My 180 on Titus and feu.
What bork said is correct. I called feu town pregame and I've been calling titus scum for the bigger part of the day. And all of a sudden (if you're not me) I switched these reads.
Going to focus on my hood in this post by the way.
The setting:
First off. I claimed VT. Nothing more and nothing less.
Secondly, I never lied about my claim.
Thirdly, I implied being a supersaint/vengeful townie.
Fourthly, I never said I was a ss/vt. (pre-empting the empty LaL arguments)
I expect getting a lot of flak for this and people using the easy argument of LaL (never really lied, but I still expect it), but do note that I started the plan when I was on the chopping block. In my mind I was going to get lynched no matter what. I figured that if I was going to die, I could try to get some reactions from my hood. I never wanted to derail my wagon as I thought that me being sandwiched would get us the sensor. Titus' arguments don't make sense as I really was prepared to die. It's not until after bork set things right that I changed my mind on this subject.
During the argument and some time after I thought Titus was scum. I mean, not willing to hammer your scumread because his alleged scumpartner would unvote is fucking silly and the refusal felt as scummy at the time. I was not alone in this. One thing was bothering me though, the fact that she didn't use the supersaint/vt implication as a defense. I'm not sure what to make of that just yet as I don't know that she felt the implication at the time or not (if you could answer this titus, thanks!).
It's not until one of the resurgences of our argument that I knew she was town. The moment was when she called my fucking bluff:
When she posted this, I know for sure she knew about the ss/vt implication (read the next post after the quote). Either she has huge balls as scum or she really thought I was scum. I'm betting it's the latter. This kind of aggression was the turning point for me and I started reading her as town, tunneling town, but town nonetheless. If I get lynched over this I'm happy that I cleared the titus suspicion. Seriously, I laughed when I read the quote. The balls. They were so prominent. Too prominent. Scum would not do this versus town. And especially not versus a town they think is a ss/vt.
I have to say I'm kind of surprised I'm the first one to mention this. Regardless of people knowing I'm not a ss/vt or not,
this is really alignment indicative
. I'm not sure why this got drowned out.With me almost knowing for sure Titus is town and me assuming scum in our neighborhood, I mean it's really too convenient that we were voted early game given our hood ability and our plans. So me knowing Titus is town, made me question my other reads: I thought they all were town. So I started to PoE on the other 3:
Bork
: nope. Not scum. He corrected me on the ability objectives. Would scum really do that? I mean, imagine borkscum and you're looking at eek-town directing his own wagon to lynch. He's even dictating the hammer order and from borkscum's pov he's going to ss/vt titus-town. No bork is not scum. Bork is town.So that leaves us with feu and brian.
The funny thing about
brian
is, is that he had a high activity pregame and then disappeared when the game started. I vaguely remembering calling him out on it in this thread, but it's shady as fuck. He mainly discussed game mechanics in our pt and placed the prediction. And then he vanished. The reason I'm not scumreading him is that I remember his posts being good in this thread. I made a memo of needing to read his iso to get a better grasp on him. And I should still get to that.Pre-emptively answering his follow up question: it's shady as fuck because the neighborhood private topics are also game topics. BUT very condensed. Very concise, to the point brief (unlike this post). I requested his presence several times and I know he's been reading that thread.
Feu
has been one of my town reads for a long time. He was there discussing the plan (I don't like how he wanted us to not claim the ability, but I payed it no attention back then), he's active in the pt, active in here. He shared my titus read. He's being tunneled by titus himself. It really felt we were in it together and aligning awesomely. The difference lies in how he handled the eek sandwich issue. He was adding fuel to the fire. His eagerness to have Titus hammer me could be sincere (given her being his scumread), but it feels forced. Do you know that tiny kid behind the playground bully? I feel that's feu. Especially now that I've "180"'ed on him and he's somewhat buddying bork in our pt.In essence, it's between brian and feu for me and brian has been posting good posts in this game while feu rubs me the wrong way during arguments in this thread and in the pt.
So there you have it, reasons to do the following while I'm going to UNVOTE: VOTE: Feu;
- vote me
-OR-
- vote feu
- not vote titus
- not vote bork
- do whatever you want to brian
Pick whatever you want, but people voting bork or titus should have very good reasons because they're practically conftown given their reactions to my wagon and actions.
tl:dr: read the fucking post, it contains more content than the past 20 pages
