Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[TiphaineDeath]

Agree with thor, we are close enough to deadline people need to get on one of the two leading wagons.

[ZZZX]

I feel your attitude is tepid. You are extroverting emotions, but I do not believe they are reflected by your in-game acts.

When I have rage that people are ignoring scum - I am constantly talkign about the scum (and voting them) you are doing neither with Doublade.
I have discussed the issue with Xay - I still stand by the opinion that your defense felt weird. Also, if bad cases were all going to be attacked, you should not have time for anything else.
You also are focusing oddly on a weird slap fight with Mastin, complaining that they aren't listening, when, frankly, neither of you appear to be talking with each other - you are both talking at each other. I find it equally poor on both fronts, but don't get any more drive from you in that than I do from Mastin.

You also just sort of drifted onto the ZZZX vote. I am happy to have the support there, I will admit, but it's not like I feel you are excited by this wagon, it feels more like you're simply on it.

I did vote Doublade. I'm still saying Doublade is scum. However, I wasn't going to get a Doublade lynch. You yourself have said that players need to be closing the wagons. I took the initiative to do that. I am talking about Doublade but I feel like I might as well be talking to a brick wall. I put a case. People say it sucks. No reason why. I ask people defending Doublade, like Mastin, to say why Doublade is town or produce any content. I get nothing. So yeah, at some point I have to move over to get a lynch at all. Am I happy about it? Hell no.

I am trying to talk to Mastin. I'm using pretty much the same tone with both Mastin and Antihero but only Antihero seems to be responding. Mastin just says LOL! Nope Scum. That's not a conversation. That's a tape recorded message on loop.

The criticism on the ZZZX wagon is valid. It's not my favorite. I'd rather be voting for Doublade or Xay. Yet, those aren't going anywhere and we need a lynch. If a Doublade or Xay wagon sprung up fast, I'd be all over those.

Well can I ask you a question my friend?


How the fuck is the case on me valid if I explained and proved that it is invalid?

General things scum do case become invalid if proven that town-same person in the same time. Did the same thing. It becomes more of a null-read

Now say it in my face. You think that me not giving a readlist while doing the same in a town game in the same period is a scum-tell

SAY IT.

[ZZZX]

I have been giving alot of effort to protect my self. SS is using a defence of "Im OBV TOWN CLEAR IC HUR DUR" And yet you guys go @ me for not giving a list (which I did but it wasnt complete?) and ... I did the same in my completed town games? Am I wrong? This is clearly scum lead.

[Dry-fit]

this is me declaring that I may or may not hammer the first wagon to get to l-1

This is just awful and another reason why you're scum. If your town you should want to have some effect on the direction the lynch goes in. If you don't, you just increase the ability of scum to dictate the formation of lynches, since they will make up a greater percentage of the players making a difference. Plus you're avoiding any responsibility for anything here. Unortunately you're not getting lynched today but if you're town you need to make a meaning vote today. Mastin you need to reevaluate this read.

Dry, what has mala done that is scummy?

She ignored my question to her about Saki in post 1934. She did the weird thing where she asked what purpose a wagon on her would have. Somehow though Tiphaine might be scum but then makes a useless post saying he "might actually be town." And now places a terrible vote on Eddie.

[Thor665]

...i don't even know where i was "discussing reach out conversations".

everyone else is pending/reserve judgement/whatever; the jon reachout is Smurfing the bed, but the titus one might go better, we'll see

[Malakittens]

Or Eddie smells like scum from things he has said.

I'm pretty VLA and I made this clear to all mods before I replaced into some games.

Since I don't know how long until my next posts I'm going to:

VOTE: Spring

it's been stated in posts that i dislike MS posts. Sakura has posted nothing super specatale and it doesnt feel like town-MS.

Also DryFit -- I missed your question to be brutally fair. I'll go back and ISO you after this post.

[Malakittens]

hmmm, tip might be town afterall

TD has been town all game. What have you been reading?

I admit I have a difficult time seeing ZZX's readslist stuff coming from town.

Every ime I read one of jon's posts it makes me angry and makes me want to lynch him.

TD's earlier posts I didn't like mainly in Day 1. As day progressed he has substantially started to get better.

(Also you never did ask anything about Saki...)

[The Necromancers]

...i don't even know where i was "discussing reach out conversations".

everyone else is pending/reserve judgement/whatever; the jon reachout is Smurfing the bed, but the titus one might go better, we'll see

ok
there's a fundamental disconnect with me here because i don't know why it follows from the second quote that i need to talk about you OR how that relates to my reads on jon and titus OR why my read on you should be more important than reads on jon and titus.

you want to treat me like i'm a stupid sack of shit?

fine.

i'm a stupid sack of shit.

now walk me through what your gripe is.
mastin's already talked the zzzx read to death with you and i agree with mastin. and if you want to gripe at not running someone up to a claim *points at the votecount* our wagon is bigger.

i know metalsonic isn't the VI he's cosplaying here. townmetalsonic is intelligent and scumhunts and tries to figure stuff out. that's not what's happening here.

[Titus]

ZZZX, I think you are not using the word valid correctly. A valid case is one that if it the premises are true then the conclusion is true. Thor's argument is valid.

If you lied about having reads, you are probably scum.

I don't think anyone debates that theory.

The debate comes from arguing whether or not you were lying. The evidence of you possibly doing something in a town game is relevant but not determinative in determining soundness.

Soundness is up for debate. I am sympathetic bc of what happened to me at the earlier point but I am not a fan of your reactions.

[Doublade]

I have been giving alot of effort to protect my self. SS is using a defence of "Im OBV TOWN CLEAR IC HUR DUR" And yet you guys go @ me for not giving a list (which I did but it wasnt complete?) and ... I did the same in my completed town games? Am I wrong? This is clearly scum lead.

ZZZX is still survivalist and disgusting. Lynch him.

Like, you know how back in elementary school, your teachers would tell you to "show, not tell" in your writing?? Do that instead, please. I would vote him, but I'm already voting him.

[caled]

[Spring Starflower]

it's been stated in posts that i dislike MS posts. Sakura has posted nothing super specatale and it doesnt feel like town-MS.

sakura has posting nothing.

mala is scum

[Spring Starflower]

i know metalsonic isn't the VI he's cosplaying here. townmetalsonic is intelligent and scumhunts and tries to figure stuff out. that's not what's happening here.

gee thanks

but scumetalsonic is also intelligent so

all you need to do is to trust i am conftown and just look at another wagon instead.

[Spring Starflower]

scum are zzzx and mala and jon just lynch this 3

the rest of the scum are open

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Light

Vote Count

Shiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (0):
ZZZX (5): Thor665, Spring Starflower, Jordan_Downey, Shiny Hydreigon, Titus
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (8): TiphaineDeath, Nero Cain, ZZZX, The Necromancers, Dry-fit, Eddie Fenix, Perpetual Nonsense, Malakittens
Eddie Fenix (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (3): Saki, Doublade, Xayzeck
Malakittens (0):
Perpetual Nonsense (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Thor665 (0):
Jon_h61 (0):
Xayzeck (0):
The Necromancers (1): Jon_h61
Titus (2): Sharpest-knife-on-tree, PeregrineV
Jordan_Downey (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (1): RachMarie

It is day 2. With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day ends on Monday, July 7 at 9:45pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-07-07 21:45:00).

PeregrineV is V/LA until Tuesday, July 8.
Shiny Hydreigon is V/LA until Wednesday, July 9.
Malakittens is V/LA until Sunday, July 13.

[TiphaineDeath]

You keep saying that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Titus]

You keep saying that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Objection: Vague! Who is you? What is the word? Why do you think that person using that word doesn't know what it means?

[TiphaineDeath]

Spring, keeps saying conftown. I am quoting princess bride to show people exactly how silly he sounds.

[TiphaineDeath]

Also you are not phoenix wright ace attorney .

[Xayzeck]

scum are zzzx and mala and jon just lynch this 3

the rest of the scum are open

Mala how?

[Titus]

Also you are not phoenix wright ace attorney .

Nope. Phoenix doesn't give categories. He uses a different system as he's japanese. Character wise, I'm most like his mentor.

[Spring Starflower]

Spring Starflower is mod-confirmed as

Village Light Innocent Child!

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[TiphaineDeath]

Bulba, is he fucking with us or is this true?

[Nero Cain]

no way that shit is real dude, you know better than that. Adding you to my list of potential targets.

[TiphaineDeath]

He's been carrying on about it long enough it's probably not but why would I not want to check?

[Bulbazak]

Bump.