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Post Post #31875 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:35 pm

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Post Post #31876 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:48 pm

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Who wants to bet $$ on the over/under of iec's placement? :p
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Post Post #31877 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:52 pm

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In post 31876, AngryPidgeon wrote:Who wants to bet $$ on the over/under of iec's placement? :p
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Post Post #31878 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:52 pm

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i win ties.
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Post Post #31879 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:54 pm

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Post Post #31880 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:54 pm

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In post 31876, AngryPidgeon wrote:Who wants to bet $$ on the over/under of iec's placement? :p
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Post Post #31881 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:06 pm

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In post 31876, AngryPidgeon wrote:Who wants to bet $$ on the over/under of iec's placement? :p
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Post Post #31882 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:08 pm

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though I haven't played with him recently but I think where he vs average improvement potential and this works
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Post Post #31883 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:14 pm

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chesskid3 wrote:
In post 31876, AngryPidgeon wrote:Who wants to bet $$ on the over/under of iec's placement? :p
and no cheating and doing them for him
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Post Post #31884 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:42 pm

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In post 31882, ActionDan wrote:though I haven't played with him recently but I think where he vs average improvement potential and this works
lol no. I played with him recently in an aram

though maybe he wasnt trying idk
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Post Post #31885 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:52 pm

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ah well I guess I'll go to Bronze 3 then.

Leblanc feels sad to play without the silence. Why did they kill off that. T_T. on the plus side, distortion cd is lower so that's a little nicer.
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Post Post #31886 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:53 pm

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also playing dota makes LoL feel MUCH EASIER HOLY COW.

Play Dota.
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Post Post #31887 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:59 pm

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My elo decayed to gold 1. Well, at least I'm in leblanc's tricksters. I couldn't ask for more.
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Post Post #31888 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:48 pm

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umm... I'll bet if you give an under/over... but ummm bronze 2 if it's a guessing game
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Post Post #31889 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:58 pm

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Can I bet without betting money cuz if I can I'd like to bet on silver 3/4 depending on whether he wins the first promo (3 if win, 4 if loss).
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Post Post #31890 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:38 pm

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So i've been trying quinn, i then looked up some build guides, and seen i have been leveling her skills wrong (W>E>Q is what i was doing)

Wouldn't the AS/MS steroid (coupled with the easier facechecking more often) on her W be worth more then the slight shorter cooldowns on the E/Q?

Or is this a case of me being a bit of a herpderp?
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Post Post #31891 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:23 pm

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The e is also a gap closer / increases with a mini-interrupt, a slow, and procs your passive on the target for free.

Basically it's the best of her abilities to max.

W vs Q is about damage - q is more damage per level, w is a good level one then don't level again skill (similar to ashe's e)
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Post Post #31892 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:45 pm

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In post 31891, RayFrost wrote:The e is also a gap closer / increases with a mini-interrupt, a slow, and procs your passive on the target for free.

Basically it's the best of her abilities to max.

W vs Q is about damage - q is more damage per level, w is a good level one then don't level again skill (similar to ashe's e)
Except unlike Ashe's E the AS and MS on the W gets procced every time you pop your passive, and to me it would seem like that would be worth more then the Q damage.

The E i can somewhat understand being an early leveler.
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Post Post #31893 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:50 pm

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Well, think of it like this:

Is the q super significant at level one? Eh, kinda. Is the w super significant at level one? Hell yes.

Which one needs more levels to be relevant into the mid-game? Q. Which one can be level one and still be relevant into the mid-game? W.
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Post Post #31894 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:39 pm

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So the reason why is because it's being used for damage over utility and that means people level it sooner.

Guess i'll just be that weird person who level's my skills differently and uses her Q as a utility move over a damage one :P
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Post Post #31895 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:36 am

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q/e max on quinn in all lanes depends on how reliably you can land the q on your foes and how relevant the gapmaker part of the E is
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Post Post #31896 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:29 am

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I'm really bad at carrying. I can get a small lead, the kill or two, but I can never snowball, no matter who I'm playing.

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Post Post #31897 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:43 am

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If you find you can't keep killing your lane opponent, abuse the fact you're ahead and push down the tower and roam to make use of your lead to get your team more of one.

If you're top, push it down and go push mid, then rotate to bot. If you're mid, push it down or just straight up roam to bot. If your roam is successful, dragon becomes free (successful includes forcing them to back on low health, meaning they can't contest). If you're bot, push it down, roam to get mid tower, and assert control over dragon. If you're jungling, counterjungle ward deep in their jungle assert presence and control over objectives (including going to gank and then push top lane for example or getting dragon after forcing them to be in bot lane).

Also keep in mind that you can get a kill but if you're losing a fuckton of cs having to go back all the time in exchange for getting them that you're not actually getting much of a lead. Sometimes it's worth it to just force them to b, get all that delicious farm, and conserve your flash for an easier opportunity (instead of flashing into tower while your lane is pushed to your side, getting the kill, then having to back or risk Foolish Death).
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Post Post #31898 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:44 am

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I've been kinda unsure.

I max Q, then i just hodgepodge W/E after that usually. (I think this happens because I used to max E second, now I try to do W but force of habit makes me click E anyway.)

I also don't really find w useful in lane that much. I keep it to level 4, like ashe E used to be. Maybe might be changing my mind a bit on that and doing at at 3, but it really is not a level 1 thing.

Like, if you land q you can probably get another AA off for free - thats the Q damage PLUS the autoattack.
E is really good. With one rank in the skill in lane, E does everything W does. Makes you faster relative to an enemy + lets you do more damage. And it's a lot more reliable.
W? yeah, you need it but not really compared to Q/E.

I don't think maxing E over Q first is a great idea, because the E has so much stuff on it - you don't want to have to use it for damage as well as a gapmaker/closer, slow and interrupt.

Pedit: No matter who you're playing? Are you trying a lot of different stuff every now and then? Try stick with one champion if you can if so.

Are you over-prioritising kills to the point where you don't farm and thus don't end up with much gold?
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Post Post #31899 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:40 am

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Gotta love the AFK's

Had my first normal game as quinn, had a blitz support that never even connected, had a fiora top that fed a jax top and then roamed and afk'd for the end part.

fucking awesome, sadly i still ended laning phase on something like 3/0/1 with the most CS in the game in a 2v1 vs a leona and vayne.
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