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Post Post #32175 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:45 am

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If cait is hanging way back and not doing damage, either their frontline is hanging out of the fight in which case it's a stomp/not a fight, or they're busy with your frontline. If they're busy and you walk up a little and start dealing damage, how likely are they to stop and go for you? I doubt that's all too likely.

For most other adcs, the distance you have to move up when hanging back so far is a large tradeoff. For cait it kindof isn't.
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Post Post #32176 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:02 am

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I didn't realize those gapclosers were so ginormous, though. They certainly don't feel that monstrous in-game for whatever reason.
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Post Post #32177 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:28 am

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In post 32176, Iecerint wrote:I didn't realize those gapclosers were so ginormous, though. They certainly don't feel that monstrous in-game for whatever reason.
Since spells are from center of model and AAs are from range, they're a little shorter in-range than the numbers indicate, but yeah, gap closers are huge.
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Post Post #32178 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:30 am

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In post 32175, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:If cait is hanging way back and not doing damage, either their frontline is hanging out of the fight in which case it's a stomp/not a fight, or they're busy with your frontline. If they're busy and you walk up a little and start dealing damage, how likely are they to stop and go for you? I doubt that's all too likely.
If the j4/irelia/vi/w/e is competent?

They aren't blowing their gap closer until either the ADC or APC is in range unless you absolutely force them to somehow, and that usually requires a catch.
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Post Post #32179 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:31 am

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In the mid game, the ADC still has a chance b/c the j4 or w/e isn't gonna be tanky enough to soak up damage forever, but once the j4/vi/w/e has a few tank items, it's over.

ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights. If it weren't for turret pushing and how potent ADCs are in 2v2 lanes, you wouldn't need ADCs on every team comp.
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Post Post #32180 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:39 am

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In post 32179, BROseidon wrote: ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights.

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Post Post #32181 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:53 am

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Post Post #32182 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:26 pm

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In post 32181, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Don't be mean to people.

Yes I'll just let idiocy run rampant.

You're right i'd rather people spout out stupid shit over and over.

If you think I'm being mean you have literally no fucking idea.

Don't get on some moral high ground here bud.

Don't be a smart person saying stupid shit for everyone's sake.
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Post Post #32183 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:30 pm

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Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.

Edit: Point is, LoL is a fun game. There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
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Post Post #32184 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:41 pm

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The perspective that ADCs needed a team fight buff before 4.10 was actually pretty widespread and contributed to the AD/Randuin itemization changes.
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Post Post #32185 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:44 pm

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In post 32183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.

Edit:
Point is, LoL is a fun game.
There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
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Post Post #32186 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:46 pm

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In post 32180, pickemgenius wrote:
In post 32179, BROseidon wrote: ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights.

please never talk in this thread again.
It's funny b/c it's fairly obvious that I'm a better player than you who knows more about the game than you by a substantial margin.
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Post Post #32187 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:49 pm

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In post 32184, Iecerint wrote:The perspective that ADCs needed a team fight buff before 4.10 was actually pretty widespread and contributed to the AD/Randuin itemization changes.
This.

LiftLift has been complaining about how little ADCs can do in team fights for like over a year. I think it was before season 3 that Riot basically said to ADCs "you no longer get to 2-shot tanks in team fights."
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Post Post #32188 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:04 pm

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In post 32185, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 32183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.

Edit:
Point is, LoL is a fun game.
There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
The bolded is at contest here. :P
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Post Post #32189 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:16 pm

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In post 32188, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 32185, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 32183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.

Edit:
Point is, LoL is a fun game.
There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
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Post Post #32190 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:24 pm

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OK, so I threw every game on my placement matches by playing Zilean Support trying to get into low bronze so I can experience the climb and play with my other Bronze5 friends

Manage to go 4-6 by not doing anything

Got placed into S4.

Now I wished I actually tried.
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Post Post #32191 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:35 pm

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If it's your first time doing placements, you really should try your best.

I mean, you should probably try your best in general. It takes active throwing to reach bronze.
don't you feel silly now?
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Post Post #32192 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:24 pm

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5 rod of ages was suggested for Brand on ARAM. Just tried it on Swain. Most awesome build ever. XD FOREVERRAVEN
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Post Post #32193 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:30 pm

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Toxicity corresponds with size of premades.

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Post Post #32194 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:05 pm

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What the hell saki.

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Post Post #32195 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:31 pm

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In post 32180, pickemgenius wrote:
In post 32179, BROseidon wrote: ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights.

please never talk in this thread again.
or something like that....
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Post Post #32196 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:40 pm

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Hey Zeph, you can talk when you hit plat.
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Post Post #32197 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:01 pm

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In post 32195, MrZepher wrote:
In post 32180, pickemgenius wrote:
In post 32179, BROseidon wrote: ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights.

please never talk in this thread again.
Reported.

Is this the way to LoL thread now?
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Post Post #32198 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:05 pm

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In post 32197, Flameaxe wrote:
In post 32195, MrZepher wrote:
In post 32180, pickemgenius wrote:
In post 32179, BROseidon wrote: ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights.

please never talk in this thread again.
Reported.

Is this the way to LoL thread now?
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Post Post #32199 (ISO) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:11 pm

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