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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:51 am

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The Carbonyl Group


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In organic chemistry, a carbonyl group is a functional group composed of a carbon atom double-bonded to an oxygen atom: C=O. It is common to several classes of organic compounds, as part of many larger functional groups. The term carbonyl can also refer to carbon monoxide as a ligand in an inorganic or organometallic complex (a metal carbonyl, e.g. nickel carbonyl).

The slightly positive carbon atom in the carbonyl group can be attacked by nucleophiles (negatively charged ions, like the cyanide ion) or a negatively charged part of another molecule, like the pair "lone pair" of hydrogen atoms in the ammonia molecule. During the reaction, the carbon-oxygen double bond is broken, and the carbonyl group may experience addition reactions. This reaction is known as addition-elimination (because a water molecule is often lost) or condensation.

Oxygen is more electronegative than carbon, and thus draws electron density away from carbon to increase the bond's polarity. Therefore, the carbonyl carbon becomes electrophilic, and thus more reactive with nucleophiles. Also, the electronegative oxygen can react with an electrophile; for example a proton in an acidic solution or other Lewis acid forming an oxocarbenium ion.

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Lying Cat - 5 (Bulbazak, ZZZX, pirate mollie, Guilty Gunsmith, ac1983fan)
Marquis - 3 (beastcharizard, vezokpiraka, Speedy Saki)
pirate mollie - 1 (Wickedestjr)
Speedy Saki - 2 (Majiffy, Marquis)
ZZZX - 1 (Lying Cat)

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Wickedestjr is V/LA until July 16th.

7 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-21 16:24:48).
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:01 am

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@ETL- You're making me laugh today. You should know better than anyone that I like to make sthar8 do all the posting when we hydra. He's just the more charismatic of the two of us and we can usually stand around and discuss reads long enough that we have the same or a similar position. In this case, I've been told I can't vote Saki, but not why I can't vote Saki. I want to see your reasoning on charizard because you've been my strongest townread all game and I want to know your logic. There is nothing there to trap you, I promise.

PV is town if AC000015 is. There is no way that scum got the JK after I told the JK to target AC, targeted someone else, and didn't kill AC. That's why a cop inno on AC will clear PV. Still totally advocating a cop on AC000016.

I'm at L-1 right now, and in the interest of expediency, I'm just gonna go ahead and claim.

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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:01 am

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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:08 am

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Lying Cat wrote:You should know better than anyone that I like to make sthar8 do all the posting when we
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FTFY.

also. i hate you.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:10 am

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If you are town, who is the scum on your wagon?
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:14 am

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to prevent "oh lying cat claimed a power, let's vote the other wagon without trying to figure out if it's town or scum" (even though i am hesitantly calling their plays town from what i can remember trackwise)

i am ethyl acetate

this is a flavor claim; i am not claiming my power

but i have crumbed it a bit and this is why i got so worked up over titus' "aunt ethyl" thing and eventually townread her (before the majiffy "titus is clean" thing)

Spoiler: me not getting titus' aunt ethyl thing because she initially referred to me but wtf was going on, and then titus flipped with just flavor-"informed" things on ethyl and it was disappointing because i was counting on her to be informed townie or something, like "you know doduo/marquis is town"
Titus wrote:God damn it D.. I thought you were my aunt Ethyl but I think I am wrong here. :(

Doduo wrote:titus please post and follow up on that nice conversation we were about to have before my inactivity and the outage

Doduo wrote:
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Titus - ????????????????????????????????????????????????/whatsgoingonhere

Doduo wrote:and depending on the time of day and the positions of the stars you can stick titus in there somewhere (in other words i don't even know how i fucking feel about that slot at all. and there was some sort of early convo that needed to happen that didn't and i don't even know what titus was hinting at early on with the rolesearching-type comments)

Marquis wrote:players stuck in my head but i don't have a read on: titus

Marquis wrote:titus i need you to claim in your next post.

don't fail me now

Marquis wrote:who the fuck is aunt ethyl titus i've been trying to figure out what you're talking about or hinting at the whole game because it sure doesn't look like you mean you

Marquis wrote:titus, just tell me: are you informed role of some sort? as in the modifier "informed"?

Marquis wrote:are you an informed*

because that's the only scenario i can think of in which you would be fixated on an ethyl role like this.


Marquis wrote:titus oh my god

is ethyl scum?

is ethyl town?

do you not know at all??????

please stop to answer this honestly because i really don't get it anymore
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:15 am

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k whatever.

who is the scums.
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:17 am

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Titus wrote:God damn it D.. I thought you were my aunt Ethyl but I think I am wrong here. :(

in short i am not claiming i am confirmed town, but that i had thought titus was trying to confirm something like that based on her role and the ethyl role (me)

she only mentioned ethyl/alcohol in her role pm flavor.

my role pm flavor does not mention titus or phenol though unfortunately.

today has been generally disappointing as a result.
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:19 am

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yall are messing all my shit up. stop that.

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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:02 pm

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Haven't you been insinuating all game that 'jailkeep inventor might be scum lolol'?

Didn't AH say that the inventors may or may not be scum?

Do you expect that claiming a power role would give you a free pass?



Why didn't you 'sheep GG' onto the vote on you then? Only deciding to 'sheep them' on ZZZX? Selective 'sheeping'?

What a piss poor excuse to vote someone and get away with it?


Why didn't you bother claiming your targets? I has to look back Ito the thread to find who got the track. Don't you think it would be easier to fullclaim everything? Your rationale for picking GG twice?

Anyway, didn't Gg's track get conveniently roleblocked and failed night 1? Isn't that coincidental? Like I guess someone knew he has an invention tonight and scum said 'yay let's role block him'

Jingle makes barfingly horrible scum posts

I have never played with this user before, is this how he normally plays?
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:05 pm

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Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
cant decide between lc or marquis today. kinda wanna lynch lc because sthar, kinda wanna lynch marquis because vca.

jiffy what do

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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:07 pm

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I'm at work and don't have time for a big post
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:17 pm

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Saki, I'm going to refrain from calling you bad names. That post is very bad.

1) They aren't town for the PR claim. That would be stupid, and you are assuming that both Jingle and Sthar are stupid, or that the rest of us are stupid. They're town for other reasons - the flavor claim, them targeting us for the track invention makes A FUCKTON of sense, and they cannot be scum with Marquis, or why the fuck would they both claim on the same damn page when I know for a fact scum have daychat because it's fucking Antihero.

2) They have given us the tracker each time. We were blocked N1 but not N2. Your whole theory about "give them the track and then block them" is utterly ridiculous when we've been suspicious of LC all game and they knew that. There was a high probably of us tracking them. If this is true, why weren't we blocked last night?

3) LC actually doesn't make "barfingly horrible posts", you do. You have made this entire game a fucking circus.

Yeah Jiffy. I'm down.

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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:21 pm

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Lying Cat wrote:I'm at work and don't have time for a big post

Then make the other one post. There's two of you. No reason for fucking lurking unless you are scum.
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:22 pm

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Speedy Saki wrote:Your rationale for picking GG twice?

Because we're AP and ETL.
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:22 pm

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I can't vote him today. Sthar8 seemed pretty damned sure
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:26 pm

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Lying Cat wrote:I can't vote him today. Sthar8 seemed pretty damned sure

idgaf. Sthar also thinks Marquis is town, yeah? So....... if you're town, and Marquis is town, where are the scum not voting? Saki's been on the block all day but never had more than a couple votes. Why do you think that is?

Not to mention... MTD.

Tell sthar he doesn't get to decide anymore. He wants to sheep, then sheep this.
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:00 pm

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Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
Lying Cat wrote:I can't vote him today. Sthar8 seemed pretty damned sure

idgaf. Sthar also thinks Marquis is town, yeah? So....... if you're town, and Marquis is town, where are the scum not voting? Saki's been on the block all day but never had more than a couple votes. Why do you think that is?

Not to mention... MTD.

Tell sthar he doesn't get to decide anymore. He wants to sheep, then sheep this.


Jingle was the one 'sheeping' not sthar

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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:03 pm

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Look at what your hydra partner wrote before throwing shit on me lol

I think AP wrote this but ETL voted me is that right
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Lying Cat wrote:I have a mild townread on marquis.

= "marquis is my scum buddy."

Sthar8 assures me that you're somehow town, although he didn't have time to tell me why before leaving, so I'm willing to wait until tomorrow to hash that out with him. GG has been my strongest townread all game, and they're syncing on ZZZX, who I find null. Yeah, I'm willing to put my vote there over an inexplicable townread my V/LA partner seems pretty sure of.

= "Did I mention that sthar is V/LA? That's why he looks scummy. Don't blame me. I'm just jingley and I have no opinions. I'm not scummy." (Also maybe probably ZZZX is town then.. :mad: will think about this s'more.)

Mollie is my biggest scumread right now, but sthar8 has experience reading her and I was giving him time to see where he got there.

= "mollie is not my scumbuddy buut i'm trying to get people to think she is."

I'm also not going to be able to put forth the time or effort to get her lynched today. PV is not scum if ac000014 is town, which should be known tomorrow.

= "acfan is my scumbuddy. "

Jiffy was townish, and I'm in agreement with him on Saki, but I'm forbidden from trusting myself on that.

= "Jiffy and saki are not my scum buddies but I think Saki is mislynch fodder and I will buddy Jiffy until it happens."

Bulb is town if PV is, also something that should be solved tonight.

= "please waste your cop thing on someone i already know is town and not one of my buddies."

I'd like to hear the gunsmiths explain their reasoning more on Beast. I haven't seen anything particularly town from him, and Marquis is making a fairly solid point.

With that said, I'm totally satisfied on a vote on a null slot with as many town reads as I have.

= "i wont vote my scum buddy today."

There are 13 living players, meaning we have a couple of mislynches left to us, and a coplike role. I'm not really going to fight hard to get a specific lynch when this game is so PoEable.

lol....

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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:04 pm

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Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
Speedy Saki wrote:Your rationale for picking GG twice?

Because we're AP and ETL.



What happened to snork/ap or was snork just an ETL alt?

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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:14 pm

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AP is on vacation. It has been me for a few days.
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:15 pm

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Is snork a phantom?
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:16 pm

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I also really like that post of mine but them being the tracker inventor and giving it to us repeatedly cannot be ignored.

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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:16 pm

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Snork was an ETL alt.
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:16 pm

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ETL get back in your hydra you dirty dirty slipper.
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