Mini 1585: Muskoka Murder Mystery - Game Over

[BipolarChemist]

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[Misaka Network]

I can't get a meta for you because you don't sign your posts. That's at your discretion though, I'll respect the anonymity provided by being a hydra.

I, FakeGod, has done all the posting, and will continue to do all the posting.

Gaiden and I have a separate hydra QT in which we discuss the game.

This is what a true hydra looks like, by the way.

[Jakuzure Nonon]

This is what a true hydra looks like, by the way.

Screw you. Hydras come in all sizes, shapes, and personalities! What are you, some kind of hydra elitist??

Anyway:

Caled head is V/LA until the 4th of July.

Fei, do good in my place.

[Konowa]

Wait, what? Haha. I've barely posted. Why do I have 3 votes?

Konowa, though, voted for me out of the blue, didn't give any reasons, and then went on and responded to other things. I feel as if he thought that since I was picking up steam on the lynches, he could get a vote right in the middle for him not to look too guilty. Tried just sneaking that vote in. Not only that, he asked for reasonings behind a conclusion made by someone else, and yet he didn't give any for his vote on me. Explain please?

Cursory meta shows that you understand the game. #87 is pretty scumtacular though. But #88 makes me think you are in way over your head.

From D1 posts I feel that Churve, Super, Start, reinoe and possibly DJ are town aligned. As for you Konowa, I see you are scum hunting but have offered little in the way of reads. You're a town read as of now, but I want you to post any reads that you may have.

One of {Aneninen, reinoe, Jakuzure, Super Mario}.

Leaning on reinoe and Jakuzure right now.

[reinoe]

Wait, what? Haha. I've barely posted. Why do I have 3 votes?

Konowa, though, voted for me out of the blue, didn't give any reasons, and then went on and responded to other things. I feel as if he thought that since I was picking up steam on the lynches, he could get a vote right in the middle for him not to look too guilty. Tried just sneaking that vote in. Not only that, he asked for reasonings behind a conclusion made by someone else, and yet he didn't give any for his vote on me. Explain please?

Cursory meta shows that you understand the game. #87 is pretty scumtacular though. But #88 makes me think you are in way over your head.

From D1 posts I feel that Churve, Super, Start, reinoe and possibly DJ are town aligned. As for you Konowa, I see you are scum hunting but have offered little in the way of reads. You're a town read as of now, but I want you to post any reads that you may have.

One of {Aneninen, reinoe, Jakuzure, Super Mario}.

Leaning on reinoe and Jakuzure right now.

Leaning on reinoe and Jakuzure what?

[BroodKingEXE]

Wait, what? Haha. I've barely posted. Why do I have 3 votes?

Konowa, though, voted for me out of the blue, didn't give any reasons, and then went on and responded to other things. I feel as if he thought that since I was picking up steam on the lynches, he could get a vote right in the middle for him not to look too guilty. Tried just sneaking that vote in. Not only that, he asked for reasonings behind a conclusion made by someone else, and yet he didn't give any for his vote on me. Explain please?

Cursory meta shows that you understand the game. #87 is pretty scumtacular though. But #88 makes me think you are in way over your head.

From D1 posts I feel that Churve, Super, Start, reinoe and possibly DJ are town aligned. As for you Konowa, I see you are scum hunting but have offered little in the way of reads. You're a town read as of now, but I want you to post any reads that you may have.

One of {Aneninen, reinoe, Jakuzure, Super Mario}.

Leaning on reinoe and Jakuzure right now.

Please point out, what meta you are referring to Konowa (what games, posts that seem informed)?

[BroodKingEXE]

Please link one of your previous games where you claimed miller first post, if you have one.

Don't have one. Thoughts?

One of {Aneninen, reinoe, Jakuzure, Super Mario}.

If this is a post of your reads, it really is quite vague. What interactions or reads have led to a realization about this bunch? Later you mention reinoe and jak, but don't indicate which alignment. The lack of clarity is reading scummy to me.

[Aneninen]

We feel that the wagon is scum-driven. It's a crap wagon.

~F

My vote was only a random vote. Boonskiies pointed out that as well.
Besides, his question whether anyone a read had seems to be newbish, not esentially scummy to me.

[Konowa]

He [Boonskiies] has less than 150 posts, and just doing a cursory meta search, meaning I skimmed, showed that he has a understanding of the game. Going "why do I have three votes? I haven't done anything" as he did in post #64 is awkward scum. The disconnect in his thought process in 87, he shows that he understands voting to try and get reactions but I'm "sneaking a vote in", doesn't click with me.

30 was vague because it was more of a mental note. After I claimed Misaka immediately addressed it but the following four went on with RVS shenanigans. I feel that scum would be more likely to avoid discussing millers because of awkwardness. Scum want to prolong the amount of time before they have to actually talk about anything. Due to experience I would have expected a town reinoe or Jakuzure to respond to the claim. reinoe did in post #35 address the claim, but hasn't done anything else yet. Same with Jakuzure.

More after coffee.

[Aneninen]

I read that khm, "claim" but I simply thought it was a joke.

[BroodKingEXE]

He [Boonskiies] has less than 150 posts, and just doing a cursory meta search, meaning I skimmed, showed that he has a understanding of the game. Going "why do I have three votes? I haven't done anything" as he did in post #64 is awkward scum. The disconnect in his thought process in 87, he shows that he understands voting to try and get reactions but I'm "sneaking a vote in", doesn't click with me.

30 was vague because it was more of a mental note. After I claimed Misaka immediately addressed it but the following four went on with RVS shenanigans. I feel that scum would be more likely to avoid discussing millers because of awkwardness. Scum want to prolong the amount of time before they have to actually talk about anything. Due to experience I would have expected a town reinoe or Jakuzure to respond to the claim. reinoe did in post #35 address the claim, but hasn't done anything else yet. Same with Jakuzure.

More after coffee.

I see it very differently, so far Boon has

finished

one game and that game was a newbie game. Right now he is 5 games including a newbie, pretty in over his head as you said. I'm not going to go into details about his other ongoing games, but this post from Newbie 1509 sums it up for me:

After reading the thread, I actually believe it's probably best to lynch me so we have a better chance at getting successful lynches. We'll be able to see who jumped on the wagon without much real concern of putting reasoning behind it, other than the fact that having multiple replacements has made my slot look incredibly scummy.

Boon's understanding of the game is far from fully developed, and his first game really wasn't that long ago. While I don't like his play at all, the meta read and his relative inexperience is leaving me hesitant to label him as scum. The question mark bouncing around my head is: if he is scum where is the help? His posts don't feel coached and their quality suggests confused townie more than scum. If you can explain why a scum buddy would let this wagon keep gaining traction, I'm all ears.

[BroodKingEXE]

I can't get a meta for you because you don't sign your posts. That's at your discretion though, I'll respect the anonymity provided by being a hydra.

I, FakeGod, has done all the posting, and will continue to do all the posting.

Gaiden and I have a separate hydra QT in which we discuss the game.

This is what a true hydra looks like, by the way.

Yeah, I'm not gonna try and analyze Gaiden's D1 from Micro 305.

Do you have any reads in the meantime?

[Jakuzure Nonon]

I've stated in Touhou UPick 2 that

all

miller claims bug me. It's on the first page.

I'm in the process of developing reads but anything major would have to wait until I get ahold of caled. For now, I'm willing to put down the miller claim as town for a couple days. (fwiw the last miller claim I seen dealt with ended up town.)

Super needs to get his ass back here and do stuff. umu

~F

[evilpacman18]

Well, thoughts on the Konowa? Like you said, the RVS seemed not over, and yet I have 4 votes on me. At least one of them are scum.

I think he's town I guess because I agree with him about BroodkingEXE, who I think could be scum. About you idk but I'd be hard pressed to find scum on your wagon, none of the votes ping on my scumdar except don_johnson's if I look at it a certain way.

[evilpacman18]

But #88 makes me think you are in way over your head.

This occurred to me too

[evilpacman18]

for you people concerned with meta, I just won a scum game

[BipolarChemist]

Jakuzure Nonon and Super Mario are being replaced due to unforeseen circumstances

[Aneninen]

I see it very differently, so far Boon has

finished

one game and that game was a newbie game. Right now he is 5 games including a newbie, pretty in over his head as you said.

(...)

The question mark bouncing around my head is: if he is scum where is the help? His posts don't feel coached and their quality suggests confused townie more than scum. If you can explain why a scum buddy would let this wagon keep gaining traction, I'm all ears.

5 games!? Isn't that a bit too much? I don't think I could handle that many games but, it's possible that others are less busy than I am.

The second part is a very good question. That gave me an idea and I'm going to keep my eyes open.

@Konowa

Why exactly did you claim Miller? (1) Joke (2) Reaction test (3) Because you are one (4) Other...?
Because, I thought it was a joke. Especially since If I remembered that the Miller role is a hidden one.
But, having read the Wiki-page again, I realized that it

is

a common tactic to claim in the first post. (And, it's not esentially a hidden role.) if so, you might clarify this question for me. (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller)
I don't know whether it is a good tactic to ask this question but I have no experience with Millers. If you don't want to answer my question, at least give a theoretical post about Millers, please.

[BipolarChemist]

Official Vote Count

Boonskiies (4):

Aneninen, don_johnson, Misaka Network, Konowa [L-3]

Super Mario (2):

Jakuzure Nonon, Reinoe

Chevre (1):

startfromtheheart

Aneninen (1):

Super Mario

Konowa (1):

Boonskiies

Jakuzure Nonon (1):

chaoslord54

evilpacman13 (1):

Chevre

Not Voting

: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Time Till Deadline: (expired on 2014-07-11 13:16:00)

chaosload54 is V/LA until July 4th

Guyett Replaces Super Mario Immediately!

[Guyett]

Suppppp niggggassss

[evilpacman18]

[Guyett]

Berty bert bert talk to me
Who's town and who's dirty dirty scum

[Boonskiies]

I pretty much always have a tAb open on my phone for this, and post when I feel necessary. 5 games isn't anything really. So long as I don't fall behind.

[evilpacman18]

so what you're saying is you're not really doing anything with your life

[Guyett]

5 games isn't that much... I think I've played maybe 9 games at once here.... that was fun

could someone explain why boon is the leading wagon?