Newbie 1515: Old-Timey Mafia [GAME OVER]

[BoroPhil]

so many votable people, and only one vote.

it's always slow on weekends btw

[Cheery Dog]

Vote: Flames628

Are you going to randomly changing votes all game?

so many votable people, and only one vote.

You should explain why they're all votable. That'll help you pick one.

[Boonskiies]

It's just RVS, no one's reacting.

[Cheery Dog]

Why do you think changing your vote would cause more reaction when none had been happening beforehand?

[Boonskiies]

Didn't. Just wanted to see who's call me out for it to cause some commotion. Threads going by rather slow, although it is the weekend.

[Thesp]

I will be able to post more substantially tonight, but I am disappointed in the number of people not answering my questions. Please do if you have not done so already. I will explain why I care tonight, but basically it helps me get a better feel for players.

[Jake from State Farm]

I won't be answering them

[Thesp]

Why?

[Jake from State Farm]

It's pointless. Which is why I asked you why you started asking the questions.

Can you answer my question?

[Cheery Dog]

In the hope that it somehow creates better talking points, I'll give you some bogus answers.
Whatever the heck it being my scumday means in terms of experience.
Whichever side is winning.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Cheery Dog

Because I keep wanting to call him cherry, and that makes me want a Shirley temple.

[Flames682]

VOTE: Boonskiies

My God stop randomly changing RVS votes it's getting annoying (lol this post is ironic).

[Jake from State Farm]

mod please prod some random boy. He's never posted at all

[Jake from State Farm]

and TheGottemer, it's been 48 hours since his last post

[Jake from State Farm]

vote : theGottemer

Logged on earlier today and no posts.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Boonskiies

My God stop randomly changing RVS votes it's getting annoying (lol this post is ironic).

Until we get some actual conversation going, I see no point as to not. It's obviously random, so it shouldn't be seen as scummy, and I am in no danger of a lynch seeing as I have no true scummy evidence, rather than just annoyance.

[BoroPhil]

Hello!

I will be inactive until Monday with guests in town. However, I'd like for everyone to answer two questions:
1) What experience do you have playing Mafia?
2) Do you like playing as Mafia or as Town better? Why?

I look forward to a fun little game of murder with you!

1) couple of years on here, some on some other sites
2) Town probably. too much pressure as scum.

Not answering these questions isn't a scumtell in my experience. scum are more likely to answer them to try and conform.

[Cheery Dog]

VOTE: Cheery Dog

Because I keep wanting to call him cherry, and that makes me want a Shirley temple.

There are other things you could be doing, like maybe not keeping the game in rvs.

[Thesp]

I look forward for your return so you can explain why you would start the game with something useless like asking questions and why you chose that since you don't normally start games when you are the IC like that.

Right after you posted that, you posted this:

Damn I missed your last newbie game where you did that. I stil want to know why you start games like that. I don't understand the point

In fact, you likely discovered this when you looked at my last newbie game, where you saw this post:

Hello, everyone! I'm you're friendly IC for this game. I'm happy to answer any question you may have about the mechanics of the game, or anything else that might come up.

The beginning of the game can be a bit haphazard. After all, there's no information other than your own role PMs at the moment. Frequently, people will begin with early rounds of arbitrary voting, commonly referred to as the Random Voting Stage. However, I think that's a waste of time. We can go ahead and start posting useful content right out of the gate. After all, one of the best ways to get information from people is by asking them questions. (This will be even more useful in the game as it goes on. If you think there's not enough information on someone, usually the

best

way to get that information will be by being proactive and asking for that information yourself.)

So, I'd like to start this game out with a question to each of you. Generally when I do these, I try to ask a question that I think will be more uncomfortable for scum to answer, or that I think may color their play, or tell me more about how they are likely to play. There can be reasonable skepticism over its overall usefulness, but I do think it is significantly better than arbitrary votes, and it helps me get started.

I'd like every player to answer these two questions:
How often have you played Mafia (or it's alternately-themed version Werewolf) before?
What do you think is the best way for a player to help the town?

Thanks!

Ostensibly,

this post, which you presumably read, holds exactly the answers you're inquiring about.

You then complain about activity instead of doing something meaningful about it, instead deciding that asking me a question you presumably know the answer to will substitute for activity. You could be working to get us out of Random Voting Stage, but you're not. Why not answer trivially easy questions?

VOTE: Jake from State Farm

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Cheery Dog, why give bogus answers when it would be trivially easy to give real ones?

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SomeRandomBoy

,

TheGottemer

, and

Jake from State Farm

, I'd love to get answers to my questions in my first post, or good reasons why you won't. "They're pointless" isn't a good reason, particularly because it's demonstrably untrue: it serves a purpose for me in getting to know you better. If you think that's not a worthwhile goal, I'd like to know.

[Jake from State Farm]

the funny thing is i didn't actually even read that entire post, I was skimming on my phone but that's irrelevant because reading it now still doesn't answer my question.

why do you choose to start a game with something useless like asking questions.

see first you say this

We can go ahead and start posting useful content right out of the gate

but then you want people to answer questions that have no relevance to the game. Scum have no motivation to lie, neither does town. The only thing it does do is prevent people from posting game related content and instead answer stupid questions. RVS like it or not IS part of the game and it's more useful than your questions.

Seeing how people vote and react to votes even for stupid random reasons do help find scum. I have actually seen a game where scum got suspicion drawn to him because of his rvs and he ultimately was lynched.


You as an IC are doing newbies a disservice imo by teaching them to not RVS.

and no I am not going to answer your questions. You don't like my first reason? here's a better one. Because FUCK YOU that's why

[Jake from State Farm]

"They're pointless" isn't a good reason, particularly because it's demonstrably untrue: it serves a purpose for me in getting to know you better. If you think that's not a worthwhile goal, I'd like to know.

and while we are at it


Prove to me these dumb ass questions are useful. I mean they worked so well for you in Newbie 1498 didn't they? Oh wait a perfect scum win where you helped lead the lynch on the bulletproof and your backup lynch was on yet another townie...

yeah it's about as useful and throwing darts at a dartboard.

also this isn't kindergarten, you want to "get to know me"? Here ya go - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=38128

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Cheery Dog

Because I keep wanting to call him cherry, and that makes me want a Shirley temple.

There are other things you could be doing, like maybe not keeping the game in rvs.

Name 3.

And this seems to be working more than anything else I could be saying, so I'll keep on keepin' on.

[Cheery Dog]

Cheery Dog, why give bogus answers when it would be trivially easy to give real ones?

Because the bogus answers will give you the same amount of usable information, and they're much funner.

[Boonskiies]

Cheery Dog, why give bogus answers when it would be trivially easy to give real ones?

Because the bogus answers will give you the same amount of usable information, and they're much funner.

Similar thing to what I'm doing, so quit complaining. And maybe my RVS will stop now, as I have stopped on one I'm comfortable with.

[Cheery Dog]

And this seems to be working more than anything else I could be saying, so I'll keep on keepin' on.

So you've figured out actual alignments of people then?

P-edit you've apparently decided I'm scum, I'd like to hear how you're capable of figuring that suggestion out.