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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:43 am

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startfromtheheart wrote:Here are my reads via random.org (don't ask how I got them):

Boonskiies - town
Aneninen - scum and PR
Misaka Network (Hydra of FakeGod and Gaiden) - VT
BroodKingEXE - PR
chaoslord54 - scum and PR
evilpacman18 - town
Jakuzure Nonon (Hydra of Caledfwitch and Feirei) - VT
Super Mario - town
don_johnson - PR
startfromtheheart - VT and town
Konowa - town
Chevre - scum - (VT aka goon)
reinoe - town


Í'm becoming superstitious and must now investigate into the truth of my clairvoyance. :cop:

yes, clap clap.

pick chaos and anen, then lynch. use my list as an inner reading/viewing screen, loves
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:43 am

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Bert wrote:
startfromtheheart wrote:Here are my reads via random.org (don't ask how I got them):

Boonskiies - town
Aneninen - scum and PR
Misaka Network (Hydra of FakeGod and Gaiden) - VT
BroodKingEXE - PR
chaoslord54 - scum and PR
evilpacman18 - town
Jakuzure Nonon (Hydra of Caledfwitch and Feirei) - VT
Super Mario - town
don_johnson - PR
startfromtheheart - VT and town
Konowa - town
Chevre - scum - (VT aka goon)
reinoe - town


Í'm becoming superstitious and must now investigate into the truth of my clairvoyance. :cop:

yes, clap clap.

pick chaos and anen, then lynch. use my list as an inner reading/viewing screen, loves
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:44 am

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Scum must be underpowered and miller, me, was added for negative utility, balance. I'm pretty bad at setup stuff so I don't know.
Chaos, don't claim results just yet, especially if you have any positive results.

I want to relook over the Chevre wagon again. I have to be missing something.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:11 am

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From my point of view.

BipolarChemist wrote:
Boonskiies (4):
Aneninen,
don_johnson
,
Misaka Network
, Konowa [L-3]
Super Mario
(2):
Jakuzure Nonon,
Reinoe

Chevre
(1):
startfromtheheart
Aneninen (1):
Super Mario

Reinoe
(1):
Boonskiies
Jakuzure Nonon (1):
chaoslord54
evilpacman13 (1):
Chevre


Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18


BipolarChemist wrote:

Boonskiies (4):
Aneninen,
don_johnson
,
Misaka Network
, Konowa [L-3]
Super Mario
(2):
Jakuzure Nonon,
Reinoe

Chevre
(1):
startfromtheheart
Aneninen (1):
Super Mario

Konowa (1):
Boonskiies
Jakuzure Nonon (1):
chaoslord54
evilpacman13 (1):
Chevre


Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18


Either Boon is scum or scum are on that wagon already

BipolarChemist wrote:
Chevre
(4):
Antihero,
Misaka Network, Guyett
, startfromtheheart [L-3]
reinoe (3):
Konowa,
Chevre
, Aneninen
Konowa (2):
Boonskiies,
Reinoe

Antihero (1):
chaoslord54
Boonskiies (1):
don_johnson


Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18


BipolarChemist wrote:

Chevre
(5):
Antihero,
Misaka Network, Guyett,
startfromtheheart, Boonskiies [L-2]
reinoe (3):
Konowa,
Chevre
, Aneninen
Konowa (1):
Reinoe

Antihero (1):
chaoslord54
Boonskiies (1):
don_johnson


Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18


BipolarChemist wrote:

Chevre
(5):
Antihero,
Misaka Network, Guyett
, startfromtheheart, Boonskiies [L-2]
reinoe
(3):
Konowa,
Chevre
, Aneninen
Konowa (1):
Reinoe

Antihero (1):
chaoslord54
Boonskiies (1):
don_johnson


Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18


BipolarChemist wrote:

evilpacman18 (5):
Guyett
,
Misaka Network, reinoe,
Antihero, Konowa [L-2]
reinoe
(2):
Chevre
, Aneninen
Chevre (2):
Boonskiies,
don_johnson

Antihero (1):
chaoslord54

Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18, startfromtheheart



This makes me think EPM is town btw and was a counter wagon

BipolarChemist wrote:

evilpacman18 (4):
Guyett, reinoe,
Antihero, Konowa [L-3]
Chevre
(2):
Boonskiies,
don_johnson

Boonskiies (2):
Chevre
, startfromtheheart
reinoe
(1):
Aneninen
Antihero (1):
chaoslord54

Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18,
Misaka Network




BipolarChemist wrote:

Chevre
(5):
Boonskiies,
don_johnson,
Antihero,
Guyett, Misaka Network
[L-2]
evilpacman18 (2):
reinoe
, Konowa
Boonskiies (2):
Chevre
, startfromtheheart
reinoe
(2):
Aneninen, chaoslord54


Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18



BipolarChemist wrote:

Chevre
(6)
: Boonskiies,
don_johnson
, Antihero,
Guyett, Misaka Network,
Aneninen [L-1]
evilpacman18 (2):
reinoe
, Konowa
Boonskiies (2):
Chevre
, startfromtheheart
reinoe
(1):
chaoslord54


Not Voting:
BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18



BipolarChemist wrote:

Chevre
(7):
Boonskiies,
don_johnson, Misaka Network,
Aneninen, chaoslord54, Konowa,
Guyett
[Lynch]

Boonskiies (2):
Chevre
, startfromtheheart
chaoslord54 (1):
reinoe



Not Voting
: BroodKingEXE, evilpacman18



BipolarChemist wrote:
Aneninen (3):
Antihero,
Misaka Network, Guyett

chaoslord54 (2):
startfromtheheart, BroodKingEXE
Antihero (1):
Aneninen

Not Voting
: Boonskiies, chaoslord54, evilpacman18,
don_johnson
, Konowa


BipolarChemist wrote:

Aneninen (3):
Misaka Network, Guyett,
BroodKingEXE
chaoslord54 (1):
Konowa
Antihero (1):
Aneninen

Not Voting
: Boonskiies, chaoslord54, evilpacman18,
don_johnson
, startfromtheheart, antihero


BipolarChemist wrote:

Antihero (4):
Aneninen,
don_johnson, Misaka Network,
Antihero
Aneninen (1):
BroodKingEXE
evilpacman18 (1):
chaoslord54
Misaka Network
(1):
Guyett


Not Voting
: Cheery Dog, evilpacman18, startfromtheheart, Konowa


BipolarChemist wrote:
Misaka Network
(5):
Guyett
, startfromtheheart, evilpacman18, chaosloard54,
Misaka Network
[L-1]
Antihero (2):
don_johnson
, Antihero
Aneninen (1):
BroodKingEXE
BroodKingEXE (1):
Konowa

Not Voting
: Cheery Dog, Aneninen


BipolarChemist wrote:

Misaka Network
(5):
Guyett
, startfromtheheart, evilpacman18, chaosloard54,
don_johnson
[L-1]
Antihero (1):
Antihero
Aneninen (1):
BroodKingEXE
BroodKingEXE (1):
Konowa

Not Voting
: Cheery Dog, Aneninen,
Misaka Network




BipolarChemist wrote:

Misaka Network
(6):
Guyett
, startfromtheheart, evilpacman18, chaosloard54,
don_johnson
, Antihero [Lynch!]
Aneninen (1):
BroodKingEXE
BroodKingEXE (1):
Konowa

Not Voting
: Cheery Dog, Aneninen,
Misaka Network



Anti I'm getting seriously bad feelings about you now :/
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:14 am

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Konowa wrote:Scum must be underpowered and miller, me, was added for negative utility, balance. I'm pretty bad at setup stuff so I don't know.
Chaos, don't claim results just yet, especially if you have any positive results.

I want to relook over the Chevre wagon again. I have to be missing something.


It's negative results. Should I still wait to post results?
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:16 am

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Actually I'm going to post results just because I feel that it can very much affect how today goes.

So I tracked Aneninan and I got that he visited No one

Which is starting to really make me question Anti who has been trying to run everyone against Aneninan most of this game :igmeou:
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:18 am

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Konowa wrote:Scum must be underpowered and miller, me, was added for negative utility, balance. I'm pretty bad at setup stuff so I don't know.
Chaos, don't claim results just yet, especially if you have any positive results.

I want to relook over the Chevre wagon again. I have to be missing something.



You're only negative utility if there's a cop... That would mean there's jailkeeper, tracker, cop and miller.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:27 am

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It's still negative utility even without the cop, but that's getting too far into my own personal theory on the matter.

There's something about post #980 that is bothering me that I can't quite articulate right now. It just feels too setupish, is the best I can explain for right now.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:30 am

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Like, I feel that with the flip of dj being a jk towntrackerchaos would take into the account the possibility that dj jk'ed Aneninan last night and the fact that he didn't visit anyone also doesn't take into the account that there are likely two scum left sooo?

It just feels like something that was setup overnight. It's too manipulative.
Does that make sense to anyone else or am I just getting paranoid over him still being alive?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:55 am

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@Guyett
: I don't really understand what did you want to prove with that vote analysis. However, I think I found something strange. The Chevre wagon was originally started by Startfromtheheart (Bert), he left it for Reinoe in , rejoined it in , left it in ... and never joined it again.

@Startfromtheheart
: It's about the thing I've mentioned above
plus
the fact that you keep reposting your random table from the very start of the game. Plus, your recent vote for me without providing any content. I think you owe us an explanation.

@Konowa
: I don't think Don jk'ed me last night; as far as I can remember I wasn't on his scum-list.


@Everyone
: It's strange that neither Konowa nor Chaos got nightkilled. Either one of them (or both of them?) are lying or it's a pure WIFOM produced by the scums and they want us to lynch them sooner or later.
However, the tracking of Chaos is correct: I didn't visit anyone last night. So, noone shall be surprised by this claim: I'm a Vanilla Townie.

Just one more thing about Chaos which might confirm that he's telling the truth. If he
were
a scum, providing a fake-tracking about me would be risky: if I
had
a role with a targetting ability I would know instantly that he's lying!

Also, something about Don_Johnson. I've tried finding a softclaim by ISO-ing his posts. If he had softclaimed he should have used the letter
J
, which is really rare in English. It has been easy to check all the J's in his posts but, I have found NOTHING which might have been a softclaim.
This means... (1) either the scums were dumb and lucky by Nightkilling them (2) or
they must have a rolecop
! If (2) is true, that may explain why Konowa and Chaos are still alive.

I know that I'm not the smartest player on this forum but I hope that at least the latest bit helps.
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:02 am

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anen (sp?) Mafia trackers exist.....result accuracy tells nothing

Table was a joke because of how much I lose interest in mini normals, but ironically it's 4/4 thus far!!

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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:03 am

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Jailkeeper probably counters a mafia roleblocker

So the fact that chaos got results is damning
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:25 am

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chaos, why did you track Anen?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
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and not the world about them?
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:06 pm

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Konowa wrote:chaos, why did you track Anen?


I tracked Anen because of the whole back and forth between him and Anti in D-1 and a little in D-2. He also seemed to be one of the people that was under most people's suspicions so I was hoping by tracking him maybe it could lead to the idea of pushing forward with lynching him through being scum or to maybe help support the Anti is scum wagon by proving that Anen is town. I felt either way it gave us someone a little more solid to lynch.

On another note, has anyone looked at maybe who might have been getting worried over Don_Johnson/ who he was targeting? Maybe it could help lead to finding who's left on the scum team.
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:23 pm

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This whole hedging isn't helping my paranoia any.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
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and not the world about them?
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:24 pm

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Fuck it.
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:29 pm

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Konowa wrote:Fuck it.
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So you're voting me just because I'm making you feel a little anxious? :roll:
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:30 pm

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Well for now I'm going to vote off of my assessment which is that if Aneninen is clear from me tracking him then that points in my book towards the idea that Anti is scum so

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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:32 pm

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Anen is not clear because of your track...
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:51 pm

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startfromtheheart wrote:Anen is not clear because of your track...


Why is he not?
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:52 pm

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prob 2 scum left.... just because he didn't submit the kill doesn't mean he cant be scum
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:57 pm

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Guyett wrote:prob 2 scum left.... just because he didn't submit the kill doesn't mean he cant be scum

Oh good point..Sorry this is my first time playing Tracker so did not think about that. :oops:
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:57 pm

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Well then I will remove my vote

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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:58 pm

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So what about my theory of trying to see who was most threatened by Don_Johnson? Or do you think that's what scum wants us to do?
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:00 pm

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Down the scumWIFOM rabbit hole you'll be going. He could have been killed for any number of reasons imo, I prefer not to think too much into NK analysis. VC analysis is better imo
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