Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

Did I say anything about your posts, nope, not a thing. I cast a direction for a vote, picked a thread to pull on and here we are, reverberation.

[MafiaSSK]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

Did I say anything about your posts, nope, not a thing. I cast a direction for a vote, picked a thread to pull on and here we are, reverberation.

But a vote means you think I'm scum and the only reason you could think that would be because of my posts unless reasons, so it's logical to assume that there was some post of mine that bothered you. But now I know that it was just a shitty vote. Unless you want to prove me different.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

4 days to go-need consolidation and off on xay now...

vote Aegor

So what's your problem with the Xay wagon?

After Talah's last post I wouldn't mind lynching them.

gauging the response, the quest, the questioning, looking one way then the other, the queasy was ill-fit, the reexamination found nothing of disrepute but that which may be true to the nature of who they are...
thus time to pluck other threads of interest to see what may become

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

Did I say anything about your posts, nope, not a thing. I cast a direction for a vote, picked a thread to pull on and here we are, reverberation.

But a vote means you think I'm scum and the only reason you could think that would be because of my posts unless reasons, so it's logical to assume that there was some post of mine that bothered you. But now I know that it was just a shitty vote. Unless you want to prove me different.

being an alien to these parts, the value and definition of what is stated and voted is varied. To one a vote is precious, to another a vote but a tool. All are suspect and some gain favor, others ill, the rub is which gains ring true and which are false. All in the sorting. All in time. One answer, then another, and soon we hold true or false. It is the use of the many tools that lead to the sorting, not just the one.

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Neutral

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (0):
ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (2): RachMarie, Talah
Spring Starflower (1): ZZZX
Zdenek (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (1): Saki
The Most Curious Thing (1): PeregrineV
Nachomamma8 (0):
TSO (2): Xayzeck, Nachomamma8
MafiaSSK (0):
Thor665 (0):
Talah (1): Zdenek
Xayzeck (6): The Most Curious Thing, TiphaineDeath, TSO, Doublade, Thor665, Aegor
The Necromancers (0):
Fear (0):
Jordan_Downey (2): Spring Starflower, Shiny Hydreigon
Aegor (5): Dry-fit, Jordan_Downey, The Necromancers, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, MafiaSSK
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (1): Fear

It is day 1. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, June 15 at 2:00am EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-06-15 02:00:00).

Fear is V/LA until Wednesday, June 11.

[T S O]

Why are you doing that? Why are you moving your vote from useless to even more useless? What do you think it achieves? Do you think that any far corner of the universe, you will raise a wagon by bringing someone to L-11 with no fucking reasoning?

We have 4 days, Rach. It's not about pressure anymore. I'd love you to vote Xayzeck, yes, but you know what I'd love more? A lynch on day 1. And your vote hinders that.

See, this post bothers me. So insanely many questions. Four days left and he's this anxious. Come on, man, if you want a wagon to succeed you shouldn't be badgering town into joining the wagon. Make a good enough case and people will be able to see it and be convinced to join you.

I made a case.

Regardless of how good or bad it is, a lot of people simply didn't read it. So I have to act like a schoolteacher and badger them into doing the most basic of tasks.

Pere wagon doesn't really appeal.

[T S O]

Jesus, SSK, I could make a better case on Aegor than that. Heedless voting is anti-town, not scum, and that post doesn't look at all like coaching...

I'm gonna respond to Nacho because I forgot about him.

[talah]

Omfg the waffle.

And talah, since when are the things you just described thor doing good things?

Yeah they're not good things. You apparently don't have a sarcasm filter, fortunately I happen to know Thor does.

4 days to go-need consolidation and off on xay now...

vote Aegor

Hello opportunistic vote. I've been rolling your play over in my mind, and I don't like it. Apparently you would like to philosophise instead of actually trying to find scum. And talk about how you're finding scum.

^more votes here would actually be appreciated. Apparently everyone just wants to sheep aggression and walls, and lurk.

VOTE: Knife

Sorry Rach, I have you slightly leaning town now I think because -being Rach gut- but I have a lot of trouble reading Pere in any case and I doubt he's being lynched without something at least decent on him.

really? peregrine's the best vote there is?

Why the fuck not? If I contrast it with you voting your own maybe-townread it seems pretty decent on reflection, doesn't it?

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

You get "hated on" for lurkfucking the entire day through only to pop in with an incomprehensible stream of wordiness when you get more than one poke-vote and the game-state is ZOMG WEE NEEDS WAGONS.

And I played with you in Hip-hop under an alt as scum where we mislynched you.
And I replaced out of 169 as scum on your team and ended up following along.
Oh and cheese facts, don't forget those.

Can you finally answer what your rationale was in countervoting votes on mastin in RVS? Because yeah, you've been lurking that long, and I asked you, and you never answered.

[talah]

4 days to go-need consolidation and off on xay now...

vote Aegor

So what's your problem with the Xay wagon?

After Talah's last post I wouldn't mind lynching them.

1/ What's your case *for* the Xay wagon?

2/ Good for you, champ, why don't you flop down a vote? What exactly was your problem with my last post and what were you previously thinking about me anyway?

[Thor665]

Also like how Thor is going to not play the game but willing to put his vote wherever.

Yeah, it's really strange how Thor is "not playing the game" but is willing to put his vote out (and I'll also ignore that he has stated town reads) - clearly he is not playing the game!

What are you thinking you're accomplishing here?

Thor I do not have a scum read on xay.

I do on Pere and TMCT

Though the one on Pere is stronger.

Since I have been in the game you have explained neither vote nor attempted to get support for either wagon.
Why are you intentionally sidelining yourself?

I don't care if you 'don't have a scum read' on him, I'm asking if you have a town read on him. There are too many players in this game to just avoid lynching people you don't scum read.

I'm town reading TSO.

serious? how and why?

No, I decided to randomly make that comment up and say it so that I could engage in debate about it.
I have it because I read him.
The reasoning is that, the only questionable thing he has done is the violent buddy of me. Conversely he has been very clear in being willing to attach himself to his reads and push them. He is making a lot of waves and noise without fear in a game with a large pile of players. If he is scum, he'll be gone sooner rather than later. I take the open opinions as a town tell though - I think he wants to solve the game.

If anyone has a town role PM and is thinking 'that's a really easy and silly reason to town read someone' then please note that unless your name is MafiaSSK I am not town reading you...and just think about that.

[Thor665]

@Rach - and if you do townread Xayzeck, what about Jordan? You should vote Jordan.

[The Necromancers]

holy crap mastin was right....

talah really is scum

[Xayzeck]

I think he wants to solve the game.

I honestly don't get that kind of impression

He just comes in and yells for a random tunnel, when we haven't even interacted.

Hell, I don't even feel like he's been pushing me. It just feels like he's come in, SEEN me do stuff, called me scum for it, and told other people that they should vote me.

I can't even remember 1 moment in this whole game where he has actually talked TO me, and not ABOUT me.

That's not sorting people out.

[The Necromancers]

Why the fuck not? If I contrast it with you voting your own maybe-townread it seems pretty decent on reflection, doesn't it?

not really

you really think a flashwagon on peregrine or SKOT's going to happen and you really think those are the best lynches? why?

Hello opportunistic vote. I've been rolling your play over in my mind, and I don't like it. Apparently you would like to philosophise instead of actually trying to find scum. And talk about how you're finding scum.

'opportunistic'? that doesn't really fit considering the situation....

[talah]

Why the fuck not? If I contrast it with you voting your own maybe-townread it seems pretty decent on reflection, doesn't it?

not really

you really think a flashwagon on peregrine or SKOT's going to happen and you really think those are the best lynches? why?

Firstly, lol. Last I checked HI YOU DON'T VOTE YOUR TOWNREADS EXCEPT AT DEADLINE.

Secondly, sure. What makes Rach less likely to be wrong about Pere than anyone else?
Knife I think is scummy in his own right and might have a better chance of taking off - didn't I just say this?

Hello opportunistic vote. I've been rolling your play over in my mind, and I don't like it. Apparently you would like to philosophise instead of actually trying to find scum. And talk about how you're finding scum.

'opportunistic'? that doesn't really fit considering the situation....

Oh no? Jumping from one popular wagon to another that's gaining steam in thread? He did the same with your hydra and me earlier.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Why the fuck not? If I contrast it with you voting your own maybe-townread it seems pretty decent on reflection, doesn't it?

not really

you really think a flashwagon on peregrine or SKOT's going to happen and you really think those are the best lynches? why?

Hello opportunistic vote. I've been rolling your play over in my mind, and I don't like it. Apparently you would like to philosophise instead of actually trying to find scum. And talk about how you're finding scum.

'opportunistic'? that doesn't really fit considering the situation....

really, really, you are going to go down that misrep card? Seriously? I engaged in a whole reaction gauging exchange with necro, pounded on them pretty hard. Backed off, looked your way, backed away from the talah/necro conundrum and looked at other directions. Flipped back and forth on Xay and decided that while I had a reaction to a post, it did not sit the same upon reread. So then I went to Aegor as I like to see claims happen and I do not like pussy footing around till the last minute. I just do not. My game philosophy and the way I have played for over a decade and in 100s of games is not going to change simply because of being introduced to a foreign culture and trying to play in said culture. Here is the thing also, since I have no inside knowledge, there is nothing I can do but do what I do in interacting in the game to try and find scum. My tools are my tools, if I try and use someone elses tools I will error.

[Marquis]

xayzeck is scum. aegor is townier. bye

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

xayzeck is scum. aegor is townier. bye

you hydra slipped...

[RachMarie]

I guess I was not clear enough Thor

I have Xay in my town pile. I will not vote for him unless there is no choice because of deadline.

I have a strong scum read on Pere. Part of it is based on experience with him in several games, part of it is associative tells and wagons.

[T S O]

Ah yes, the associative tells pre-flip, those are always deadly.

[T S O]

Xayzeck, maybe the reason you feel so left out is that I have no interest in convincing you you're scum.

[Xayzeck]

Xayzeck, maybe the reason you feel so left out is that I have no interest in convincing you you're scum.

rather, you have no interest in sorting me out through actually talking to me

[RachMarie]

uggh strike that part of associative tells wrong game

Sorry I need more coffee

[T S O]

Xayzeck, maybe the reason you feel so left out is that I have no interest in convincing you you're scum.

rather, you have no interest in sorting me out through actually talking to me

But I -have- sorted you out. That's the thing. I don't need to talk to you because my scumread doesn't come from specific motivation you have when posting which I need to figure out. You're just scummy, to be blunt.

[T S O]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

Did I say anything about your posts, nope, not a thing. I cast a direction for a vote, picked a thread to pull on and here we are, reverberation.

But a vote means you think I'm scum and the only reason you could think that would be because of my posts unless reasons, so it's logical to assume that there was some post of mine that bothered you. But now I know that it was just a shitty vote. Unless you want to prove me different.

being an alien to these parts, the value and definition of what is stated and voted is varied. To one a vote is precious, to another a vote but a tool. All are suspect and some gain favor, others ill, the rub is which gains ring true and which are false. All in the sorting. All in time. One answer, then another, and soon we hold true or false. It is the use of the many tools that lead to the sorting, not just the one.

I'd be up for a policy lynch here also.