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↑ Nero Cain wrote:
I am in totes disagreement here. I think Toog scum could easily go "yeah, I did something with no town benefit and actually harmed the town but...I just wanted to shake things up." I equally dislike the fact that he was trying to get me to switch my focus from him/titus and talk about ULF (even though I have been despite him claiming that I haven't.) and then him not following up on it.
I don't have any Toog meta so idk, but I still think his actions were too risky for scum and not worth the trouble. The only scenario where I could see it being more worthy is if scum were more likely to get lynched before, which could mean Titus-Scum or Eek-scum and I'm town reading both of them.
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I'm just really surprised that you're just super-oversimplifying the obvious WIFOM aspect of what you're talking about in 1116-1120, especially where there are supplemental things like 1121 that should be murking up the read for you and no real evidence that 'why he did it in the first place' is actually a thing that he cares about.
As far as your own question about what is the scum motivation: you can't deny that what he did had a tangible anti-town component and by definition creates potential scum motivation, even if obviously can't be proven one way or the other.
Well, sure, I don't think his actions were straight town tells; like you say there's a WIFOM aspect to it that leaves some room for doubt, that in itself is enough for me to not want to lynch him. Besides I thought the town scenario was more likely, so for the sake of keeping it simple and narrowing down suspects, I'm calling him town.- Rogue
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I want Nati to come back to the thread.
He had a similar(ish) meltdown in Tales of You but that contained both more 1) anger and 2) content than I've seen this game from him and I want to know why, considering his not being the leading wagon here.
Both heads are too busy blaming MY reads for ruining the game for them to post here!
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↑ borkjerfkin wrote:You're usually not this much of a fucking asshole and I'm really close to not wanting to play with you again.
holy fucking shit, stop whining
if you want to interpret stuff that isn't (a) directed at you or (b) insulting in any way as a personal insult, then fine
grats to you
i don't really give a shit"Sickness and healing are in every heart; death and deliverance in every hand.” orson scott card, speaker for the dead- Rogue
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↑ Nero Cain wrote:
The bolded was my point. But of the two hoods that were originally being targeted, its not like everyone was lynchable. As bork said, its WIFOU but I think there's plenty of scum motivation to add to a pool of potential mislynches. Also, the part out not following up wasn't about you, it was about Toog who basically tried to get me to shift my focus onto UFL and then never followed up on that.
So you think there are more scum in those two hoods than in the other two? And/or that the scum there were more likely to get lynched?- Speaker for the Dead
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get over it, you fucking whiner
you got antsy about me pointing out something that was fucking correct (that you were saying fuck everything else, get objectives, by pushing someone YOU THOUGHT WAS FUCKING TOWN FOR THE SAKE OF OBJECTIVES)
and now you're getting antsy about something that wasn't even directed at you
if you want me to actually be a dick to you, i can, and you'll know what me being a dick actually looks like.
fuck
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IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHERE THE SCUM ARE!
We had a list of 10 people that we were going to lynch from, atleast 6 of those 10 were town. Toog voting for two hoods adds ATLEAST 6 more town and therefore increases the scum mislynch pool. Jesus fucking Christ, now I almost want to lynch you for being as dense as all fuck.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What are your thoughts about me?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I have lots and lots of experience with muffin. I know exactly how he is.
I'm leaning town on Nero; I understand and sympathsize the desire of wanting to cull players that are doing blatantly anti-town things and calling people out for calling those things towntells, which has kind of been his MO the whole game.
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↑ borkjerfkin wrote:I have lots and lots of experience with muffin. I know exactly how he is.
I'm leaning town on Nero; I understand and sympathsize the desire of wanting to cull players that are doing blatantly anti-town things and calling people out for calling those things towntells, which has kind of been his MO the whole game.
Do you think he's scum?
Sorta. I just don get the best vibes from him and some of his reactions feel fake.
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So why aren't you engaging me or anything and just sniping at me from the sidelines?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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↑ Nero Cain wrote:IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHERE THE SCUM ARE!
We had a list of 10 people that we were going to lynch from, atleast 6 of those 10 were town. Toog voting for two hoods adds ATLEAST 6 more town and therefore increases the scum mislynch pool. Jesus fucking Christ, now I almost want to lynch you for being as dense as all fuck.
This doesn't seem like a wise decision, but I'm going to reply. SO. What if you see it from a different perspective? We had a list of 10 people that we were going to lynch from, at least 4 of those 10 were scum. Toog voting for two hoods adds at least 4 more scum and therefore increases the scum lynch pool. So, sure there are more town added to the mix of possible mislynches, but it's all in proportion with the scum added to the mix of possible successful lynches. SO the only way Toog's actions prejudice us is if there are more scum in those two first hoods, which we don't know.- Titus
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You try working a fourty hour work week, moving into a new home and playing a game where no one listens. Add in others who are paid and elected not to listen to you... yeah I got issues I vent sometimes.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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↑ borkjerfkin wrote:Examples?
Sorry, got distracted. The dayvig response didn't give off the greatest vibes imo. His whole set of exchanges with Titus have been really queer. Plus this whole mess involving Toog just doesn't make sense and it feels like hes trying to go after something that isn't there.
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↑ Macaronis and Cheese wrote:His whole set of exchanges with Titus have been really queer.
On a surface level I didn't like this at first either, but I think he feels it would be pro-town to have Titus out of the game even if she flips town and I think the interactions make sense from that viewpoint.- Macaronis and Cheese
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↑ borkjerfkin wrote:↑ Macaronis and Cheese wrote:His whole set of exchanges with Titus have been really queer.
On a surface level I didn't like this at first either, but I think he feels it would be pro-town to have Titus out of the game even if she flips town and I think the interactions make sense from that viewpoint.
I can see that, but then he was asking us about lynching a town read, so idk.
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