X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[Nero Cain]

EL OH EL

[Rogue]

Yeah but she's scumreading me based on that game....so I am explaining why she's wrong.

Venmar, do you have any scum suspects or thoughts that don't revolve around me.

I am not scum reading you based on that game. In fact I don't think I have ever opened that game besides a split second to ISO one player. (hint: wasn't you)

Oh...well can you ask Mala why she is scumreading me then? I would like to have a dialogue.

Most of my townreads are townreading me back. Mala does tend to scumread me regardless of alignment so I would like her to see the difference or express her case.

1. Your push on Venmar was bad. It felt fabricated.
2. Your town read on SKOT is wrong and bad.
3. Your last argument vs. MME looked pretty bad. Like town wouldn't have bothered stalling that out, but instead you did. It was absolutely dumb.

Just I don't see how you play right now is town. You are basically lashing out everyone who is scum reading you. I don't like it.

~Rogue

[Rogue]

To be fair I think I have issues with half this playerlist besides a select few.

~rogue

bb in like 20?

[Nero Cain]

What is your issue with me?

[Nero Cain]

Right but we narrowed yo a pool that was majority town

hello slip

[Nero Cain]

Nero, we were focusing on one neighborhood. Neighborhoods are majority town. Half the game didn't even care. He reinvigorated interest in the game.

nope, other then nerfing town objectives and giving scum a wider mislynch pool, the only other thing he did was derail the wagon on you. If his top scum reads were in the hoods we wanted to lynch from then it makes like no sense whatsowver for him to want to "talk" about other players. Again, if he had a strong scum read on a player he should have just plead his case. But still, his top 2 scumreads were in lynchable' hoods so...just WTF?

I don't think I'd be in favor of lynching ULF over you and Titus but your "hey look over there" defense I noted.

It wasn't a "hey, look over there," it was a "hey, Nero talked smack about this player slot, now that he's in the lynch I want to hear his thoughts." The whole point of me doing what I did was so that people would talk about the reads they haven't liked.

You seem very keen to avoid talking about anything but what has already been discussed.

ok....I've already talked about him ITT, this is how you knew about it unless you want to claim that you are scum and have a spy in my hood. I still think he's scum but I legit see no reason why you'd bring this up for seemingly no reason at all. If you want to talk about him then ok, we can do that. What would you like to know?

[Nero Cain]

Titus (5) - ika, My Milked Eek, Feu et Vol, Nero Cain, Venmar
Toogeloo (2) - borkjerfkin, Cloud Nine
Cloud Nine (2) - Toogeloo, SnowStorm

SnowStorm (2) - Rogue, Majiffy-dumb votes
RubikAshtray (1) - Clusk92-dumb vote
Speaker for the Dead (1) - Macaronis and Cheese-good vote but should move to toog or titus
My Milked Eek (1) - Sharpest-knife-on-tree-bad vote


Not Voting (4) - Ultimate Life Form, RubikAshtray, PeregrineV, Brian Skies-dumb votes

[Nero Cain]

Can someone remind me who it was that was pushing the idea of a scumless hood? (the not metalsoic one)

[Rogue]

Bork can you get your vote onto a snowstorm wagon or tell me and majiffy why it's a bad wagon

[Nero Cain]

its a bad wagon 'cause snow is town

[Rogue]

If you'd rather, we can wagon you for interjecting on townbloc business.

[Speaker for the Dead]

Can someone remind me who it was that was pushing the idea of a scumless hood? (the not metalsoic one)

remember this convo?

also can you explain the discrepancy where you said that you liked some1's idea of there being an all town neighbourhood but then later saying we shld lynch 1 inside each neighbourhood? cos there is not a clear flow of that particular progression

I changed my mind and then Titus told me that the scum was distributed randomly.

is macandcheese's vote srsly still on us?

[Rogue]

mollie how do you feel about snowstorm

[Titus]

its a bad wagon 'cause snow is town

There's something we agree on.

[Titus]

Right but we narrowed yo a pool that was majority town

hello slip

The setup says hoods are majority town...we narrowed to hood.

[Titus]

Yeah but she's scumreading me based on that game....so I am explaining why she's wrong.

Venmar, do you have any scum suspects or thoughts that don't revolve around me.

I am not scum reading you based on that game. In fact I don't think I have ever opened that game besides a split second to ISO one player. (hint: wasn't you)

Oh...well can you ask Mala why she is scumreading me then? I would like to have a dialogue.

Most of my townreads are townreading me back. Mala does tend to scumread me regardless of alignment so I would like her to see the difference or express her case.

1. Your push on Venmar was bad. It felt fabricated.
2. Your town read on SKOT is wrong and bad.
3. Your last argument vs. MME looked pretty bad. Like town wouldn't have bothered stalling that out, but instead you did. It was absolutely dumb.

Just I don't see how you play right now is town. You are basically lashing out everyone who is scum reading you. I don't like it.

~Rogue

1. Si lynching players who provide zero utility to town and provrnly help scum is bad? I will go after Venmars everytime.
2. How? Skot is a coordinated mislynch. I saw it.
3. So i have to unvote scumreads when they ask to be smart? I want to be dumb.

[Titus]

Still phone posting. Will explain snow when i can multiquote.

[SnowStorm]

Nero, we were focusing on one neighborhood. Neighborhoods are majority town. Half the game didn't even care. He reinvigorated interest in the game.

nope, other then nerfing town objectives and

giving scum a wider mislynch pool

, [...]

Why do you keep saying that? We don't know how scum is divided among the hoods, but if we assume it is balanced (we have no way to know if it isn't), then the chances to mislynch increased with the chances to lynch scum, thus staying the same. So it's not like by expanding the lynch pool he was increasing our chance to mislynch.

[Speaker for the Dead]

mollie how do you feel about snowstorm

this is the only that bugs me:

I don't think judging players by their flavor claims is a valid way to scumhunt.

cos he had just claimed jean grey in the pt when jean grey was a ghost in woverine's memory in apocalypse <--- not a character

but muffina thinks I am spending waaaaaaaaay too much time on flavour claims

do you really think macandcheese are town?

[Nero Cain]

If you'd rather, we can wagon you for interjecting on townbloc business.

tough. I don't really give two shits why you and mala think I'm not town but you two are so wrong, both about me and the majority of your reads. I'm town and my goal is to lynch scum, it think snow is town and very possibly a scum CW so I'm going to give my opinion.

Can someone remind me who it was that was pushing the idea of a scumless hood? (the not metalsoic one)

remember this convo?

also can you explain the discrepancy where you said that you liked some1's idea of there being an all town neighbourhood but then later saying we shld lynch 1 inside each neighbourhood? cos there is not a clear flow of that particular progression

I changed my mind and then Titus told me that the scum was distributed randomly.

ok and?

Right but we narrowed yo a pool that was majority town

hello slip

The setup says hoods are majority town...we narrowed to hood.

Stealing the conversation from Fue?....the entire game is majority town and he already felt like there was scum in the TWO hoods we wanted to lynch from so this whole "lets talk about other players" when he could have still TALKED about other players without nerfing objectives.

[SnowStorm]

What's the deal with the votes on me? Like where the hell did that came from?

pedit: Speaker, Jean Grey is a character in the AoA universe.

[Nero Cain]

Nero, we were focusing on one neighborhood. Neighborhoods are majority town. Half the game didn't even care. He reinvigorated interest in the game.

nope, other then nerfing town objectives and

giving scum a wider mislynch pool

, [...]

Why do you keep saying that? We don't know how scum is divided among the hoods, but if we assume it is balanced (we have no way to know if it isn't), then the chances to mislynch increased with the chances to lynch scum, thus staying the same. So it's not like by expanding the lynch pool he was increasing our chance to mislynch.

'cause its very likely to be true? Unless scum are bunched up in my hood and some other hood then Toog nerfing the objective of two hoods and opening up the lynch pool seems like it would only help scum.

[Rogue]

do you really think macandcheese are town?

I'm not really sure regarding them

I wouldn't kick and scream against a wagon on them, but I want to pursue Snowstorm.

I don't like how he automatically jumped to the defensive with just a few votes on him

[SnowStorm]

Quick version of my scum read on Titus will do long version later.

Titus is not pushing things well and is constantly just screaming I am Town listen to me. Not to mention their push on Venmar makes no sense what so ever to me. Lastly and majorly is their push on Marquis. They straight up refuse to listen to any sort of logic about why Marquis wouldn't troll. Trolling is normally anti-town imo but here it would be equivalent to out right just disrupting any of the town people from getting anything done especially towards the objectives. I have also only seen Marquis troll when in the Doduo hydra.(not sure what Meta Titus brought up earlier but I didn't look at it because it said Newbie and I discredit all Newbie games as Meta anything because Newbie games have a completely different feel and dynamic about them than any other games on the site) Then there is the fact that the game started out of thread in the neighborhoods so there was already a serious feel to it. Trolling would have just been asinine.

Titus is tunneling our slot but doesn't seem to mention us for people they want lynched for the day. They always mention Eek and Venmar. Not the people who they are screaming from high heavens is scum. When it comes to us they say: "When I flip town they will be obvious scum." If they were so convinced we are scum why not vote us?

Actually I am content with this post but if you want more let me know.

-Beast

You failed to explain how those points point towards her being scum. All I see is a big post explaining how Titus is not having an optimal town play.

"Titus is not pushing things well" - What does that mean? How is that a scum tell?
"is constantly just screaming I am Town listen to me" - Again, how is this a scum tell?
"their push on Venmar makes no sense what so ever" - Since when is making no sense a sign of scum?
What's all that about trolling?
And that last paragraph, what? You're arguing that Titus tunneling on you but not being convinced/not voting you is a scum tell? Why would she do that as scum? I mean, why would she tunnel on you as scum if she had no intention to mislynch you?

[Speaker for the Dead]

do you really think macandcheese are town?

I'm not really sure regarding them

I wouldn't kick and scream against a wagon on them, but I want to pursue Snowstorm.

I don't like how he automatically jumped to the defensive with just a few votes on him

but jumping to the defensive is not auto scum look at how we react in games

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