Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

SKOT can you rephrase? Your post makes no sense.

I cannot really rephrase without crossing lines. Your play here is different.

[Antihero]

i hear that if you talk about ongoing games, zoraster jumps out of your closet and kicks you in the nuts

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

i hear that if you talk about ongoing games, zoraster jumps out of your closet and kicks you in the nuts

pretty much

[Jordan_Downey]

i hear that if you talk about ongoing games, zoraster jumps out of your closet and kicks you in the nuts

What if you don't have a closet?

Also, the wording was off, but I don't see any really difficulty in figuring out what SKOT was saying Titus.

This whole discussion about survival/evasion is about bs theory and I'm not sure I see the relevance to the game. I don't like the self vote give up I don't think town should ever self vote it cuts off information to town, but at the end of the day it's not directly an alignment tell. I feel combined with the lack of willingness to provide information or participate because he's "trying not to get lynched" is BS and scum motivation. I don't see a struggle to avoid a lynch. I don't see an attempt to build another wagon. I see a lot of whining and complaining. Maybe that's town ZZZX, if so I wish that was lynched out of him by now.

[Spring Starflower]

i only check this thread cause i live in Theme Park.

[Xayzeck]

posting because it's page 100

[Xayzeck]

You, for some reason, have to keep Thor as a scumread. He was highlighting the same stuff you did about ZZZX but all of a sudden you're FoSing him meaning you feel that Thor's case isn't valid. What the fuck?

ARGH

fuckin, read 2382. I quoted it in 2422, AND LO AND BEHOLD THAT IS ME ACKNOWLEDGING HIS ZZZX CASE IS INDEED HIM PUSHING STUFF.

The whole problem I have with him is that he's done a lot MORE of "you, push your scumreads" than pushing his own. Much like a supervisor rather than a worker, and I was expecting townThor to be uberactive and hands-on with his scumhunting, not a puppeteer for most of the game.

Of course I HAVE to keep him as scumread, I'm not just going magically pop him up to a townread because the all great and tiny Titus says so.

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Light

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (0):
ZZZX (5): Thor665, Spring Starflower, Jordan_Downey, Shiny Hydreigon, Titus
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (6): TiphaineDeath, Nero Cain, ZZZX, The Necromancers, Dry-fit, Eddie Fenix
Eddie Fenix (1): Malakittens
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (3): Saki, Doublade, Xayzeck
Malakittens (0):
Perpetual Nonsense (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Thor665 (0):
Jon_h61 (0):
Xayzeck (0):
The Necromancers (1): Jon_h61
Titus (3): Sharpest-knife-on-tree, PeregrineV, Perpetual Nonsense
Jordan_Downey (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (1): RachMarie

It is day 2. With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day ends on Monday, July 7 at 9:45pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-07-07 21:45:00).

Doublade is V/LA until Friday, July 4.
Shiny Hydreigon is V/LA until Wednesday, July 9.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

This slot's utility took a nosedive once we replaced in. Sorry.

VOTE: Spring

Gaiden hasn't received my messages yet, so I assume he is V/LA.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

We are content to go into overtime (Night 1) and come back with a fresh mind tomorrow.

This still stands.

[Titus]

@Xay, well you moved the gialpost. No problem though. It's still shitty. Thor has done a hell of a lot of pushing.

@PN, what does that even mean?

[Thor665]

Eddie Fenix (1): Malakittens
Dry-fit (3): Saki, Doublade, Xayzeck
The Necromancers (1): Jon_h61
Titus (3): Sharpest-knife-on-tree, PeregrineV, Perpetual Nonsense
Not Voting (1): RachMarie

The people with these votes need to reevaluate their place in the universe. Is your vote 'doing something'?
I, personally, don't think they are.
It is two days till deadline.
Y'know...pick it up, poozers.


@Necromancer - I have been *highly* underwhelmed by the 'reach out' tell as about one of the dumbest things ever done on mafiascum, I don't know where it started or why, but it is silly and poorly defined as a tell. That all said - WHEN YOU START DISCUSSING IT IN OTHERS IN RELATION TO YOUR SLOT AND DON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE BEEN DESPERATELY ATTEMPTING TO ENGAGE YOU IN CONVERSATION WHILE YOU ARE JUST DERPING ALONG AND GIVING ME NEXT TO NOTHING, IT ANNOYS ME!

Just saying.
Get Mastin back in here, maybe he's reading enough to have an opinion to matter in that hydra - you are dead weight on it.

[EddieFenix]

So Thor is throwing down the mighty hammer to Necro, Titus and SKOT are talking about Survival/Evasion, Spring is still clinging to their "conf town" defense, and we're getting closer to deadline each day. Haven't really missed much. Let's get these 2 wagons that have the highest votes rolling somewhere!

[Titus]

@Thor, I feel Antihero is actually the better head. Mastina confbiases everything. A reachout usn't really a tell but it's used as a method of listening imo. Both factions can do it. You wouldn't call it a reachout but they exist in almost everygame.

@EddieFenix, Now that you got your IIoA out of the way, care to scumhunt or are you content just sitting on a fence?

[Thor665]

@Thor, I feel Antihero is actually the better head. Mastina confbiases everything. A reachout usn't really a tell but it's used as a method of listening imo. Both factions can do it. You wouldn't call it a reachout but they exist in almost everygame.

That's the point, the entire reachout tell is "hey, one player is trying to talk to another player" it is possibly the dumbest tell in existence.

I am finding Mastin the far more functional head - he is at least aware hat he and I are talking. Mastin and I shared a few back and forths and had some not unsubstantive interactions about reads. Antihero is apparently totally unaware that was happening (shockingly bad play/communication) or decided that a massive interaction reach out like that wasn't worth mentioning, whilst two far less impressive ones were (which is just really weird, and possibly also bad play).

Hint: I don't find Mastin suspecting you to equate to Mastin being bad. Hell, *I* suspect you too, just not to remotely the same level. You are a pretty easy slot to suspect right now because you feel so generically tepid.

Mostly all I really care about at this segment though, is getting the lackwits sitting on vanity wagons to get in gear. The Dry Fit wagon is currently laughable, and I don't even town read Dry Fit, but that wagon is dead and populated by lurksacks. The wagon on you is actually not much better (and I scumread you) but at least Pere seems to give a hang, and Sharpest might. Perpetual is just a big wet sea lion honk though. Jon's vote is a joke and he should replace out for being bad (not as bad as Saki...but, then, Mastin thinks Saki is amazingly functional for reasons that continue to elude me). Rach is having health issues, which is certainly not optimal, but neither is her current lack of a vote. She should at least be able to sheep a town read...presuming she has one (?). Mala is a total derpsack with the current vote and should probably have moved days ago. I will even admit to becoming less and less thrilled by Eddie, but I still have him on the town side of terrible, and that's not something I'm willing to give up yet in this current gamestate. She should pick anyne else with a vote on them and move in order to even pretend to be helpful at this stage.

We should already have forced a claim by this point, people.
Just saying.

[Titus]

I don't think anyone is talking with Mastin. He's just yelling the same shit over and over again.

Also, where the fuck are you getting I am tepid ("lukewarm or unenthusiastic")? That's not true of me regardless of alignment. Rage on town ignoring ibvscum Doublade. Pissed off when people make false cases.

I do agree with what has to hapoen. People should have to make a major case if there's at least one other person on the wagon. If it doean't take off by 1 day remaining, move or clsim scum. If you are by yourself, move or claim scum

[Thor665]

I feel your attitude is tepid. You are extroverting emotions, but I do not believe they are reflected by your in-game acts.

When I have rage that people are ignoring scum - I am constantly talkign about the scum (and voting them) you are doing neither with Doublade.
I have discussed the issue with Xay - I still stand by the opinion that your defense felt weird. Also, if bad cases were all going to be attacked, you should not have time for anything else.
You also are focusing oddly on a weird slap fight with Mastin, complaining that they aren't listening, when, frankly, neither of you appear to be talking with each other - you are both talking at each other. I find it equally poor on both fronts, but don't get any more drive from you in that than I do from Mastin.

You also just sort of drifted onto the ZZZX vote. I am happy to have the support there, I will admit, but it's not like I feel you are excited by this wagon, it feels more like you're simply on it.

[The Necromancers]

thor, what do you want to talk with me about that you're not talking with mastin about?

[The Necromancers]

what exactly are you so butthurt over? me calling you scum? (because mastin's increasingly suspicious of you too)

or me maybe changing my mind on the titus slot...?
there's nothing happening on the jon front... but that's hardly my fault.

[Saki]

this is me declaring that I may or may not hammer the first wagon to get to l-1

[Thor665]

thor, what do you want to talk with me about that you're not talking with mastin about?

Well...considering my presented issue was "you didn't even note that I was having a reach out conversation when you were discussing reach out conversations" how about we start with 'why did you not bring that up, at that time?' as something to talk about?

I don't split heads in a hydra, for the record. If I'm talking to Mastin, I'm talking to you, and vice-versa. You're one slot, you made that choice. Are you following the game?

[Thor665]

this is me declaring that I may or may not hammer the first wagon to get to l-1

This is me declaring you scum. What of it?

[The Necromancers]

Well...considering my presented issue was "you didn't even note that I was having a reach out conversation when you were discussing reach out conversations" how about we start with 'why did you not bring that up, at that time?' as something to talk about?

do what now...?

i have no idea what you're talking about. why would i note what "reach out" conversations you're having?

[The Necromancers]

...i don't even know where i was "discussing reach out conversations".

[Titus]

I feel your attitude is tepid. You are extroverting emotions, but I do not believe they are reflected by your in-game acts.

When I have rage that people are ignoring scum - I am constantly talkign about the scum (and voting them) you are doing neither with Doublade.
I have discussed the issue with Xay - I still stand by the opinion that your defense felt weird. Also, if bad cases were all going to be attacked, you should not have time for anything else.
You also are focusing oddly on a weird slap fight with Mastin, complaining that they aren't listening, when, frankly, neither of you appear to be talking with each other - you are both talking at each other. I find it equally poor on both fronts, but don't get any more drive from you in that than I do from Mastin.

You also just sort of drifted onto the ZZZX vote. I am happy to have the support there, I will admit, but it's not like I feel you are excited by this wagon, it feels more like you're simply on it.

I did vote Doublade. I'm still saying Doublade is scum. However, I wasn't going to get a Doublade lynch. You yourself have said that players need to be closing the wagons. I took the initiative to do that. I am talking about Doublade but I feel like I might as well be talking to a brick wall. I put a case. People say it sucks. No reason why. I ask people defending Doublade, like Mastin, to say why Doublade is town or produce any content. I get nothing. So yeah, at some point I have to move over to get a lynch at all. Am I happy about it? Hell no.

I am trying to talk to Mastin. I'm using pretty much the same tone with both Mastin and Antihero but only Antihero seems to be responding. Mastin just says LOL! Nope Scum. That's not a conversation. That's a tape recorded message on loop.

The criticism on the ZZZX wagon is valid. It's not my favorite. I'd rather be voting for Doublade or Xay. Yet, those aren't going anywhere and we need a lynch. If a Doublade or Xay wagon sprung up fast, I'd be all over those.