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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:58 am

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In post 1623, Jordan_Downey wrote:Information, Titus. We want as much information as possible.

Again, no one change their polarity tonight. Mastinhero, I plan to target you with my ability in order to confirm it, so you should try to change.
I don't think anyone doubts what you are Jordan, just rather if you are town or scum.

What good does having polarity information for most of us, especially VTs? By keeping it secret, we can bust people who lie about it to try and setup mislynches.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:13 am

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When are we gonna bust Dry-fit for anything? The polarity claim, as I mentioned earlier, is part of my plan and should take place immediately before the lynch, every day. There is a point behind confirming my role, though you're right in that it doesn't confirm my alignment.

@TSO- I don't think 12 hours is gonna be enough for the Aegor wagon to get to lynch.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:19 am

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Dry-fit is at L-1, we don't have to worry about getting a lynch. I'll be on anyway.

If you think Aegor is more likely scum than Dry-fit (hint: yes) then vote him. The wagon will easily get its numbers if people will simply be decisive.
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:20 am

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Plus, Dry-fit's role PM is similar as fuck to my own.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:26 am

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I'd be willing to vote Aegor. I have been all day. I'm not willing to unvote to do so. You see my conundrum.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:28 am

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In post 1626, Jordan_Downey wrote:When are we gonna bust Dry-fit for anything? The polarity claim, as I mentioned earlier, is part of my plan and should take place immediately before the lynch, every day. There is a point behind confirming my role, though you're right in that it doesn't confirm my alignment.

@TSO- I don't think 12 hours is gonna be enough for the Aegor wagon to get to lynch.
As much as I'd like scumMancers to be pinned to a polarity for checks, your objective doesn't do that at all. It basically, if I'm wrong, puts a neon sign on his back saying "scum kill Necro". That wouldn't even confirm your role, which I'm pretty sure no one doubts. So yeah, your plan ain't happening.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:31 am

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In post 1629, Jordan_Downey wrote:I'd be willing to vote Aegor. I have been all day. I'm not willing to unvote to do so. You see my conundrum.
No, I don't. Dry-fit is really fucking town from play and from claim. Aegor is not. The reason Aegor may not be lynched is that we'll have about 5 responses just like yours where no-one has the courage to vote Aegor and lead. You can change this, now. If you do it, I can guarantee others will follow. Be brave. Vote Aegor.

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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:31 am

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I'm not telling them to claim what polarity they are. We do not know what polarity they are, unless you've got some special insight you'd like to share with the class. I just want them to attempt to change polarities from what they are now to the other option, and confirm tomorrow whether said change actually happened. Hint: it won't. I can't tell if you're being dense or just scum afraid of my plan.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:35 am

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Fine, TSO. VOTE: Aegor My vote will be going back to Dry-fit at about 6 here because I can't guarantee I'll be on then.
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:37 am

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Thank you!
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:43 am

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To anyone doubting my plan here is a brief rundown of how it doesn't hurt us to trust me right now:

1. No one's alignment is known. That means that staying the same and switching have roughly the same chances at being effective.
2. My plan effectively doesn't change anything until I reveal it tomorrow, where we will have a day phase to discuss it. This can only add content to analyze.
3. Should scum be afraid of it, then they will likely kill me tonight, resolving a slot of contention and confirming my alignment, which can only be a good thing for town.
4. If my logic is flawed, we will be able to figure that out, without having changed our play substantially.

There is no reason, at all, from a town POV not to at least humor me tonight.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:44 am

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In post 1633, Jordan_Downey wrote:Fine, TSO. VOTE: Aegor My vote will be going back to Dry-fit at about 6 here because I can't guarantee I'll be on after then.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:45 am

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Field Polarity:
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Vote CountShiny Hydreigon (0):
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ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (1): ZZZX
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TiphaineDeath (0):
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Dry-fit (10): Doublade, Xayzeck, RachMarie, Aegor, Saki, Spring Starflower, Jon_h61, Thor665, Shiny Hydreigon, PeregrineV
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TSO (1): Nachomamma8
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Titus (1): The Necromancers
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Aegor (9): Sharpest-knife-on-tree, TiphaineDeath, Dry-fit, Titus, MafiaSSK, Zdenek, TSO, Malakittens, Jordan_Downey
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Not Voting (0):

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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:32 am

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I honestly don't want an aegor vote just because tso wants it.

Still don't see anyone else sheeping you TSO, do you have a money back guarantee?

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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:48 am

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Yeah, I do.

This wagon has 8 people - it's not a TSO wagon. Aegor has been insipid today and will be tomorrow. He's way more likely to be scum than Dry-fit.

We have a full day, at least 7 people will be on during then. Don't remove your vote, please.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:53 am

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We have 9 hours. I will be moving my vote in roughly 4 because I can't guarantee I'll be on after then.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:56 am

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I'm okay with that.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:58 am

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Still here; happy to answer questions. I probably will not be insipid tomorrow, but I can guarantee that my activity will continue to be superior to Dry-Fit's.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:10 am

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Wow, we are getting a shit ton of thread avoidance at deadline.

Aegor, suppose you are the lynch. What are your reads?
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:29 am

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Dry-Fit and Necro should be lynched/vigged. Not much other than that.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:44 am

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VOTE: Aegor
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:46 am

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In post 1643, Titus wrote:Wow, we are getting a shit ton of thread avoidance at deadline.

Aegor, suppose you are the lynch. What are your reads?
yep, set yourself up to push us tomorrow.

usually, there's some kind of logic (albeit moonlogic) behind your pushes, but your push here is literally 100% bluster.

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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:50 am

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In post 1638, Jordan_Downey wrote:I honestly don't want an aegor vote just because tso wants it.

Still don't see anyone else sheeping you TSO, do you have a money back guarantee?

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I can understand the sentiment but it was not a TSO push it was more either/or here right?

Also I am not sure the value of your plan.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:51 am

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Then convince me of the damage following it causes.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:55 am

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At worst, my plan does not hurt us. At best, it gives us an advantage over scum. Why not give it a chance. I promise to full reveal tomorrow, as well as the rest of my setup spec so far.
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