Tales of You (Endgame)

[AngryPidgeon]

ok so who other than Cephrir is scum?

Ive been skimming some old pages and kind of remembering where Im at.

[Red Gyarados]

@ Brian, so here's my deal: I will consider your case on Fox tomorrow, really really consider it if you help me lynch Magenta today. There are many more votes on Magenta right now and you agree with my case and it is really quite obvious that they are scum here. I know that you think Fox is scum but think about it from the POV of someone who doesn't know whether you or Fox are lying and realize that from the POV of the rest of the town, Magenta is the better lynch. I wanted to lynch Fox D4 but we worked together and went for Nacho instead. Let's do it again and go for Magenta.

Same guy that promised me AP yesterday if I helped you lynch Nacho.

[AngryPidgeon]

So me. got it. awesome.

[Titan]

i want flowers

....

UNVOTE:

i just got yelled out. i really doubt i'll be here relly before the day is out.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Is it a good idea to put the hammer in the hand of a guy in a super-bloodthirsty mood?

LET'S FIND OUT!

VOTE: magenta_thegreat

[Yulia Jue]

Votecount 5-3 (Final)

With 9 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

meganeta_thegreat (5): Just Sheep Us, The Fox and the Hound, CarbonFiber, penguin_alien, Breakfast With Stalin
CarbonFiber (1): Magenta_thegreat
The Fox and the Hound (1): Red Gyarados

Not Voting (2): AngryPidgeon, Titan

(expired on 2014-06-12 20:31:43)

[Yulia Jue]

magenta_thegreat, who was Ragou, Town Corrupt Governor

Oneshot-Governor Pedophile roleblock-rolestopper

, was lynched day 5.

Night 5 deadline 48 hours or sooner yada yada, you know the drill.

(expired on 2014-06-09 11:35:01)

[Yulia Jue]

Breakfast With Stalin, who was Mao, Town Amnesiac Observer, was killed night 5.

[Yulia Jue]

Votecount 6-1

With 7 players alive, it will take 4 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Not voting (7): Just Sheep Us, The Fox and the Hound, CarbonFiber, penguin_alien, Red Gyarados, AngryPidgeon, Titan


Deadline is: (expired on 2014-06-17 16:04:59)

[The Fox and the Hound]

CF, I investigated you last night successfully. Could you explain the text on your miller ability a little more carefully?

[CarbonFiber]

I thought I did. Our role name is town replica.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Ah, actually, never mind. Your claim lines up, I got the result "Replica" which is what you claimed as a name.

Is it weird that I think the neighborizer ability not being in any way even hinted at to me almost clears CF? Like, I don't see why he would be listed as a "Mafia Replica" in his role PM with nothing else, that's just sort of stupid.

P-edit: yep.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Like the only way I would think that would work if he was somehow a vanilla goon and the neighborizing ability was somehow factional? Which seems kinda unlikely?

[AngryPidgeon]

There are < 9 people left in the game so my role no longer does anything.

I did get Stalin's amensiac result though. Foxhound investigated something last night, I can confirm that.

[Just Sheep Us]

Forgot about the <9 restriction :/

[AngryPidgeon]

JSU I want to know who you think is scum. With really convincing hutzpah behind it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Because I really think its just you.

I'm town. Fox's result makes CF look somewhat town actually? The fact that Fox is claiming that result also makes them look kind of town. I guess they could be scum with CF. Fuck actually thats possible.

Tammy...I don't know. Im not going to writer her off anymore, the multiple days of self-voting and apparently lakc of desire to lynch PA who she thinks is bamboozling her is not going to fly any more. Feeling somewhat similarly about PA, who has been kind of V/LA and not doing much.

RG/Fox....ugh.

JSU..why do you guys look like scum?

[Just Sheep Us]

We look like scum to you because you always think I'm scum?

I was starting to get paranoid that Beli was a godfather, but scum cleared that one up for me. At this point, it's a question of whether:

1) The veracity of my assumption that you aren't a godfather to me/Desp.

2) The veracity of my assumption on CF (FoxHound's investigative results point towards CF being town, I think, based on the vanilla goon PM in the first post).

3) Whether RG/Foxhound is scum theatre.

4) Whether CF's read on Tammy is right.

I think penguin's pretty much just scum at this point. I never liked Clyton's posting much, and penguin's done stuff that's only made me more suspect (in particular, how she interacted with Tammy about my alignment looked a fair bit like white-knighting). Additionally, for penguin to be town, if you're not a godfather of some sort, FoxHound/RG would have to have decided to scum theatre from a relatively strong position (magenta lynch was going to happen, and penguin's in a much weaker position than Tammy). It wouldn't make sense to make that sort of move there.

I'm leaning towards it being RG/Foxhound scum theatre over Tammy being scum at this point. I've thought Tammy was town at more points in the game than FoxHound/RG. RG's been pretty scummy for a while, and him pushing a bus on Nacho for a long time seems like the sort of play Nacho would set up. Also, there's the fact that the day 1 positionality put Tammy in the center of just about everything with FoxHound buddying it hardcore in a way that looks suspect.

[AngryPidgeon]

2) The veracity of my assumption on CF (FoxHound's investigative results point towards CF being town, I think, based on the vanilla goon PM in the first post).

What was that one role that Cf kept referring to in the other game? Something about a Godfather that can look like whatever it wants?

Is it possible there is a role in the game that could change what its rolename would appear as? CF seemed awfully adamant about something along those lines existing.

[AngryPidgeon]

FoxHound/RG would have to have decided to scum theatre from a relatively strong position (

magenta lynch was going to happen

, and penguin's in a much weaker position than Tammy). It wouldn't make sense to make that sort of move there.

Yes except the underlined is exactly what would make it a viable option? Magenta still got lynched, no one showed any interest in voting either of them.

[Just Sheep Us]

2) The veracity of my assumption on CF (FoxHound's investigative results point towards CF being town, I think, based on the vanilla goon PM in the first post).

What was that one role that Cf kept referring to in the other game? Something about a Godfather that can look like whatever it wants?

Is it possible there is a role in the game that could change what its rolename would appear as? CF seemed awfully adamant about something along those lines existing.

Empking had a rolecop godfather in U-pick, but that was b/c that setup was built around town having 3 rolecops.

I think this setup would have a straight-up godfather over that. It would also seem weird that he'd choose something like a miller to fake over, like, anything else.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well most roles you would fake are going to end up being accountable to where they are tracked and what info they can produce.

[Just Sheep Us]

FoxHound/RG would have to have decided to scum theatre from a relatively strong position (

magenta lynch was going to happen

, and penguin's in a much weaker position than Tammy). It wouldn't make sense to make that sort of move there.

Yes except the underlined is exactly what would make it a viable option? Magenta still got lynched, no one showed any interest in voting either of them.

But it put them under more pressure today. Scum think about the game more long-term; taking a play with an immediate short-term game at a long-term cost at a juncture when a win would almost be guaranteed would be really bizarre decision making.

[Just Sheep Us]

Well most roles you would fake are going to end up being accountable to where they are tracked and what info they can produce.

Who faked 1-shot vig, claiming to have been blocked.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well which do you believe lol - you said you think they ARE just scum at this point. If they are scum together then obviously the point is that one of them may go down and the other gets townread for the whole situation.