Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[Antihero]

no one's rushing etl because there's no consensus

i feel like i'm going to be having talks with guyett and titus regarding goodmorning.

bubba seems to have dedicated himself to just tunneling jingle in defiance of logic and blissfully ignorant of the recent squirrel scumflip.
i don't know what the hell goodmorning's doing.

[Titus]

i'm back. its busy at work today. i didn't actually get going on gm ISO yet. I got started but just enough to quote all the posts and start reading. may be some time while i do this.. i'm fucking exhausted like you wouldn't believe. just dont rush through this day phase.

If you do, specifically comment on what if any content you are seeing. If I'm the only one who sees content, I'm probably making inferential leaps based on what I wanted to see rather than what was really there.

[bubbajack8]

bubba seems to have dedicated himself to just tunneling jingle in defiance of logic and blissfully ignorant of the recent squirrel scumflip.

Yeah that's totally what's going on. Read the post I quoted.

Anyway What if both GM and Jingle are scum. Wouldn't that be a win win

[Antihero]

bubba seems to have dedicated himself to just tunneling jingle in defiance of logic and blissfully ignorant of the recent squirrel scumflip.

Yeah that's totally what's going on. Read the post I quoted.

Anyway What if both GM and Jingle are scum. Wouldn't that be a win win

oh cool, pretty colors. nothing beyond that superficial level, though

if both jingle and GM are scum, they did a good job of disguising their bussing. plus ETL brought up some pretty good points about the slot being town.

[bubbajack8]

About GM being town?

Anti if you read deeper you'll see I'm saying I'm okay with voting wither of those now.

[Antihero]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5959811

jingle being town. thanks for letting me know you're not really reading the thread...

[Antihero]

you really think jingle's scum, bubba? why? if anyone fits into the "counterwagon to the scumbag" archetype, it's jingle. one of the jingle critics already flipped scum and you're saying you think GM is scum too so are you really pleased with the wagon company?

[bubbajack8]

I read that post, I saw a lot of "this is revealing' but no commentary on how.

Yes I do. I said it yesterday, are you the one not reading?

I think I am.

[Antihero]

so your response is to just keep on keepin' on?

i'll go read whatever it was yesterday then

[goodmorning]

I feel approximately like I'm being ripped open. I'll be back in a bit.

[Titus]

I read that post, I saw a lot of "this is revealing' but no commentary on how.

Yes I do. I said it yesterday, are you the one not reading?

I think I am.

Shouldn't you have some pause given SG's flip?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

holy shit titus. that's like the best thing you've said in a long time.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I saw a lot of "this is revealing' but no commentary on how.

also this a false throw-away discredit and i'm not going to dignify it with a quote wall.

[Jingle]

Guyett is conftown. SG would not have gotten lynched without him pushing the shit out of that wagon. Him pushing the SG lynch through to completion would be insane from scum.

ETL could theoretically be scum, I guess. If you think that read snork's play and her play. She's been obvtown, and snork was obvtown before her. Her hammer of SG doesn't look like a bussing hammer. There's too much reluctance.

I'm looking at {Titus, GM, Bubba} for the last two scum. The fact that I'm obviously the scum designated lynch and bubba came roaring out of the gates for me makes me want that most.

[bubbajack8]

so your response is to just keep on keepin' on?

i'll go read whatever it was yesterday then

My response is more of what the hell if Guyett's right about one thing in this game, then I obviously have no fucking clue.

I read that post, I saw a lot of "this is revealing' but no commentary on how.

Yes I do. I said it yesterday, are you the one not reading?

I think I am.

Shouldn't you have some pause given SG's flip?

Read the post I quoted please and thank you.

I saw a lot of "this is revealing' but no commentary on how.

also this a false throw-away discredit and i'm not going to dignify it with a quote wall.

I can't discredit an argument not there. Like seriously.

Oh gee maybe because I had just finished reading page 20 and nothing more than that until now.

Which I will now go back to

UNVOTE
VOTE: IKA

Explain why I'm scum. And he reason I'm voting you is because you have failed to explain when asked multiple times. And some how I still get a wagon.

I honestly don't give a flying fuck about that claim. It's too much WIFOM for me atm.

FoS: Anti

for coming out of the blue and voting me

FoS: SSK

because Anti didn't say shit to him when all he did was vote. With no explanation.
And Pants, explain why I'm scum.
Anti, explain why I'm scum.
SSK, explain why I'm scum.
ika, explain why I'm scum.

So, I just wanted to think about where this post is coming from. At this point in the game, he's getting wagoned. If scum, what is the purpose behind voting a claimed mason? The only reason I can come up with is trying to stay off any major wagon. But it calls a lot of attention to the slot doing that, if only because of the person he's voting. If this was the case, why not vote any other "safer" slot? If he just wanted to stay off a major wagon, there were 9 other people he could have chosen. This just doesn't come across as a scum vote in the least. And then, asking everyone on his wagon to give reasoning. I do think it's easy to do as either alignment, but the subsequent posts of his in the ISO from this one are increasingly frustrated, and in each one he's continually pushing for reasoning and explanation.

He latches onto Anti from all of that, because (according to him) Anti's reasoning makes the least sense to him. He keeps pushing Anti to answer his questions. For many, many posts.

This is all fine and dandy.

Does this look like a scum reaction? And then replacing out because he's too busy and "it wouldn't be fair"...

What do you think? 1st example of this and this, but I don't know what this means.

Answer my question please.

Answer. My. Question.

AND ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION.

Are you sure I'm not trying to figure out WHY people think I'm scum? Because that's what I did. The only reasoning that I've questioned is yours. Because it's crap. I'm not being apoplectic. I'm tearing at shit reasoning. Also, I "showed up at the 11th hour" because I forgot this game existed until I was prodded.

Limited commentary on ika? Oh shit that's horrible! I only gave reasoning! And why would any of that make you like him?

And now why don't you answer the other question I asked you- why did you just now point out that I got here late? Why are you avoiding answering my questions at all?


p-edit: those aren't fucking reads. They're comments, minus ika. Which was explained later.
And you failed to see the part where I said I had only read up to page 20, didn't you.
Now tell me where my posts corralate to the guide you linked.

This is also a pretty revealing post, imo.

He's asking good questions and trying to pin people down, and getting frustrated at not being heard/answered.

Bolded Fine example of what I"m talking about.. Italicized, That's nice. Since GM doesn't do that does that make him scum?

And can you please answer my questions when I ask them instead of avoiding them until I put on caps lock?

Before I go-
I haven't been lurking. I have been busy and unaware. If you guys have been paying attention, I have told you why I haven't been able to be as active as I would like. I don't have time for much, but-
WILL NOT LYNCH
GM
I'D RATHER NOT LYNCH
Snork, Titus, Bubba
I'M OKAY TO LYNCH
B_E, Kitoari(slot?)
WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH
Pants, ika, Anti

Yeah, I really do think your claim is shit. I feel like Kitoari's absence provides scum with a very good opportunity for something like a Mason claim if Kitoari is scum.

@MOD, I REQUEST REPLACEMENT. I WILL HAVE EXTREMELY LIMITED ACCESS FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME.

I'm sorry to everyone, but it wouldn't be fair for you guys to have to contend with an inactive slot, so I might as well get it out of the way and replaced ASAP.

This post is important... I just can't figure out why yet.

THIS IS MY PRIME FREAKING EXAMPLE. NO COMMENTARY.

Really not liking 266. Possible GM/Titus team. Possible GM/Titus/SSK. Unlikely that my reads are that good without interactions.

I actually really love this post, and the ones that precede it in the ISO. He's got an active commentary going as he catches up on the thread. Indication of alignment at this point in the ISO is null but it does add to the transparency of it.

Yup, so about halfway here.

Town can be:

Jingle
Antihero
Snork
DP

Town by association:
IKA

Null-Town:
Bubba

Null:
B_E

Needs to go drinking with me:
Guyett

Nullscum:
GM
SSK

Needs a rope:
Titus

Imma gonna quit rereading for now, but that's my reads as of p20 or thereabouts.

This is also an important post. I don't know that I like the SG slot being his dead null (but I suppose I can understand it).

I really do think the SG lynch was a happy accident, you know. It didn't seem like there were any strong opinions, other than from Guyett.

Let me say something and erase it all with the bolded. Thanks so much for your helpful commentary. /s

So you're argument is you liked one post and the others you're unsure about. HOw is this suppose to convince me of anything?

I'm looking at {Titus, GM, Bubba} for the last two scum. The fact that I'm obviously the scum designated lynch and bubba came roaring out of the gates for me makes me want that most.

I was on you all day yesterday, why wouldn't I be on you now?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'll get to your wall o' bullshit when I get back to a computer, bubba.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

First, I want you to explain why you altered my post to make it seem like the below quote ISN'T in reference to the post 641 by HighShroomish...

Does this look like a scum reaction? And then replacing out because he's too busy and "it wouldn't be fair"...

What do you think? 1st example of this and this, but I don't know what this means.

Answer my question please.

Answer. My. Question.

AND ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION.

Are you sure I'm not trying to figure out WHY people think I'm scum? Because that's what I did. The only reasoning that I've questioned is yours. Because it's crap. I'm not being apoplectic. I'm tearing at shit reasoning. Also, I "showed up at the 11th hour" because I forgot this game existed until I was prodded.

Limited commentary on ika? Oh shit that's horrible! I only gave reasoning! And why would any of that make you like him?

And now why don't you answer the other question I asked you- why did you just now point out that I got here late? Why are you avoiding answering my questions at all?


p-edit: those aren't fucking reads. They're comments, minus ika. Which was explained later.
And you failed to see the part where I said I had only read up to page 20, didn't you.
Now tell me where my posts corralate to the guide you linked.

This is also a pretty revealing post, imo.

He's asking good questions and trying to pin people down, and getting frustrated at not being heard/answered.

Bolded Fine example of what I"m talking about.. Italicized, That's nice. Since GM doesn't do that does that make him scum?

Errr... where did I say that? I'm pretty sure I didn't say that... I mean I suppose I could be mistaken... even though I did write the post myself and all... it's pretty obvious that I'm saying I think the above post is coming from a town POV. I'm curious why you chose to discredit the entire thing rather than ask for clarification, since you apparently were unable to understand what I was saying.

And can you please answer my questions when I ask them instead of avoiding them until I put on caps lock?

Before I go-
I haven't been lurking. I have been busy and unaware. If you guys have been paying attention, I have told you why I haven't been able to be as active as I would like. I don't have time for much, but-
WILL NOT LYNCH
GM
I'D RATHER NOT LYNCH
Snork, Titus, Bubba
I'M OKAY TO LYNCH
B_E, Kitoari(slot?)
WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH
Pants, ika, Anti

Yeah, I really do think your claim is shit. I feel like Kitoari's absence provides scum with a very good opportunity for something like a Mason claim if Kitoari is scum.

@MOD, I REQUEST REPLACEMENT. I WILL HAVE EXTREMELY LIMITED ACCESS FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME.

I'm sorry to everyone, but it wouldn't be fair for you guys to have to contend with an inactive slot, so I might as well get it out of the way and replaced ASAP.

This post is important... I just can't figure out why yet.

THIS IS MY PRIME FREAKING EXAMPLE. NO COMMENTARY.

Are you... on drugs or something... like.. the answer is right there... "I just can't figure out why yet" - i.e. I'm still thinking about it and I'll come back to this.

Really not liking 266. Possible GM/Titus team. Possible GM/Titus/SSK. Unlikely that my reads are that good without interactions.

I actually really love this post, and the ones that precede it in the ISO. He's got an active commentary going as he catches up on the thread. Indication of alignment at this point in the ISO is null but it does add to the transparency of it.

Yup, so about halfway here.

Town can be:

Jingle
Antihero
Snork
DP

Town by association:
IKA

Null-Town:
Bubba

Null:
B_E

Needs to go drinking with me:
Guyett

Nullscum:
GM
SSK

Needs a rope:
Titus

Imma gonna quit rereading for now, but that's my reads as of p20 or thereabouts.

This is also an important post. I don't know that I like the SG slot being his dead null (but I suppose I can understand it).

I really do think the SG lynch was a happy accident, you know. It didn't seem like there were any strong opinions, other than from Guyett.

Let me say something and erase it all with the bolded. Thanks so much for your helpful commentary. /s

Do you really need me to hold your hand and tell you that any reads post from a potential lynch candidate is imporant to take a look at? There's no explanations of those until the large post of his that I hadn't gotten to yet. You're really grasping at straws here bubba...

So you're argument is you liked one post and the others you're unsure about. HOw is this suppose to convince me of anything?

I'm not trying to convince you of shit because you're more than likely scum and on top of that, you're editing my posts to fit your agenda instead of possibly having an actual dialogue to sort out your weird fucking dumbass confusions, and that's fucking annoying me.

I'm looking at {Titus, GM, Bubba} for the last two scum. The fact that I'm obviously the scum designated lynch and bubba came roaring out of the gates for me makes me want that most.

I was on you all day yesterday, why wouldn't I be on you now?

UUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH BECAUSE SQUIRREL GIRL FLIPPED SCUM MAYBE AND JINGLE/SG DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE UNLESS YOU'RE A FUCKING BRAINLESS AMEOBA??

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm going to bed now because I got about 2 hours of sleep and my fucking head hurts.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Jingle (1): bubbajack8
Not voting (6): Antihero, EspeciallyTheLies, goodmorning, Guyett, Jingle, Titus

With

7

players alive, it takes

5

votes to lynch a player.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2014-07-02 21:04:12).

[Antihero]

<snip>

the quote stripe snipe...

walk me through the scumread on Jingle and don't tell me you did it yesterday because i didn't find it anywhere

[bubbajack8]

First, I want you to explain why you altered my post to make it seem like the below quote ISN'T in reference to the post 641 by HighShroomish...

Does this look like a scum reaction? And then replacing out because he's too busy and "it wouldn't be fair"...

What do you think? 1st example of this and this, but I don't know what this means.

Answer my question please.

Answer. My. Question.

AND ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION.

Are you sure I'm not trying to figure out WHY people think I'm scum? Because that's what I did. The only reasoning that I've questioned is yours. Because it's crap. I'm not being apoplectic. I'm tearing at shit reasoning. Also, I "showed up at the 11th hour" because I forgot this game existed until I was prodded.

Limited commentary on ika? Oh shit that's horrible! I only gave reasoning! And why would any of that make you like him?

And now why don't you answer the other question I asked you- why did you just now point out that I got here late? Why are you avoiding answering my questions at all?


p-edit: those aren't fucking reads. They're comments, minus ika. Which was explained later.
And you failed to see the part where I said I had only read up to page 20, didn't you.
Now tell me where my posts corralate to the guide you linked.

This is also a pretty revealing post, imo.

He's asking good questions and trying to pin people down, and getting frustrated at not being heard/answered.

Bolded Fine example of what I"m talking about.. Italicized, That's nice. Since GM doesn't do that does that make him scum?

Errr... where did I say that? I'm pretty sure I didn't say that... I mean I suppose I could be mistaken... even though I did write the post myself and all... it's pretty obvious that I'm saying I think the above post is coming from a town POV. I'm curious why you chose to discredit the entire thing rather than ask for clarification, since you apparently were unable to understand what I was saying.

That's what I'm saying. So if that's town is GM scum for not doing those things?

And can you please answer my questions when I ask them instead of avoiding them until I put on caps lock?

Before I go-
I haven't been lurking. I have been busy and unaware. If you guys have been paying attention, I have told you why I haven't been able to be as active as I would like. I don't have time for much, but-
WILL NOT LYNCH
GM
I'D RATHER NOT LYNCH
Snork, Titus, Bubba
I'M OKAY TO LYNCH
B_E, Kitoari(slot?)
WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH
Pants, ika, Anti

Yeah, I really do think your claim is shit. I feel like Kitoari's absence provides scum with a very good opportunity for something like a Mason claim if Kitoari is scum.

@MOD, I REQUEST REPLACEMENT. I WILL HAVE EXTREMELY LIMITED ACCESS FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME.

I'm sorry to everyone, but it wouldn't be fair for you guys to have to contend with an inactive slot, so I might as well get it out of the way and replaced ASAP.

This post is important... I just can't figure out why yet.

THIS IS MY PRIME FREAKING EXAMPLE. NO COMMENTARY.

Are you... on drugs or something... like.. the answer is right there... "I just can't figure out why yet" - i.e. I'm still thinking about it and I'll come back to this.

But it proves my point there's no commentary. "Why post it if you don't even know why you're posting it" - Jaden Smith

Really not liking 266. Possible GM/Titus team. Possible GM/Titus/SSK. Unlikely that my reads are that good without interactions.

I actually really love this post, and the ones that precede it in the ISO. He's got an active commentary going as he catches up on the thread. Indication of alignment at this point in the ISO is null but it does add to the transparency of it.

Yup, so about halfway here.

Town can be:

Jingle
Antihero
Snork
DP

Town by association:
IKA

Null-Town:
Bubba

Null:
B_E

Needs to go drinking with me:
Guyett

Nullscum:
GM
SSK

Needs a rope:
Titus

Imma gonna quit rereading for now, but that's my reads as of p20 or thereabouts.

This is also an important post. I don't know that I like the SG slot being his dead null (but I suppose I can understand it).

I really do think the SG lynch was a happy accident, you know. It didn't seem like there were any strong opinions, other than from Guyett.

Let me say something and erase it all with the bolded. Thanks so much for your helpful commentary. /s

Do you really need me to hold your hand and tell you that any reads post from a potential lynch candidate is imporant to take a look at? There's no explanations of those until the large post of his that I hadn't gotten to yet. You're really grasping at straws here bubba...

THERES NO EXPLANATION. THAT'S WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING. LOL

So you're argument is you liked one post and the others you're unsure about. HOw is this suppose to convince me of anything?

I'm not trying to convince you of shit because you're more than likely scum and on top of that, you're editing my posts to fit your agenda instead of possibly having an actual dialogue to sort out your weird fucking dumbass confusions, and that's fucking annoying me.

I didn't edit your post at all. They are original. Go check it out.

I'm looking at {Titus, GM, Bubba} for the last two scum. The fact that I'm obviously the scum designated lynch and bubba came roaring out of the gates for me makes me want that most.

I was on you all day yesterday, why wouldn't I be on you now?

UUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH BECAUSE SQUIRREL GIRL FLIPPED SCUM MAYBE AND JINGLE/SG DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE UNLESS YOU'RE A FUCKING BRAINLESS AMEOBA??

[/quote]

Defend your scumbuddy more. Thanks.

@Anti

Alright check it out. It's all Guyett. First my scumread rode on scumreading Guyett. Now with the flip Guyett looks town so it still follows Guyett. It's a win win. Plus if you go to my ISO ctrl+F Jingle, you'll find the answer to all your problems.

[goodmorning]

Right now, what I'm seeing is a lot of noise and very little thought. Coherence seems to be at something of a premium.

I'm going to come back tomorrow and discuss Snork/ETL.

[Titus]

@ETL, I'm not as certain on Jingle being town. AS you recall, a lot of people voted Jingle at the early game. SG had reluctance to. Jingle has reluctance to get on the SG wagon.

[Antihero]

Right now, what I'm seeing is a lot of noise and very little thought.

oh hey goodmorning, nice to see ya'

are we finally going to have some quality time or should i just fill up a bathtub with my own vomit and then marinate myself in it tonight?

[bubbajack8]

I found his post rather what's the word for pot calling the kettle black?