Open 560: Tit for Tat (Game Over, 4/12 alive)

[T S O]

agreed.

[Krystal Bald]

Elmo and Maru, I guess, but that's POE, not scumreads.

nothing wrong with POE

i have to reread maru's iso once i finish catching up.

[Justin Playfair]

she's still not scum though.

-mantis

I'd sure like it if someone gave me some reason, any reason, just why this is.

[Krystal Bald]

she's still not scum though.

-mantis

I'd sure like it if someone gave me some reason, any reason, just why this is.

k, let me finish catching up.

but i just don't think she is. her reaction test with tammy at the beginning, feeling bad on her part looked genuine to me. and the vote hopping doesn't bother me at all. i'm not pleased that she's voting us right now. but i think it's probably fair, since i said to her that we should work together, then dropped out. but, i probably mostly like her earlier suspicion on N_M (not sure where she is now with him)... but he screams scum to me.

[Krystal Bald]

Hmm, I quite like Maruchan's catchup post and don't think that we should lynch him today.

I doubt Krystal Bald and Mala are both scum. I think KB is more likely due to the timing of their vote and then unvote on xdfa.

VOTE: Krystal Bald

It's mala and insanity and <?>.
That is all.

insanity, why do you quite like his catchup?

[Krystal Bald]

also, insanity - what are your thoughts on justin?
also, what happened to your elmo scum read? >.>

[Justin Playfair]

feeling bad on her part looked genuine to me.

This proves she is a decent human being. It doesn't really say anything about her alignment in this game.

[Krystal Bald]

your vote seems very opportunistic. and i was thinking you were town last night.... >:I

@insanity

[Krystal Bald]

feeling bad on her part looked genuine to me.

This proves she is a decent human being. It doesn't really say anything about her alignment in this game.

fine. but her posting in general seems genuine to me. i really dislike the votes on her. though, i do think jules is town. i wasn't sure at first, but the posting seems solid. i like what they had to say about xdfagent. i agree in that regard (even though nik still thinks he's prob scum)

[Krystal Bald]

justin, what do you think of N_M? (sry if you've said and i've missed it)

[Krystal Bald]

Justin, the vig should NOT out their target because if they choose a townie then the scum will leave the vig alone. If they claim scum then they will shoot the vig. Plus, the jail keeper may or may not protect/block the vig tonight.

^

[Justin Playfair]

justin, what do you think of N_M? (sry if you've said and i've missed it)

I've become increasingly less comfortable with Not_Mafia as the game has progressed.

We just finished a pair of games together. Not_Mafia was scum in one and town in the other. As far as I can tell he has the same tendency to answer for others in both. He was a more aggressive scum hunter as scum than town, though to be fair he was a late game replacement in the game where he was town. My initial feeling about him was that he was town.

That started to turn with this post, which seemed just a tad opportunistic.

This is basically saying "I am town so it wasn't an Amished tell". How is saying someone had only one content post not a criticism of their play?

And this sent up some real red flags.

Moonlight is probably town, it was a bad reaction test I can see why he thought it might work. In regards to Maru and Krystal, lynch one and have agent vig the other, if somehow neither if them are scum I'll be looking at Mala tomorrow

I especially dislike the part about how if neither you or Maru are scum Not_Mafia will look at Mala tomorrow.

At this point I see Not_Mafia as probable scum.

[Krystal Bald]

iso'ed maru.. ish.

i don't like his votes. also, doesn't seem to have a lot of other reads either. for example, just a vote on mala, then a vote on us... and some banter about xd and the vig thing. what about all the other players, maru?

(oh wait, there was a town read on justin in there for ~reasons, and a no read on insanity). still not very much.


for town i like
mala, tso, jules <-- strongest town reads

probably town
moonlight, riddle*, xdagent (nik was saying that xd will be sorted tonight anyway)

*- i thought he was town at the beginning, but not really liking the lack of posts recently, so my town read is slipping

not certain yet
justin, riddle (let's put riddle in here actually)

even more not certain
maru

scummy
N_M, elmo and insanity now. i really dislike her timing and placing of her current vote. and all of a sudden she drops her elmo scum read.

[Krystal Bald]

-mantishead

[Krystal Bald]

At this point I see Not_Mafia as probable scum.

i honestly think he should be today's vote. and i'm surprised not more people are voting him.. or have even placed a vote on him as the game proceeded

[Krystal Bald]

also ya, the looking at mala tomorrow seems indecisive.. or like, trying to keep his options open

[Maruchan]

Vote Count 1.10

Elmo TeH AzN (0) =
insanity018 (4) = Moonlight TSO Julatorium KrystalBald
Julatorium (1) = ElmoTeHAzN
Justin Playfair (0) =
Krystal Bald (5) = Not_Mafia Malakittens insanity018 xfdagentx42 Maruchan
Malakittens (1) = JustinPlayfair
Maruchan (1) = Riddleton
Moonlight (0) =
Not_Mafia (0) =
Riddleton (0) =
T S O (0) =
xfdagentx42 (0) =

Not voting =

V/LA: Elmo TeH AzN through Sat 7/5

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-05 01:30:00)

the two conflicting wagons without a clear lynch this late into day one makes me think we've caught a scum somewhere in the wagons. This points to a Krystal Scum. (Y) good catch guys

[Krystal Bald]

justin is moving up in town list. i think justin, it was your case on mala that i didn't like..

this post
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5977332

[T S O]

why is insanity clear

[Krystal Bald]

Vote Count 1.10

Elmo TeH AzN (0) =
insanity018 (4) = Moonlight TSO Julatorium KrystalBald
Julatorium (1) = ElmoTeHAzN
Justin Playfair (0) =
Krystal Bald (5) = Not_Mafia Malakittens insanity018 xfdagentx42 Maruchan
Malakittens (1) = JustinPlayfair
Maruchan (1) = Riddleton
Moonlight (0) =
Not_Mafia (0) =
Riddleton (0) =
T S O (0) =
xfdagentx42 (0) =

Not voting =

V/LA: Elmo TeH AzN through Sat 7/5

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-05 01:30:00)

the two conflicting wagons without a clear lynch this late into day one makes me think we've caught a scum somewhere in the wagons. This points to a Krystal Scum. (Y) good catch guys

pphhhh! lol

[Krystal Bald]

maruchan, what do you think of N_M?

[Maruchan]

iso'ed maru.. ish.

i don't like his votes. also, doesn't seem to have a lot of other reads either. for example, just a vote on mala, then a vote on us... and some banter about xd and the vig thing. what about all the other players, maru?

(oh wait, there was a town read on justin in there for ~reasons, and a no read on insanity). still not very much.


for town i like
mala, tso, jules <-- strongest town reads

probably town
moonlight, riddle*, xdagent (nik was saying that xd will be sorted tonight anyway)

*- i thought he was town at the beginning, but not really liking the lack of posts recently, so my town read is slipping

not certain yet
justin, riddle (let's put riddle in here actually)

even more not certain
maru

scummy
N_M, elmo and insanity now. i really dislike her timing and placing of her current vote. and all of a sudden she drops her elmo scum read.

You literally can't read. I have, three times now, posted my reads on every player in the game.

Krystal Scum just got uber-confirmed status.

[Maruchan]

why is insanity clear

They aren't, Krystal is just confirmed scum, so insanity's wagon is the distraction wagon in this situation.

[Krystal Bald]

iso'ed maru.. ish.

i don't like his votes. also, doesn't seem to have a lot of other reads either. for example, just a vote on mala, then a vote on us... and some banter about xd and the vig thing. what about all the other players, maru?

(oh wait, there was a town read on justin in there for ~reasons, and a no read on insanity). still not very much.


for town i like
mala, tso, jules <-- strongest town reads

probably town
moonlight, riddle*, xdagent (nik was saying that xd will be sorted tonight anyway)

*- i thought he was town at the beginning, but not really liking the lack of posts recently, so my town read is slipping

not certain yet
justin, riddle (let's put riddle in here actually)

even more not certain
maru

scummy
N_M, elmo and insanity now. i really dislike her timing and placing of her current vote. and all of a sudden she drops her elmo scum read.

You literally can't read. I have, three times now, posted my reads on every player in the game.

Krystal Scum just got uber-confirmed status.

i missed your spoiler here
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5986310

[Krystal Bald]

i will now painstakingly read through this wall of stream