Newbie 1515: Old-Timey Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Bins]

Boons/Thesp best scum team NA.

[Thesp]

Thesp, I thought you had a townread on Gottemer, why'd you cop him N1?

Good question. A couple of reasons - he had been getting some heat early (which I thought would continue later in the game), and I wanted a bit more backup on him. He also hadn't really put a lot out there, so it was partially a sanity check. I also figured he wouldn't be nightkilled, so I'd have an investigation that could stand until it came claim time.

[Boonskiies]

Bins/Brian, take a look at Honey's ISO please. Tell me what you see.

THE SCUM TEAM IS HONEY/THESP!!!

@Bins, if you are actually scum, I love you...like wow. I will not vote on Bins unless she epic slips up as of this point.

It makes sense completely for Honey to be scum also because you put me at L-1, and luckily she wasn't online to hammer.

@Brian - there can't be more than 1 VT left in this game, one of them is definite scum, along with Thesp.

[Boonskiies]

@Bins - This would make more sense to say to you actually...There is only one VT left....haha. If you are honestly VT, you should be super suspicious of Honey.

[Bins]

There can be if Brian and you are lying! Because the setup could be VT, Cop, Goon. Uuuugh.



Why does every theory make perfect sense. ;_;

and I'm town and I still hate you.

pEDIT - I am super suspicious of Honey. Unless

[Boonskiies]

Every theory I make makes sense is because I am 100% right with them. The fact that I lied Day 2 is the only hurdle I have to get across, BUT I wouldn't have been able to figure out the scum team if I hadn't. Bins...trust in me, and I'll win us this game.

[Thesp]

You know Boonskiies, if I didn't have a role which directly claims that you aren't the cop, I

might

be willing to believe that you were the cop who claimed a tracker on D1, except I cannot fathom that a cop would ever, ever, ever, fake a guilty on someone to get them lynched, and not expect to be lynched for it themselves. I still cannot imagine why you would seriously put yourself at risk like that. It makes no sense whatsoever. There's no reason scum should be allowed to get away with that.

[Thesp]

pEDIT - I am super suspicious of Honey. Unless

I agree that Honey Bee is probably the last scum. I'm inclined to believe Brian Skies at this juncture.

[Bins]

You know Boonskiies, if I didn't have a role which directly claims that you aren't the cop, I

might

be willing to believe that you were the cop who claimed a tracker on D1, except I cannot fathom that a cop would ever, ever, ever, fake a guilty on someone to get them lynched, and not expect to be lynched for it themselves. I still cannot imagine why you would seriously put yourself at risk like that. It makes no sense whatsoever. There's no reason scum should be allowed to get away with that.

This is my problem.

[Boonskiies]

You know Boonskiies, if I didn't have a role which directly claims that you aren't the cop, I

might

be willing to believe that you were the cop who claimed a tracker on D1, except I cannot fathom that a cop would ever, ever, ever, fake a guilty on someone to get them lynched, and not expect to be lynched for it themselves. I still cannot imagine why you would seriously put yourself at risk like that. It makes no sense whatsoever. There's no reason scum should be allowed to get away with that.

@Bins/Brian - Can you guys read this. Like really really read this. He might be willing to believe me...I'm cop. He's claimed cop. And he might be willing to believe me. He can't fathom a cop faking a guilty on someone, and that's why he thinks I should be lynched. Guys...

[Boonskiies]

@Bins - he is lying and taking advantage of me previously being town and lying.

[Bins]

These are the possibilities:

Honey/Thesp - Boon's isn't lying. Therefore, Brian is doctor. Thesp is lying. Honey is the partner. (setup 2)

Honey/Boon - Thesp isn't lying. And Brian is doctor. (setup 2)

Brian/Boon - Thesp isn't lying. Brian isn't doctor. (setup B)

Brian/Thesp - Not possible because then we don't have a doctor.

Honey/Brian - No... cause either Thesp or Boon is scum.

anything with Bins.


I don't know what to do.

[Boonskiies]

Can you explain why I wasn't counterclaimed yesterDay with that Cop claim from Thesp and then cause me to get lynched yesterDay instead of a townie?

Explain how he had to wait until after I claimed cop.

[Bins]

I'm much more suspicious of Honey rather than other people. Can we lynch her instead? zzz.



Thesp didn't have any results, he probably wanted to hit something.
God, I don't know, Boon. I wish you hadn't of lied.

[Brian Skies]

Why does every theory make perfect sense. ;_;

Because every theory that's been thrown is perfectly viable.

I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong with my Honeybee read.

Thesp, I thought you had a townread on Gottemer, why'd you cop him N1?

Good question. A couple of reasons - he had been getting some heat early (which I thought would continue later in the game), and I wanted a bit more backup on him. He also hadn't really put a lot out there, so it was partially a sanity check. I also figured he wouldn't be nightkilled, so I'd have an investigation that could stand until it came claim time.

It makes some sense. But why not check one of your scumreads, though?

BoroPhil, Boonskiies, and Jake from State Farm are in the "want to face murder" pile.

^?

[Bins]

I've been cop before. Sanity checks are nice.

[Brian Skies]

I've never been cop before. I've been tracker before. I got roleblocked by town the same night mafia hit their bulletproof traitor. There were NO FUZZY FEELINGS involved with that speedlynch.

[Boonskiies]

@Brian and his question on Thesp's scum reads, who evidently...ARE ALL TOWN!!!!

And Bins, you wanting to get away from the Thesp and on to Honey is a scum tell. Might want to ssh on that for now.

[Boonskiies]

Also, might as well:
VOTE: Boonskiies

I know for certain, and I had no doubts in voting Thesp because I know I'm the actual cop. Why did he have a 'might as well' if he wasn't certain. If he was cop, I obviously would be scum, wouldn't I? It's not the same as yesterDay, because this time I really can't be lying about my town role.

[Bins]

The more I believe Brian, the more I'm going to want to vote Honey.

I'm really getting there. But I want her to be here.

[Boonskiies]

@Brian - if we hit the Role Blocker tonight, you HAVE to protect me toNight. You're definitely going to die in the night, so it's our last chance at town win. Which is why I believe Thesp/Myself should be the only ones up for lynch tonight. You need to have the cop situation cleared up.

[Boonskiies]

We need to settle the cop situation toDay. If Thesp flips Role Blocker, and Brian protects me toNight, we win.

[Bins]

Boon just sounds more genuine than Thesp, wahh.

[Boonskiies]

I told you, I clown around, and then I get my reads, right Bins? Well, look at me now. I have my reads. I will not vote anyone, but Thesp this game, so a honey bee lynch is out of the question because Thesp isn't going to change his vote to her. He's smart. Changing his vote would show scum on his part, even if she was his scum buddy.

[Honey bee]

Thesp, Brian and me all posted while bins was voting boon none of us can be scum together due to no quick hammer.

It's either that thesp is scum with bins or boonskiies is scum with bins, brian, or me.

and my bet is on Boon/brian.

First of all the thing that doesn't make sense is why in the world would boonskiies claim tracker. Scum don't benefit either way from doubting or following a fake town claim, as long as the lynch isn't on themselves, so I can't even conceive there would be use in a fake claim gambit. And he claims that backing down would result in his own lynch. What would he have expected when he claimed a guilty on someone? When you claim a guilty, you have to either lynch the accused or the accuser, so jake or boons death was inevitable.

Bins, Brian, and I all doubted it and brian literally asked you if you were gambiting, you had no excuse for letting that lynch go through, you had plenty of opportunities.

Not only that, but boonskiies supposedly knows that there's a doctor in this game. Why would you use that information to fakeclaim TRACKER out of all things. Claiming a cop when you are a cop on lylo would at least guarantee you surviving and possibly the winning investigation if all goes well. Claiming tracker would literally have gotten you no more benefit for a cop role and a wasted lynch day 2. What would even guarantee that you wouldn't be role blocked again if you were town, making your survival ultimately pointless?

And boonskiies reads on this day are completely forgetting his claim. post 548 and this:

PEdit: Brian is town as hell. The setup is M Role Blocker, M goon, Doc, Cop, Vt.

All had to be true anyways because you say you know which setup this is.. yet you act surprised. Hella fake.

Brian's read is just reading like planning ahead as boons partner because he says he believed I was town and now says I have a scummy connection with boonskiies. So if we do lynch boon and he turns scum, I'm guilty by association.

And before I vote, I need to hear why why brian thinks boon is scum bins and thinks thesp is scum. I already gave you my justification.

Yeah my activity has always been poor because I don't have much time for mafia. If anyone is uncomfortable with this I'll replace out, because the pace of this game has increased dramatically from day one and day two lasted only a day.