Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Light

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (1): Titus
Saki (1): Dry-fit
ZZZX (2): Thor665, Xayzeck
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (2): ZZZX, TiphaineDeath
Eddie Fenix (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (1): Jordan_Downey
Dry-fit (3): Saki, RachMarie, Doublade
Malakittens (2): Jon_h61, Shiny Hydreigon
Nachomamma8 (0):
MafiaSSK (0):
Thor665 (0):
Jon_h61 (0):
Xayzeck (0):
The Necromancers (0):
Titus (5): Spring Starflower, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Malakittens, PeregrineV, The Necromancers
Jordan_Downey (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (3): Eddie Fenix, Nachomamma8, MafiaSSK

It is day 2. With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day ends on Saturday, July 5 at 9:45pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-07-05 21:45:00).

Titus is V/LA until Monday, June 30.
Shiny Hydreigon is V/LA until Wednesday, July 9.

[jon_h61]

Hmmmm.

why null read for me?

(still dont see jon town)

I'm pretty sure you know why, or at least a big part of the reason why I'm scum reading you. Why, beside me scum reading you, are you scum reading me? Please don't go, Necro's case, because that's just a non-case.

[Titus]

I see Jon town because I see no case beyond lurker Jon. I ask for a case... no one says, Titus look here. You missed it.

Yet his wagon takes off.

Wagons that take off for reasons no one can explain are almost always on town.

>still ignoring mastin's talah cases.
>according the vote count, the only people who have voted jon are ... mala and us. so how you can assert the wagon "took off" is beyond reason.

Where are Mastin's talah cases? Link me please. That's precisely what I have been asking for.

Everyone started throwing mud that jon was scum cuz lurkerage. That's a take off of a wagon in my book.

[Titus]

VLA starting now. I will try to post daily.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: ZZZX

NO
NO
NO
NO
VOTE TITUS

Or even an opinion on the Titus situation.

[PeregrineV]

@Thor

- If I'm locked then I didn't change.

@Titus

- Was looking for your analysis of why each voter was voting you, and what it said about their possible alignment.

@Xay

- opinion on Starflower, Titus, and Jon

@ZZXX-

using the "Player A is scummier and lurkier than I am" rarely is a town-based defense.

[Malakittens]

mod: I'm going V/LA for two days. Need to clear my mind a bit for RL things.

[Thor665]

I see your case, I'm just not sold by it but understand the theory you're running with.
I think my theory is stronger.
I don't have any preconceived notions about Spring's alignment.

Also, if I wanted to argue it - one could suggest that the lack of willingness to place a vote might just be distancing as opposed to an actual desire to lynch him - proven by the lack of a vote while using harsh language, ergo making them scumbuddies. But I have long been of the opinion that almost anything can be argued or justified in Mafia .

[Thor665]

Lost a page. Above is @ Tiphanie.

[Thor665]

I see Jon town because I see no case beyond lurker Jon. I ask for a case... no one says, Titus look here. You missed it.

Yet his wagon takes off.

Wagons that take off for reasons no one can explain are almost always on town.

>still ignoring mastin's talah cases.
>according the vote count, the only people who have voted jon are ... mala and us.

so how you can assert the wagon "took off" is beyond reason

.

Where are Mastin's talah cases? Link me please. That's precisely what I have been asking for.

Everyone started throwing mud that jon was scum cuz lurkerage.

That's a take off of a wagon in my book.

I know see Titus scum.

What is this gak, Titus - start a justification dance for me, asap.

[EddieFenix]

I see Jon town because I see no case beyond lurker Jon. I ask for a case... no one says, Titus look here. You missed it.

Yet his wagon takes off.

Wagons that take off for reasons no one can explain are almost always on town.

>still ignoring mastin's talah cases.
>according the vote count, the only people who have voted jon are ... mala and us. so how you can assert the wagon "took off" is beyond reason.

Where are Mastin's talah cases? Link me please. That's precisely what I have been asking for.

Everyone started throwing mud that jon was scum cuz lurkerage. That's a take off of a wagon in my book.

My question right now is... Where is said Jon wagon?? Cause, unless I can't read, I don't see it... Or have seen it from previous VC's.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

I see no reason to move from Titus... I am not seeing town titus at the moment I believe.

[Thor665]

@Eddie - She's changed her story to a wagon that had some verbal support - as opposed to a wagon that had voting support. She is well aware that there were no votes on the wagon. Stop flogging a horse and react to the new stance.

[Thor665]

I'll also toss in though that, besides me, I'm not sure who expressed support to the idea of the wagon without placing a vote on it.

[EddieFenix]

Well... Guess I can't read for chit then. Gonna take me a few more days to get into this game tbh. Not being in from the start and playing catch up is annoying as hell. So Thor, who do you want strung up today?

[Thor665]

I think ZZZX is a solid pick, and there's a decent roll of the dice that Titus is as well. If you picked either of them to pressure I would be happily content with your vote.

[EddieFenix]

Alright, to get ZZZX's read list to us faster... I shall

Vote ZZZX

I REALLY don't like it when people say 1 thing, then not follow thru.

[Bulbazak]

Prodding Doublade.

[Bulbazak]

Replacing Spring Starflower as well. Did I tick off a voodoo priest or something?

[Xayzeck]

@Xay- opinion on Starflower, Titus, and Jon

I think starflower is town but that's an old read. I don't remember him doing much recently, so could be scum, or just lazy.

but I've been skimming a lot of their posts and now really reading them. I saw the Titus "scumslip", but I don't really think it is? It was the "you're not really helping us" where "us" is suppose to be the scumteam, but I thought of it as the town rather than the scumteam. content wise i'm not sure, never really bothered looking at her posts

jon I thought was town and kinda do still think is town, but everybody else thinks otherwise. Sure the entrance wasn't the best, but I wouldn't call it scummy like others have. I have read some and I keep thinking he's town, but others keep calling him scum, I've just gave up on him and let others sort him. I think there's some meta arguments here that I don't have to help sort him

[ZZZX]

Readlist coming after either 1 hour if I can finish the new one in that time of 5 hours where I will be home.

[ZZZX]

Shiny Hydreigon:

his content is so low it made me cry. a quick iso showed he has put about ~7(I think?) naked voted and did not try to actively hunt and he is only contracting himself so much. He was also whiteknighting at the end of day 1 as it seems Here are a few quotes:

Spoiler:

VOTE: mala

Eh.. just Isoed him, leaning town

Thats awesome!

And, I

think

dryfit is the one I called town in my irritation yesterday, But I dont recall him doing much, or standing out a whole lot, which is typical dryfit, so

Uh.. well, fuck me, jordan might be town? That said, it does have a pretty big flaw, in that it means ALL of town is going to have to trust them, in which I still do not, and claiming whether or not one has changed would peg them as a target for NK, and make it easier for scum to figure out who is light if those among them are dark, because of the field change

Yes, not voting aegor, and I am pretty sure that, once he's claimed, dryfit will get inched regardless

REFUSE

I refuse to lynch aegor, regardless of fucking deadline

Leaning Scum

Doublade:

Nothing much to say here. my only point in reading marquis is how playful marquis's game is. It seems playful enough but I feel something is off. ANd he hasnt posted since 5~ days so I have to leave this at

null

Saki: The One and Only true lurker .... 14 POSTS ONLY? REALLY? and you guys FREAKING CALLED ME OUT FOR LURKING WITH me having 6 times her posts?! Her few posts contained NOTHING AT ALL

Leaning Scum

ZZZX : I EZ TOWN
PeregrineV : His reaction to mala seemed interesting enough but he didnt even capitalize on it even thou he was like "I got it!" giving me a scum bus vibes.

Leaning Scum

Spring Starflower : My strongest scum read. Even thou its based on meta. I have never seen town MS not cause a whole feast of **** in the game with a bazillion fake claims and gambits. Somehow he is playing REALLY careful this game. And to top it off? A hydra is lurking worse than me which is unbelievable

Scum

Eddie Fenix : Is trying to push the game really hard. Which is a good thing? Otherwise I dont really have much to say about him. But I will iso him when I feel like it.

Leaning town

TiphaineDeath: Lots of contradactions and has recently posted posts that feel... Off. Here are some of his contradaction posts that appear closely to each others.

Spoiler:

I made a mistake yesterday, I will not make the same mistake again. Occam commands me, VOTE: Xayzeck.

Also acceptable lynches would be titus or zzzx, though I have an unfortunate history of scumreading titus when she's town so I'm a bit more leery of that one.

In other news though anyone still scumreading necro should be shot to increase the intelligence of the gene pool. And thor is probably town.

ZZx has 0 votes, zzx is voting spring starflower, star flower says LYNCH THIS! with no reasoning and no vote.

Yeah no.

VOTE: Spring Starflower

I can dig it, I wanna see if I can get my spring wagon to work, but if I can't I'll join you on titus.

#malatown.

But why would the wording "us" mean anything. A townie titus townreading jon could quite easily say us while trying to coach.

Titus could still quite easily be scum, especially given how horrid fear was, but I'm honestly not seeing the slip here.

Leaning Scum

Sharpest-knife-on-tree : I feel satisfied how he is actively trying to push me to vote in a productive way and his posts feel town.

Leaning Town

Dry-fit : His posts seem good but I cant deny his post count is low as if he is trying to post good posts as little as possible to get off with town-reads and not get noticed? Its all theory thou.

Null

Malakittens : That muiltiball comment is really scummy. Its all built on the fact people will think no scum is sane enough to do so. I used to think that too until I took a lynch to the knee.

Scum

Nachomamma8 : He has NO posts but all his posts sucked.

Leaning scum

(But we can look at the fact he is being replaced)
MafiaSSK : TBC
Thor665 :TBC
Jon_h61 :TBC
Xayzeck :TBC
The Necromancers : I hate this post

Spoiler:

Can I do a readslist?

I kinda wanna do a readslist.

7. Zdenek
2. Doublade (Marquis/Caledfwitch)
6. Spring Starflower (Metal Sonic/Sakura Hana)
3. Saki
4. ZZZX
14. MafiaSSK
15. Natirasha
16. Talah
5. PeregrineV
12. Nachomamma8 (ftr, I'm probably gonna assign a "for all of day one, town no matter what" read to Nacho just 'cuz I can)
22. RachMarie (probably town anyway)
13. TSO (also likely town anyway)
10. Dry-fit (and probably town-I'll-misread-as-scum)
8. TiphaineDeath
21. Aegor
9. Sharpest-knife-on-tree
19. Fear (Yessiree/Emogirl123)
11. The Most Curious Thing
20. Jordan_Downey (Jingle/Aphix)
17. Xayzeck


1. Shiny Hydreigon (Wisdom/Notscience/Ms Marangal)
^No posts yet and no read. (Gun to head, town.)

Obv list is not solidified. But rough sketch says this holds.

It is basically a read on Dry (a detailed one) before he even got to post. If we ever lynch this guy and he is scum this list is worth looking at.
Titus : TBC
Jordan_Downey :TBC
RachMarie : TBC


Reads with TBC will be done later today or tommorrow. I actually couldnt find the old readlist and just completed most of the one I was working at. Now I will go rest and find something to freaking eat.

[EddieFenix]

Lotta wiggle room in there, ZZZX. Also, is The Necromancers in the TBC, or did you have a specific lean/read that you forgot?

[RachMarie]

do not like this read list Sam I Am

VOTE: zzk

[Doublade]

Malakittens : That muiltiball comment is really scummy. Its all built on the fact people will think no scum is sane enough to do so. I used to think that too until I took a lynch to the knee.

Scum

OK, I'm not the best player around, but this is gross. Scum based on one comment?? Ugh.

VOTE: ZZZX

[caled]