Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Neutral

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (0):
ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (1): RachMarie
Spring Starflower (1): ZZZX
Zdenek (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (1): Talah
Dry-fit (1): Saki
The Most Curious Thing (1): PeregrineV
Nachomamma8 (0):
TSO (2): Xayzeck, Nachomamma8
MafiaSSK (0):
Thor665 (0):
Talah (1): Zdenek
Xayzeck (6): The Most Curious Thing, TiphaineDeath, TSO, Doublade, Thor665, Aegor
The Necromancers (0):
Fear (0):
Jordan_Downey (2): Spring Starflower, Shiny Hydreigon
Aegor (5): Dry-fit, Jordan_Downey, The Necromancers, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, MafiaSSK
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (1): Fear

It is day 1. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, June 15 at 2:00am EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-06-15 02:00:00).

Fear is V/LA until Wednesday, June 11.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

Did I say anything about your posts, nope, not a thing. I cast a direction for a vote, picked a thread to pull on and here we are, reverberation.

But a vote means you think I'm scum and the only reason you could think that would be because of my posts unless reasons, so it's logical to assume that there was some post of mine that bothered you. But now I know that it was just a shitty vote. Unless you want to prove me different.

being an alien to these parts, the value and definition of what is stated and voted is varied. To one a vote is precious, to another a vote but a tool. All are suspect and some gain favor, others ill, the rub is which gains ring true and which are false. All in the sorting. All in time. One answer, then another, and soon we hold true or false. It is the use of the many tools that lead to the sorting, not just the one.

I'd be up for a policy lynch here also.

lol, and what policy would I be violating oh great and marvelous TSO.... just that I don't play like I played forever at Mafiascum, cause I didn't not and that would be impossible. Too funny.

[T S O]

How the fuck would repeatedly spouting mindless philosophy instead of answering questions be related to your time spent as Mafiascum?

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

How the fuck would repeatedly spouting mindless philosophy instead of answering questions be related to your time spent as Mafiascum?

please show me where I am repeating mindless philosophy? TIA

[PeregrineV]

Anti you are the only person continuing to bring up the hydra comment. Maybe on sign up he didn't realize how many? He also didn't try pressing the issue, didn't try to press a vote. Yet you keep bringing it up ... Why?

well, he's pressing the issue by continuing the vote. ...and the only alternative explanation is that he's voting us because of something personal (which is even harder to stomach).

that's where i'm at now, so why are you all acting so surprised that i'm pissed off?

But he is at least giving his reason, as crappy as you believe it to be. I'll need to check, but did the other 8 votes bother you?

[Aegor]

VOTE: Dry-Fit

[PeregrineV]

wait... there ate 8/12 votes on Necro already?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!??!

i did not notice that!!

yes, interesting is it not, of particular the 3 that hopped on once I started poking at Necro...well on is aegor, and then there are the other 2...
too interesting to make a change in course at this point...

For my reference.

527

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (2): ZZZX, Dry-fit
ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (0):
Zdenek (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (1): Saki
The Most Curious Thing (1): PeregrineV
Nachomamma8 (0):
TSO (0):
MafiaSSK (0):
Natirasha (1): MafiaSSK
Talah (1): TheNecromancers
Xayzeck (3): The Most Curious Thing, Zdenek, TiphaineDeath
TheNecromancers (8): Jordan_Downey, Talah, Xayzeck, Natirasha, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Aegor, Doublade, Fear
Fear (1): Spring Starflower
Jordan_Downey (1): Shiny Hydreigon
Aegor (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (3): Nachomamma8, TSO, RachMarie

It is day 1. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, June 15 at 2:00am EST. Countdown: 3 days, 9 hours, 54 minutes.

[T S O]

being an alien to these parts, the value and definition of what is stated and voted is varied. To one a vote is precious, to another a vote but a tool. All are suspect and some gain favor, others ill, the rub is which gains ring true and which are false. All in the sorting. All in time. One answer, then another, and soon we hold true or false. It is the use of the many tools that lead to the sorting, not just the one.

[PeregrineV]

Jordan_Downey (Jingle/Aphix)


never heard of these people, damn no meta

Scum meta for Jordan, in which game I also drew after hardclaiming scum.

i'll refer to these later in the game when jordan has more posts in this game

[PeregrineV]

My catch-up will be stream of consciousness yay

#36 gives me my first scumread of the game in Xayzeck - I've seen him as both alignments and the OMGUS part doesn't fit with my memories of town-Xay.
#46 makes me wonder why mastin tells TMCT that he's voting him because he thinks he's scum, and then reminds TMCT he's not sold on town-him ...yes, mastin, we'd assume that.
#63 is more weirdness from Xayzeck - getting a feeling I'm onto something here.
#68 reminds me of an entrance I've used as scum trying to appear as emphatic town.
#74 is better, though, but they're a decent hydra, so I'm not sure if I want to clear them or ugh idek.
#86 makes me think mastin's a brazen motherfucker as either alignment, but to do that as scum? Not sure I see it.

Yeah, fuck it, mastin can be town, he's so damn likeable I feel it hard to call him scum, plus he's town.

#101 Xayzeck is officially scumfuck #1.
#112 SHEEP SCUMZECK SHEEP

Vote: Xayzeck

This needs to be done now, don't care what happens down the line.

#118 hey brah it's you who's scum
#147 YES NATI VOTE XAYZECK <333 but we may have to talk 'bout mastin
#169 Xayzeck suspicion is good, Dry-fit.
#170 Zdenek looking good here as well although I disagree with him, his manner is town
#179 is town as fuck plus Xayzeck vote - I declare Zdenek INNOCENT CHILD DAY 1.
#180 it's Saki, friend, what could you expect?
#184 no SSK, bad SSK.

more Xayzeck being scum, especially #199

#203 hang this fucker now
#206 YES ANTI
#212 what history?
#238 good point, Doublade!

That's up to page 10 - will further catch up later.

Stopping here for now.

[Thor665]

I think he wants to solve the game.

I honestly don't get that kind of impression

He just comes in and yells for a random tunnel, when we haven't even interacted.

Hell, I don't even feel like he's been pushing me. It just feels like he's come in, SEEN me do stuff, called me scum for it, and told other people that they should vote me.

I can't even remember 1 moment in this whole game where he has actually talked TO me, and not ABOUT me.

That's not sorting people out.

I get that impression - he's talking to other people, whether or not he talks to everyone (and I doubt anyone has) doesn't really matter to me. It also doesn't matter to me that he's pressing you as scum and trying to sort others - that feels fine to me.

What's up with your vote? You really think that's going anywhere? What sort of sorting are you doing as regards it?

I guess I was not clear enough Thor

I have Xay in my town pile. I will not vote for him unless there is no choice because of deadline.

I have a strong scum read on Pere. Part of it is based on experience with him in several games, part of it is associative tells and wagons.

If he's in your town pile, and in a game this large, you shouldn't vote him at all. Why is he town?
Also what's your read on Aegor?

Rach is scummy to me now.

[T S O]

uggh strike that part of associative tells wrong game

Sorry I need more coffee

This is the reason that the Pere wagon is trash.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

being an alien to these parts, the value and definition of what is stated and voted is varied. To one a vote is precious, to another a vote but a tool. All are suspect and some gain favor, others ill, the rub is which gains ring true and which are false. All in the sorting. All in time. One answer, then another, and soon we hold true or false. It is the use of the many tools that lead to the sorting, not just the one.

please define for me what philosophy this is espousing? TIA... and please inform me how many posts are like this that you would define me as "all you posts is mindless philosophy and are not scum hunting, TIA.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

oh and please show where there is any repeat to whatever philosophy you believe is contained it said content... looking forward to it, much appreciated.

[Xayzeck]

What's up with your vote? You really think that's going anywhere? What sort of sorting are you doing as regards it?

What's wrong with it? Sheep me and it'll take off.

I skim his case, it felt town. I read it, it felt scum, because the reasons were utter shit. I responded to start interacting so I could try and find out if he was town or scum. Votes him in the process so that he wouldn't ignore me maybe.

And I get absolutely nothing.

He's either scum pushing a mislynch haaaaaard as fuck, or town with an ego bigger than Jupiter

I lean the former

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Mastiiiiiiinnnn

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hey, Thor, if you want to put someone at L-1, why don't you vote Jordan instead of talking about voting Jordan

I am not going to vote aegor at any time.

[Aegor]

Dry-fit is a better wagon than Xay

Aegor is a perfect compromise lynch. Does anyone here have a townread on him?

This is such crap given that he has done exactly nothing all game.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Necro wagon is dumb

[Dry-fit]

4 days to go-need consolidation and off on xay now...

vote Aegor

So what's your problem with the Xay wagon?

After Talah's last post I wouldn't mind lynching them.

1/ What's your case *for* the Xay wagon?

I don't have one. I wanted to know why SKOT is voting Aegor over Xay when he expressed suspicion of Xay the last time he'd mentioned him and hadn't really said anything about Aegor.

2/ Good for you, champ, why don't you flop down a vote? What exactly was your problem with my last post and what were you previously thinking about me anyway?

My problem with your Pere vote is that it's unexplained, on a not very good target, and does nothing in this gamestate. What I was thinking about you before was that your posting in general was scummy but that your softclaim didn't look scum motivated or a likely scum move at all. In addition I thought you didn't respond well to mastin's meta case on you but I just kind of skimmed that. I prefer my vote on Aegor.

Dry-fit is a better wagon than Xay

Aegor is a perfect compromise lynch. Does anyone here have a townread on him?

This is such crap given that he has done exactly nothing all game.

I don't know what your point is here.

[Aegor]

I don't know what your point is here.

That you are full of BS. You basically posted nothing until 742, your sixth post. In that post, you straight-up OMGUS me. You have not changed your vote since then and have contributed nothing. You then suggest I am a good "compromise lynch," which would be far more compelling had you actually done anything all game. As your ISO stands, you have done jack shit and are now suggesting -- without any reason, of course -- that I am somehow a good "compromise lynch" even though that question had not been raised at all.

That is hella scummy.

[Jordan_Downey]

Necro wagon is dumb

Was you mean?

[Zdenek]

Prod-dodge. My apologies.

[talah]

I don't have one. I wanted to know why SKOT is voting Aegor over Xay when he expressed suspicion of Xay the last time he'd mentioned him and hadn't really said anything about Aegor.

That seems really weak to me, since you're voting Xay yourself. The problem I have with it, is that we can end up groupthinking into this 'only existing wagons are useful' type of mindset, which is what seems to be happening. This gives aggressive (often wrong) and scum-championing-agressive, the upper hand.

It would be very fudding nice if we just voted people we thought might be scum, rather than sheeping - whoever you think is town that you're sheeping. Then consolidate/negotiate as needed.

My problem with your Pere vote is that it's unexplained, on a not very good target, and does nothing in this gamestate. What I was thinking about you before was that your posting in general was scummy but that your softclaim didn't look scum motivated or a likely scum move at all. In addition I thought you didn't respond well to mastin's meta case on you but I just kind of skimmed that. I prefer my vote on Aegor.

I have no reason currently to be townreading Pere. I don't like *any* of the wagons that have occurred today (with the exception of Necro, and apparently hurrdur it's stupid according to a few folks - so I'll leave it partially to avoid a shitfight and partially because I acknowledge I could be wrong on - anything - even though I don't think so here).

When I don't like the existing wagons I'll vote somewhere else. Voting *with* Rach, partially helps with my read on her (which, if you've played with Rach before, is always going to be about intuitives), and partially challenges TSO's assertion that Rach's vote on Pere is not worthwhile.

Partial claim - meh. Either I'm killed or town can get some information from it, or I live. I'll have to be consistent in any case.

I skimmed mastin's case myself after the initial few posts whenever I saw sentences which started with "as town, talah does...".
It's wrong and there is simply no way to refute probably 60+ posts directly misrepresenting me. How would you go about it if it were aimed at you? Rhetorical unless you have an obvious answer I'm missing.

[ZZZX]

I will post later after I feel even better and I catch up. really sorry