Micro 366: Vengeball (Game Over)

[Espressojet]

I don't care to unvote, cuz I don't think we're gonna get a lynch for a while. If a townie gets lynched we're gonna need for that vengeful shot to not be a wild guess

[Rubicon]

So what do you guys think of EspressoJet saying "Good luck finding blue team"? Why do you think he picked blue team instead of red?

This post reads as a bit scummy to me. I didn't put any thought into which color I wrote, and it didn't even occur to me that it would matter. This feels like a stretch to out me as a Mafia, but at the same time distance yourself from the accusation by hiding it behind an open minded question.

There's a reason I phrased that as a question instead of an accusation.

On the other hand, you're not accusing me of being scum trying to mislynch you, which should be the obvious first thought of a townie. Instead you're accusing me of being scum trying to 'out you as mafia'. I think you're genuinely worried that this is the case, that I am on the opposing team and jumped onto your 'good luck catching blue team' as some sort of other-team tell.

VOTE: Espresso

[Espressojet]

I never said you were scum because I don't have a solid reason to think you're scum.

"Accuse me of being scum" "out me as mafia" are we really going to argue semantics here? It's easy to see my point that I'm making, and there's no reason to twist my words around.

[Boonskiies]

Rubicon, address you being at L-2 please.

[Boonskiies]

@eggspecial (espresso) - He overreacted a lot to your simple remark. Thoughts? And I agree we should stall the day out more. It is why I haven't placed a vote.

[phokdapolees]

Vote Count 1.02

Rubicon (3): Mr_Ree, ZZZX, BBmolla
Espressojet (2): Espressojet, Rubicon
Boonskiies (1): Drew-Sta
Mr_Ree (1): Bert
Bert (1): Honey bee

Not Voting: Boonskiies

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2014-08-04 23:00:00)

[Rubicon]

"Accuse me of being scum" "out me as mafia" are we really going to argue semantics here? It's easy to see my point that I'm making, and there's no reason to twist my words around.

Well yes, because those two sentences say different things and indicate a different POV.

Rubicon, address you being at L-2 please.

Molla's jump on the wagon was shit.

[Boonskiies]

Is it though? I mean, if you weren't at L-2, I was tempted to vote. So I don't know if it "was shit".

[Mr_Ree]

Poorly executed, not shit. Sort of opportunistic but made sense with the flow of conversation at the time. He should have voted when he proclaimed Rubicon as scum.

[Rubicon]

Is it though? I mean, if you weren't at L-2, I was tempted to vote. So I don't know if it "was shit".

Yup. If you had, it wouldn't have been shit because there's a clear thought process about me running through 29 -> 38 -> 40 -> 46. Molla opened the thread, saw some people suggesting I was scum and hopped on. Moreover I would expect him to know what I was doing -- moving us out of RVS. So yes, shit.

[Rubicon]

Poorly executed, not shit. Sort of opportunistic but made sense with the flow of conversation at the time. He should have voted when he proclaimed Rubicon as scum.

He shouldn't be voting based on the flow of other people's conversation. He should be voting based on his own thought process.

[Boonskiies]

Eh, it seems more like playstyle choice for me, not necessarily scummy. You definitely did bring us out of RVS, so that was something. I'm indifferent at the moment. Need more posts from other players.

@Honey Bee - Who are your suspicions?


PEdit: It's page 3, barely anyone has their own thought process at this time.

[Mr_Ree]

Who says he can't agree with others? I agree with me, it's not a far jump for me to think others would agree with me too.

P-edit: I'd like to think that I have my own thought process at all times...

[Boonskiies]

I worded that oddly. What I meant to say is that it's page 3 and a lot of us haven't processed our thoughts completely yet. We can't. Not enough evidence.

[Rubicon]

Yet you both somehow have managed to have votes and positions that follow from a clear thought process.

I'm not ruling out town!Molla. But that vote was shit.

[Boonskiies]

I haven't voted.

[Espressojet]

Sup...

And yay, another phokdapolees modded game. I enjoyed the last one.


VOTE: Drew-sta

we meet again...

I need to read the thread better. Ah damn it!!

VOTE: espresso

I haven't voted.

[Boonskiies]

I meant currently. I am registered as an unvote. Those were my RVS votes, and anyhoo, I unvoted.

[Drew-Sta]

Poorly executed, not shit. Sort of opportunistic but made sense with the flow of conversation at the time. He should have voted when he proclaimed Rubicon as scum.

Rubi is scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rubicon

Err, he did - within two posts. Seemed more like he realised after the fact he hadn't voted, then did.

Some interesting posts now I've worken up and all you lot have had a few things to say.

[Mr_Ree]

That's why I said poorly executed. If you proclaim someone as scum, normally you drop the vote right away, not as an afterthought. After all, they're scum right? Vote them the hell off the island!

[Espressojet]

Poorly executed, not shit. Sort of opportunistic but made sense with the flow of conversation at the time. He should have voted when he proclaimed Rubicon as scum.

Rubi is scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rubicon

Err, he did - within two posts.

Seemed more like he realised after the fact he hadn't voted, then did.

Some interesting posts now I've worken up and all you lot have had a few things to say.

That's why I said poorly executed. If you proclaim someone as scum,

normally you drop the vote right away, not as an afterthought.

After all, they're scum right? Vote them the hell off the island!

Are you dumb, or do you just not like to read the posts you reply to?

[Drew-Sta]

That's why I said poorly executed. If you proclaim someone as scum, normally you drop the vote right away, not as an afterthought. After all, they're scum right? Vote them the hell off the island!

Are you being deliberately dense or trying too hard to set Molla up?

[ZZZX]

With 2 scum teams I think the common scum hunting methods are not really 100% effective as both scum teams will have to actually to try scum hunt for scum so its actually easier to appear townie.

[ZZZX]

I actually got a weird idea.

Here is a question that might give us info

Who were the most people who pushed esp's post as scummy etc?

[ZZZX]

Yet you both somehow have managed to have votes and positions that follow from a clear thought process.

I'm not ruling out town!Molla. But that vote was shit.

This post reminds me of scum Rubi but I didnt meta you enough to be 100% sure.