Tales of You (Dead zone)

[mastin2]

What should have happened this game.
Is an AP or Fox/Hound lynch.
Failing that? Okay, Mara/Orc's power getting used.
Then, an AP or Fox/Hound vig. (Or Mara/Orc.)
With zMuffinman getting nightilled. (Or better yet? Me having not needed to claim...and getting shot!)
Then, a lynch of the other...or of Nacho, depending on if he revealed his scummy-ass hand, yet.
And Tammy getting nightkilled.
Then, sure, Mara/Orc mislynch if not vigged. (If vigged, lynch the AP or Fox/Hound player who wasn't.)
Work out the pieces using the PRs from there.

THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE FUCKING HAPPENED.
That is what I spent the majority of my god-damned time working towards.
So did zMuffinman.
So did basically everyone who is now dead.

It should set off red fucking flags that players who have been obvtown and many possessing powerful fucking PRs have lived...whereas players who have been lesser-town have been dieing in droves.
Like pie.

IF NO OTHER FUCKING PLAYER, PIE STOOD A CHANCE AT LYNCHING NACHO'S SCUMMY ASS.

[mastin2]

(Oh, and general info.
Not to mention.
A lick.
A single morsel.
OF COMMON FUCKING SENSE.)

[mastin2]

Seriously.
All that would have been needed.
To stop most of those fucking mislynches.
Is exactly that fucking thing.

A small piece, a fraction. Of common. fucking. sense.

[mastin2]

MastinSSK?
Well, I went into this lengthily, so pick one; there's literally a fucking metric ton worth of reasons using common sense why I was a fucking bad lynch.

Katsuki?
Why the FUCK would Kats fakeclaim that way under absolutely zero pressure?

Rancid? Also a shitton of reasons, but AMONG MANY FUCKING OTHERS,
Why the fucking hell would they take back the miller claim as scum, when there were plenty of people saying two millers was totally possible?

RG?
SAME FUCKING THING AS KATSUKI. (No. Seriously. Same. Exact. Fucking. Thing.) Why the blazes would they do that?

NOT.
THAT.
FUCKING.
HARD.

[mastin2]

And it runs the other way, too.
On the scumbags.

I listed all the numerous reasons why Nacho wouldn't do what he did as town and would as scum.
The same but fucking more so for AP this whole fucking time.
I've pointed out a lot of fucking problems with Fox/Hound.

And common fucking sense about how to handle the cops.

It's not that fucking hard.

[fferyllt]

I don't think anybody is seeing through the mist. BRO maybe. finally, but probably not enough.

I think that's been this scum team's real strength, is killing players as they showed signs of emerging from the mist.

So sad I had to leave the game, though I don't know if I would have maintained resolve to do what I wanted to do on day 4.

[mastin2]

AND YOU CAN BET YOUR FUCKING ASS.

THAT AP HAS ALREADY MADE A COMMENT.

ABOUT WANTING TO SEE MY FUCKING RANTING.

[mastin2]

SO ENJOY YOUR FUCKING SHOW, AP.
'CAUSE THIS IS ME DOING MY FUCKING RANTING.

[fferyllt]

lol ok I'll check back in a couple days.

[mastin2]

I don't think anybody is seeing through the mist.

My fucking thoughts exactly.

BRO maybe. finally, but probably not enough.

He's the closest fucking thing we have, but he failed.

Read this.

I'm not getting where that last question is coming from, and that makes me think we're talking past each other.

There are 3 possible gamestates.

Fox/RG
Town/Scum
Scum/Town
Scum/Scum

What you've just posted is a pretty compelling argument against the second case, but what about the first and third? Does the information provided say that either of those aren't possible? I'm arguing that the Scum/Scum instance is most likely.

Yeah, you were right. It was about fucking time for him to finally see through the bullshit.

And I have to give him credit.
This is me taking a bow that at least he fucking tried even if he got it wrong.
But he fucking got it wrong.

[mastin2]

(Basically, I have mad props to BROseidon that he actually IS trying.
It's more than I can say for fucking Anakin Skywalker.
But he's still going to let democracy die with thunderous applause.)

[mastin2]

(And, yes, F-16.
You have been trying for the whole fucking game.
So the sudden barrage towards you might not seem justified...

...EXCEPT THAT IT'S THE VERY FACT YOU'VE TRIED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE GAME AND ARE NOW NOT TRYING THAT MAKES IT FUCKING HURT THAT MUCH.)

[mastin2]

BECAUSE I TRUSTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
You came so close.
SO FUCKING CLOSE.

AND ARE NOW.
GOING AGAINST.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAD BUILT.

You're betraying the very you that you've worked for the whole game.
YOU'RE THROWING AWAY YOUR COMPETENCY.

[Cabd]

Now taking bets on who gets the game losing rope.

[mastin2]

I think that's been this scum team's real strength, is killing players as they showed signs of emerging from the mist.

For the record...this is one of the things on my ITYS list.

Because I really did fucking tell you all so when I said exactly this fucking thing.

It's NOT ONLY for the nightkills. (Rancid and Mac at the time.)
But ALSO for the lynch.
Who was it who got me mislynched, really? It wasn't F-16. It wasn't pie. It wasn't JSU. They contributed, oh yes. But the person who got me mislynched was Nacho.
Who was it that actually presented a viable threat to scum D3? It was Katsuki.
(Then, PV died--and he ALWAYS gets stronger later into the game, and had done so handedly!)

I laid this out quite explicitly, explaining EXACTLY why Nacho as scum would come out of his shell to lynch me. Because I

was

close. I had AP; I had Fox/Hound at the time (even if I later lost them), my townread on Nacho was failing (because it was based on bork), and PA was at the bottom of my townreads list. (No, seriously, I can point to my iso and show the beginnings of these things.)

And that trend has been true throughout the whole fucking game.

[mastin2]

Now taking bets on who gets the game losing rope.

I would fucking laugh if the player most trying to figure things out (JSU) got lynched.

It'd also serve as a nice, nifty, part of the package for AP's total fucking revenge.

But I can settle on RG.
Who instead of being the player most trying to figure things out has been the player that currently HAS the most things figured out.

Y'know. A consistent trend with past town mislynches.

[mastin2]

(So, totally. RG.
Because I'm going to fucking cry.
Laugh after that to cope.
But fucking cry.)

[fferyllt]

I was supposed to be dead on night 3. Which was the right time for me to die in scum strategy because I would have gone after AP with the Katsuki flip.

My two bet the farm town reads were JSU and Orci. I think the JSU read, though right, really screwed me up in terms of trusting their reads of AP over mine. I figured if anyone could read AP it was Bro.

[mastin2]

It's pretty fucking sad, too.

If the lylo was ACTUALLY going to be a fucking lylo, I'd have time to write a full, true, proper Ballad of Tales, which would have briefly chronicled the difference between this post and what actually happened.

But the town is so fucking determined to lose.
SO fucking determined.

That I won't have the time to type up the verses.
(It'd only take me about a solid hour of work.)

[mastin2]

I figured if anyone could read AP it was Bro.

THE PERSON YOU (general 'you', not directed at ffery) FUCKING TRUST TO LYNCH AP IS MASTIN.

When I say I haven't locked down a read, yet, sure, yeah, don't.
But when I fucking lock down a read.
Fuck yes you do.

Waffling-Mastin can get it wrong and will acknowledge getting it wrong.
Conviction-Mastin might get other players wrong, but NOT AP. (Unless said conviction is on a player who is not AP. i.e., I tunnel on town and AP is scum and I townread AP not because I'm townreading AP but because I'm scumreading the town player that much.)

[fferyllt]

I didn't trust your reads, Mastin. Even after you died. You've been unsure about me before, but you spent most of day 2 flat-out scumreading me and even after I knew you were town, I didn't trust your other reads when you read me so wrong.

[Ms Marangal]

I am set on cf/fh/??? The last slot is probably tammydra or jsu, leaning more towards the latter. It was pretty funny how everyone used "paranoia" as a reason because I've long stopped showing it in thread, but that doesn't mean I don't have it

AP is mod-confirmed scum, Mara.

I had AP scum all game, for the most part but I dont find APscum with bro/desps role at all compatible

[Ms Marangal]

Or, didnt, and I was very mad at cabd, but when he explained the replica vs original thing, I was felt pretty dimb for overseeing that possibility

[mastin2]

^How every town player feels this game.

[mastin2]

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^How every town player feels this game.