUMMY

THIS TOO IS FUCKING STUPID B FGJ VINFB VNSBGKNRCE

Translation: "I have my reads, but I feel no read to explain them or convince others of them, because I enjoy keeping my views to myself as Town ...wait, shit, that's not right!"

was being friendly because marquis gave me a long as wall that I was not expecting. like she brought up the fact that them not being a hydra may affect reads and shit, it was something I didn't think of. I felt her response was super town, especially since it felt super helpful

This is overly nice and buddy-ish, when he realises Doublade isn't fobbed off as easily as others.

was being friendly because of above

As opposed to what? Flay delaying the hydra set-up due to it rolling scum here?

now you're just quoting random shit and throwing suspicion all over it. It's getting irritating.

Marq says that them not being a hydra may affect reads.
I say it's not alignment indicative that Flay hasn't gotten their hydra set up AKA it's not their choice they aren't using their hydra, and whether or not their hydra is set up doesn't affect their alignment, so I don't understand why Marq thinks them not being a hydra may affect reads.
Marq clarifies with something I forgot

now that that is out of the way, I don't know what the fuck you're trying to get at with this quote

but if you manage to twist something alignment indicative out of this shit

i'm probably going to run myself into the fucking wall

He felt the need to post twice how great your response was and label you prob-town on one post. Twice. Tell me this rings alarm bells.

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[Xayzeck]

i skimmed your post on my phone, and i honestly thought you were town for it

now that i'm on a computer and i've addressed everything

i'm starting to to think otherwise

because majority of the case is just

BEOUIRFHONLKFBN9AUIR

[Xayzeck]

Well, it depends, but right then, not much, I mean I was mainly just looking for something to push you on, but you've done it twice now. If you're honestly scum reading someone, why would you complain about people voting them? It's weird.

he voted because of 48 IIRC

so i went to check out the post

and I saw nothing alignment indicative whatsoever

i think it was less important to me that we shared scumreads, and more important to me that I should figure out what he was thinking, or what he saw so I could better understand his mindset

which is of course, how you figure out someone's alignment

now please fucking let this go, this is fucking stupid.

[Xayzeck]

you know what

fuck you TSO

VOTE: TSO

[Xayzeck]

VOTE: xayzeck

obligatory sheeping

also i don't know what happened to my mastin thoughts or where they were when i was voting him but i will keep you informed if i ever manage to retrieve them

[marquis]

bad sheep

[Xayzeck]

I meant which posts.

about the defending pushing thing?

, [post]78, 89

though not so much on 68

[Xayzeck]

68 78 89

sorry

[Shiny Hydreigon]

a lot of postings by L (Mara) who hates being scum

Stop it. Mara is at least competent at scum

I feel loved. What does that have to do with whether or not I like the alignment, though? Rach is right, I hate that being scum and I often complain about it before getting seriously into the game

I am also completely aware of the fact that, Mastin's stance on Talah is strong enough so that, arguing against it is probably futile, leaving her alive long enough will pretty much be a huge distraction to mastin, and him flipping town would probably serve as a strong enough catalyst in making a hard-reset D2 which will probably make mastin that much more useful as town

I hope you are aware of how terrible this reasoning is. First, it assumes that mastin is town. Second, you are essentially advocating lynching a player who may be town so that another obsessive player may be useful in the future. Really?

Uhh... no? I take it you aren't a very guts/emotive/relationship type of player, because if you were you would know the difficulty behind making reads on players with said relationship, and how unlikely it is for a read on them to be change

[Shiny Hydreigon]

~L

[The Necromancers]

Mod

: Please insert a space between the words on our username.

[Xayzeck]

finally got your hydra huh

[The Necromancers]

yep.

don't worry, though. this account will be at the top of the activity overview by the end of the week

[Spring Starflower]

yep.

don't worry, though. this account will be at the top of the activity overview by the end of the week

unless you spam like what saki did in FE:A,

i dont think so

[Xayzeck]

not looking forward to it

[The Necromancers]

...it's a joke...

lighten up goddamnit

[Xayzeck]

not looking forward to it

like that?

[Spring Starflower]

u r lame

[Xayzeck]

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

really, do folks get away with just saying I got a power role, Buh bye?

[Saki]

you know what

fuck you TSO

VOTE: TSO

TSO isn't even worth a vote btw